The Defiant

The Defiant

The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

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The Defiant

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Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

"I'm Not an Enemy of DeFi; I Want People to Know About Anything That Goes Against DeFi as a Tool for Financial Liberty:" Chris Blec 26.07.2021

In this week’s episode, I interview Chris Blec , a researcher advocating for transparency in DeFi.  He was first drawn to cryptocurrencies through Bitcoin. He decided to go into crypto full time, first consulting with a token project in the ICO days, and later, in late 2019, by creating a YouTube channel where he aimed to educate users on how DeFi projects work under the hood. Here is where h...

“The Biggest, Clearest Bet of All is Ethereum:" Raoul Pal 19.07.2021

In this week’s episode I interview Raoul Pal , who retired from the hedge fund world at 36 years old and has run financial media company Real Vision for the seven years since. He predicted the housing bubble, he was early to call the devastating effect the pandemic would have on the economy, and now he gives us his thoughts on what he sees is coming up in the next few months. Raoul believes the se...

"It's Almost Like EIP-1559 Fixes an Economic Bug in Ethereum; More Usage Can Now Capture More Value:" Tim Beiko 12.07.2021

In this week’s episode we speak with Tim Beiko , who organizes the Ethereum core developers calls and knows all the intricacies and latest development of the world’s most active blockchain. We spoke right after Beiko had proposed a date for the implementation of one of the biggest changes expected to happen to the Ethereum blockchain in recent history EIP 1559. If you’re not 100% clear on what thi...

"V3 is Winding Back a Bit of the Uniswap Revolution; It's Going to be Very Influential:" Dan Robinson 02.07.2021

In this week’s episode we speak with Dan Robinson , a research partner at Paradigm , one of the most active VC funds in DeFi and crypto. One of the fund’s investments is Unsiwap, where Dan also had a central role in the design of v3, the latest version of DeFi’s most popular decentralized exchange. Dan talks about why Uniswap was so exciting as an investment, and about what drove the change to v3....

"There Will be Billion-Dollar Communities on the Internet:” Jess Sloss 25.06.2021

In this week’s episode we speak with Jess Sloss , the instigator of Seed Club , a DAO that builds and invests in community tokens. We talk about the emergence of the social token economy, and how that’s different from the creator economy or the gig economy; the difference is that social tokens and DAOs allow individuals to create wealth rather than create revenue.  They’re tools for creators,...

"VCs Typically Treat Community as an Afterthought; That's Wrong:" Soona Amhaz 18.06.2021

In this week’s episode, I speak with Soona Amhaz of Volt Capital. Soona saw the value of crypto from very close when her family lost most of their savings after Lebanon’s currency crashed. She immediately told them to move their money to Bitcoin to protect themselves against further currency devaluation and currency controls. She was working on a startup as an engineer while trying to learn about...

"Having Legal Tender in a Currency You Cannot Control Means You Cannot Print Problems Away:" Mariano Conti 11.06.2021

In this week’s episode I speak with Mariano Conti , the former head of smart contracts at MakerDAO. Mariano knows the value of having permissionless and uncensorable currencies first hand —he started earning in Bitcoin in 2014 in Argentina because pesos would instantly lose value and it was hard to get dollars. When he learned about Ethereum he went all in and started working at Makerdao before De...

"Everyone Can be Rich in Crypto; There are no Divine Rights:" Terry Crews 04.06.2021

In this week’s episode, I speak with Terry Crews, a legit star. He was a professional football player, has starred in multiple Hollywood films and currently leads in TV shows including America’s Got Talent. He is also a cryptocurrency enthusiast, minting his own social token called POWER. Terry has a very powerful story on how he got into crypto. It was at a design show in Milan. He wanted to supp...

"The Bull Market is Intact for the Next 10 to 20 Years; We are in a Secular Shift:" Arca's Jeff Dorman 28.05.2021

In this week’s episode, I interview Jeff Dorman, chief investment officer at Arca, an investment management firm focusing on digital assets. Jeff has been valuing assets for the past 20 years, from investment-grade bonds, to high-yield debt and equities, and now he’s doing the same for crypto. We talk about the recent selloff and he thinks the big crash is over but that doesn’t mean we’ve seen the...

"Blockchains are Adding Property Rights to the Internet:" Kayvon Tehranian 21.05.2021

In this week’s episode I interview Kayvon Tehranian , founder & CEO of Foundation , a platform for minting, buying and selling non-fungible tokens. We talked about the future of the internet —Kayvon believes blockchains are adding property rights to the internet. He also thinks that instead of having to wait for old institutions to come online, new ones in the form of decentralized autonomous...

"Ethereum is About Six Months Away from Proof-of-Stake:" Preston Van Loon 14.05.2021

In today’s episode , we interview Preston Van Loon . Preston co-founded Prysmatic Labs, one of the main teams building Ethereum 2.0, and has been leading that team for the past three years. On top of that, he recently founded a DeFi project which bundles the entire crypto market cap in one token to allow anyone to easily buy something like a crypto index. Preston talks about the latest in ETH2 &nb...

"Identity is The One Vulnerability Being Exploited Across All Systems. It’s the Mother of All Battles:" Santiago Siri 10.05.2021

In this week’s podcast we interview Santiago Siri , who has been working on improving the way democracy works for over a decade. He started from the inside, co-founding a political party in Argentina, his home country, but realized traditional politics would change him before he could change politics. So he started building better representation for the new world and founded Democracy Earth Founda...

"We Said Let's Start With Uniswap and See What We Can Unbundle:" Pranay Mohan of Hashflow 30.04.2021

In this week’s episode, we talk with Varun Kumar and Pranay Mohan from Hashflow , a new decentralized exchange that wants to unbundle Uniswap. What this means is, they want to keep the non-custodial side and the liquidity pools, but instead of finding prices with smart contacts and a formula, they use market makers applying their highly specialized strategies and algorithms behind the scenes. Anyo...

"We're Lifting Barriers For Outside Users; If You Allocate Capital in a Vacuum, It's Kind of Meaningless:" Terra's Do Kwon 16.04.2021

In this week’s episode, we interview Do Kwon , cofounder of the Terra ecosystem which includes a payments network, a stablecoin, a lending protocol and a synthetic assets platform. We talk about how he was able to achieve what most crypto companies can’t which is to get a broad non-crypto native user base. Terra’s Chai payments system, which uses the Terra stablecoin, has about 2.6M active users i...

"It's Not About Fighting for People Already in DeFi, But About Bringing More People In:" SushiSwap's 0xMaki 09.04.2021

In this week's episode we interview 0xMaki, an anonymous DeFi developer contributing to SushiSwap and Yearn Finance protocols. We talk about growing Sushi beyond its drama-filled beginnings as a fork of Uniswap, into a DEX that can hold its own as the second-most active trading platform in Ethereum DeFi. He goes into the main pieces that set SushiSwap apart with its margin trading and a soon-to-be...

"Collector DAOs Are Going to be a Game-Changer For The NFT Space:" pplpleasr 02.04.2021

In this week’s episode we talk with the DeFi artist of the moment. Pplpleasr got into DeFi drawn in by the crazy yields but really stayed when she resonated with the community  —the gaming-like, niche subculture of memes and internet-native humor. She started making videos for many DeFi teams, from Yeran to Pickle Finance. Her latest and best-known work though is the video she made for the hi...

"I Try to Tell People About DeFi; It Will Come Here and Completely Flatten You:" Jim Bianco 26.03.2021

Jim Bianco has decades of experience as a macro markets researcher. He's been leading his firm Bianco Research since 1990 and was at UBS and Lehman Brothers before that.  It was after installing MetaMask, and doing some yield farming and NFT investing, that he realized, DeFi is a new financial system, and it will replace the old one. And the reason is simple: it’s just better. He has carefull...

"People Are Seeing The Writing on The Wall; DEXs Will Rule Crypto:" dYdX's Antonio Juliano 19.03.2021

In this week’s episode we speak with Antonio Juliano, founder and CEO of dYdX , one of the biggest decentralized exchanges on Ethereum, focusing on derivatives. dYdX recently made news by being one of the first major DeFi projects to move to Layer 2 .  One of the main goals for his team this year will be to further decentralize dYdX, Juliano said, from the order book to the control of their s...

"I Don't Think We're in a Bubble. We Had a Bubble in ‘17; Now We're in a Movement:" Mike Novogratz 12.03.2021

In this week’s episode we speak with Mike Novogratz , the CEO of Galaxy Digital. He started his career at Goldman Sachs and then led a macro hedge fund at Fortress, which was shuttered in 2015. He then went all-in on crypto, in part thanks to convincing from his college roommate Joe Lubin, and founded Galaxy Digital, an investment bank for digital assets. After grinding through the 2018 and 2019 b...

"We Were Idiots and We Were Poor; Then From Mid 2020 to Now, Suddenly, We're Right: " Ameen Soleimani 05.03.2021

In this week’s episode I interview Ameen Soleimani , one of the most prolific builders in Ethereum. He’s the CEO of SpankChain, a blockchain-based adult entertainment platform, the co-creator of MolochDAO, a DAO to fund Ethereum projects, and the co-founder of Reflexer Labs, which created RAI, a purely ether-backed stablecoin . We talk about the need of a purely ETH -backed stablecoin, and how RAI...

"We Haven't Seen Anything Yet, So Hold Your Long-Term Bag:" Qiao Wang 19.02.2021

In this week’s podcast episode, we speak with long-time crypto investor Qiao Wang . Wang is a partner at the DeFi Alliance and former head of product at Messari. Unlike many Bitcoiners who get into crypto because of their ideological views, or Ethereans attracted by the possibility of building decentralized apps, Wang had been a quant trader for 10 years when he first learned about Bitcoin, and it...

Mark Cuban: "ETH Has an Advantage Over BTC as a Store of Value" 12.02.2021

In this week’s episode, we speak with Mark Cuban , Dallas Mavericks owner, billionaire investor and Shark Tank star. It’s been hard to pin down if Cuban is a crypto skeptic or believer. He has questioned the value of bitcoin and called its price surges a bubble, but he has also accepted crypto payments for his basketball team, and tweeted about using Aave and selling NFTs. You’ll have no doubt aft...

"For the First Time, You Can Buy a Piece of the Art, and a Piece of the Gallery:" MetaKovan 06.02.2021

In this week’s podcast episode we interview MetaKovan, the pseudonymous investor who holds the largest known NFT collection in his Metapruse fund, which he leads with his (also pseudonymous partner) Twobadour. MetaKovan made waves in the surging NFT space after buying all 20 pieces of the Beeple collection at auction for $2.5M. In this interview, we dive into how exactly he managed to get his hand...

Crypto Devs Are "Building a Life Raft For The World After Fiat Falls Apart:" Erik Voorhees 29.01.2021

In today’s episode, I speak with Erik Voorhees , long-time crypto advocate and founder and CEO of ShapeShift . In this interview, he talks about how he was able to stop gathering information about his customers and take the exchange back to its roots, by leaning into DeFi. His plan is to create a platform that connects with all of the different DeFi applications, starting with decentralized exchan...

"I'm Imagining a World Where Every Song Has an Investable Layer:" DJ 3LAU 15.01.2021

Justin Blau , better known as 3LAU, is a DJ who frequently plays at all the major festivals, he produces his own successful tracks, as well as remixes for pop stars like Rihanna and Katy Perry. He became interested in blockchain technology because it can provide a means for fans to provably to own and digital content and for artists to better monetize their work. He believes this innovation has th...

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