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The Division Bell
The Division Bell is a political podcast brought to you by Mirror and Express. Hosted by Mirror political editor, Lizzy Buchan, and Express senior political correspondent, Christian Calgie, each episode features lively debate across political topics from insiders on both sides of the elective divide. Listen to new episodes of The Division Bell every Thursday on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and you can also watch the video version of the podcast on YouTube. Make sure you follow the show on Youtube at @TheDivisionBellPodcast and on TikTok at @mirrorpolitics. Join the debate using #TheDivisionBell...
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Episodes
Labour rebels, Afghan data leak and summer recess | The Division Bell 17.07.2025 25:58
In this week’s episode of The Division Bell, hosts Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie chat about the Labour rebels that have been suspended from the party, the super-injunction against journalists and what should each party do ahead of summer recess. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Macron state visit and tackling illegal immigration | The Division Bell 10.07.2025 27:38
Christian Calgie and Mikey Smith discuss French President’s three day state visit, Reform MP having the whip suspended, Rishi Sunak re-joining Goldman Sachs and Labour’s wealth tax plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
A look back at Keir Starmer’s first year in Government | The Division Bell 03.07.2025 28:37
The Division Bell’s Christian Calgie and Lizzy Buchan are joined by Keir Starmer’s former Political Director to discuss the Prime Minister’s first year in Government. Calgie and Buchan also talk about how Rachel Reeves’ tears move the markets and the fallout from the welfare bill U-turn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Will "Daddy" Trump's antics force UK to bolster it's military | The Division Bell 26.06.2025 36:27
Daily Express' Defence reporter Conor Wilson joins Christian Calgie and Lizzy Buchan as they discuss UK military, war in Russia and Ukraine and what the government needs to do to keep us safe. Lizzy and Christian also discuss the NATO summit where world leaders were showering praise on Trump and the G7 incident where Keir Starmer had to go on his knees to pick up the US - UK trade deal that Trump...
Will Labour’s U-turn on Winter Fuel be enough to defeat Reform? | The Division Bell 22.05.2025 36:04
Join Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie in the latest episode of The Division Bell as they analyse the EU-UK trade deal, discuss welfare cuts with Sumi Rabindrakumar, the Head of Policy at Trussell and look into the impact Keir Starmer’s U-turn on Winter Fuel payment has on pensioners. Insightful discussion and sharp analysis await as they unravel the political twists that are shaking up the electo...
Farage’s former spin doctor on the rise of Reform | The Division Bell 15.05.2025 34:17
Nigel Farage’s former spin doctor, Gawain Towler, appears as a guest on this week’s Division Bell alongside hosts Christian Calgie and Lizzy Buchan. They talk about the rise of Reform, whether Boris Johnson is a ‘hypocrite’ and Farage’s relationship with Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
UK and US announce trade deal | The Division Bell 08.05.2025 23:10
Join Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie in the latest episode of The Division Bell as they analyse the local elections results, the importance of VE day and the UK and US trade deal announced by Keir Starmer and Donald Trump. Insightful discussion and sharp analysis await as they unravel the political twists that are shaking up the electoral landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcas...
Local Election Special: “The Tories have a very long way to fall” 02.05.2025 28:35
The rise of Reform or the end of the Tories? This week’s local elections will set the tone political tone for the nation but is it Labour who should really be worried about Nigel Farage and co? As millions of people across England head to the polls, Tory peer Lord Hayward joins hosts Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie to dissect the tightest races and gives his predictions on who will emerge victor...
Are the Tories heading for local election disaster? 24.04.2025 28:45
Join Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie in the latest episode of The Division Bell as they dive into the upcoming local elections and the surge of Reform, potentially leaving the Tories in dismay. Insightful discussion and sharp analysis await as they unravel the political twists that are shaking up the electoral landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Will Trump tariffs cause global chaos? 03.04.2025 31:03
Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie are joined by Labour MP Mike Tapp for a new episode of The Division Bell. Following hot off the heels of Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ bonanza, we take a deeper look into the impact faced by the UK and nations around the world, whether Brexit is turning out to be a blessing, and get a Labour MP view on the government’s recent welfare cuts. Learn more about your ad choi...
Spring Statement Unpacked: What Lies Ahead? 27.03.2025 21:56
Is Rachel Reeves spiralling from a tough spot to an absolute nightmare? Is the UK's robust economy feeling the harsh sting of the chancellor’s self-imposed borrowing rules? How much will the government’s eye-watering welfare cuts actually save? Join Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie as they break down the key takeaways from the spring statement in the latest episode of The Division Bell. Learn mor...
Labour’s welfare cuts and the return to austerity 20.03.2025 29:59
Hot off the heels of Labour’s huge welfare cuts, Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie are back for a new episode of The Division Bell to discuss the potential impact of Liz Kendall’s recent benefits overhaul, and are later joined by broadcaster and inclusion campaigner Dr Shani Dhanda. Together, they delve into the challenges that lie ahead for thousands of people. Learn more about your ad choices. V...
Will Reform survive the Farage and Lowe Fallout? 13.03.2025 27:45
Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie sit down with Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp to talk Reform’s ongoing spat, immigration agendas and predictions for the upcoming local elections on a brand new episode of The Division Bell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Trump vs. Zelensky: The Clash That Shook Europe’s Political Landscape 07.03.2025 20:50
Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie return for an all new season of The Division Bell, recording from our brand new, purpose built studio at Mirror and Express HQ. In our first episode of 2025, Lizzy and Christian are joined by guest Mikey Smith to cover the shocking scenes at the Oval Office during Zelensky’s US visit, the fallout from the spat, UK conscription and the shifting political sands in E...
Looking back at a mammoth year of British politics and 2025 predictions 12.12.2024 37:44
Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie reflect on the biggest political stories of the year, look ahead to 2025 and talk Christmas party season in the final episode of The Division Bell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Labour's five missions, Starmer vs. Badenoch, and Reform's prospects 05.12.2024 33:47
Lizzy Buchan and Christian Calgie discuss Keir Starmer's soft-reboot with the launch of Labour's five missions, Kemi Badenoch's growing hostilities with the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, and the continued growth of Reform as a political force - all on the latest episode of The Division Bell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Labour's unpopularity and cabinet rifts surround the Assisted Dying Bill vote 28.11.2024 29:19
The Daily Mirror's political editor Lizzy Buchan returns to The Division Bell and is joined by Christian Calgie, Senior Political Correspondent at the Express, to discuss how Labour deals with growing unpopularity early into its new government, the significance of the impending Assisted Dying Bill vote, and the unlikely alliances driven by divided opinions on the bill. Learn more about your ad cho...
Remembering John Prescott, farming protests and British missiles in Ukraine 21.11.2024 36:04
Political editor of the Daily Express, Martyn Brown, and deputy political editor of the Daily Mirror, Mikey Smith, pay tribute to a giant of the Labour party, John Prescott, debate the farmer farmers' inheritance tax and protests, and look at the impact of British missiles in Ukraine - all in the latest episode of The Division Bell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoi...
The Assisted Dying Bill, US election trail and dissecting Trump's cabinet picks 14.11.2024 32:58
New political editor of the Daily Express, Martyn Brown, joins deputy political editor of the Daily Mirror, Mikey Smith, on the newest episode of The Division Bell to discuss the politics of the Assisted Dying Bill, Mikey's travels on the US election campaign trail, and the controversies surrounding Trump's picks for his new administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.co...
Trump's election win, new Tory leader, and Sam Lister on her political career 07.11.2024 42:50
Lizzy Buchan and Sam Lister analyse Trump's historic election win, what it means for NATO, and the UK. The Tories have elected Kemi Badenoch as their new leader who challenged Keir Starmer's previous comments on Trump. Sam Lister looks back on her career working as a political journalist at the heart of UK politics in Westminster. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoice...
The first female Budget, Treasury secrets and the interminable Tory leadership race 31.10.2024 38:30
The Division Bell hosts Sam Lister and Lizzy Buchan welcome former Tory aide Cameron Brown to discuss the first Labour Budget in 14 years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Early prisoner releases, Labour geeks, battle of the gingers and is Trump a fascist 24.10.2024 39:44
The Division Bell’s Sam Lister is joined by interim co-host Mikey Smith and political commentator Matthew Laza discuss the early prisoner releases, Labour geeks and whether Trump is fascist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Fat jabs, Autumn Budget and Taylor Swift's royal treatment by Labour 17.10.2024 41:46
Lizzy Buchan and Sam Lister discuss Labour’s plan to offer weight loss treatment for overweight unemployed people to help them get back to work. They also go discuss what we can expect in the Autumn Budget and the royal treatment that Taylor Swift received while in the UK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Cleverly ‘crashing out’ the leadership race, Winter Fuel protests and Labour’s Employment Rights Bill 10.10.2024 35:21
Sam Lister and Lizzy Buchan host the Division Bell podcast where they discuss the final two Tory leadership contestants and Labour’s new Employment Rights Bill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Conservative conference, Labour sleaze and the ‘cruel’ Winter Fuel cut 01.10.2024 39:05
The Division Bell’s Sam Lister and Lizzy Buchan talk about the Conservative conference in Birmingham, Labour sleaze and the party’s ‘cruel’ Winter Fuel cuts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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