Ian Lugg
The Defiance and Obedience Podcast
Welcome to the Defiance and Obedience Podcast (formerly The Contraratics). We are seeking to build strong men in the home AND public square. Each episode packs another dose of constructive contrarianism, curious musings and fatherhood direction. We realize that fathers and husbands need to lead in their home before they can be anyone of repute outside the home, starting with ourselves. Follow along.
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Ian Lugg
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Living in Freedom, not in Fear - Episode 33 with Brian Ronk 26.02.2020 1:22:06
Covering a broad range of topics including politics and 2A rights, we attempt to pull back from the zoo that we see on CNN and ask how we should live in light of an unknown future and the perennial cries of looming doom. Beer - Astoria IPA - Collaboration of local Astoria, OR breweries The Terry Porter - Porter from Gilgamesh Brewing Whiskey - Triple Barrel Blended Whiskey from Woodinville Whisk...
Tattoos or No? 04.02.2020 1:09:37
Taylor Rothenberger joins the podcast to talk tattoos and everything else contrarian. Not only do we have Taylor but also some hot tattoo talk.
Josh's New Years Resolutions 14.01.2020 48:37
Curious what this gun-loving redneck could resolve for the new year? Listen to satisfy your curiosity. Beer: 2019 Abyss Reserve from Deschutes Brewery
Grace. Love. Beer. - 5 Rights Brewing - Episode 30 18.11.2019 1:04:36
Be sure to tune into this interview with owner and head brewer RJ Whitlow of 5 Rights Brewing in Marysville, WA. We might get into the weeds of tasting notes and the brewing process but we also zoom out to the big picture and their "why" for brewing and serving people. Stick around till the end!
Bye to Beto, Mormons in Mexico, and Kuyperianism in Action - Episode 29 07.11.2019 58:37
Released 11/7/19 - After much too much time since our last episode we launch back into politicians that you may or may not have heard about, a beer that even Josh can taste, and how Christ's Lordship impacts all aspects of our life. Next episode will be a much anticipated one with the owner and brewmaster of 5 Rights Brewing of Marysville. We are stoked! Beer: Underground Mountain by Founders Brew...
Tumor Talk, Blurred Vision, and Ammo Economics - Episode 28 26.09.2019 51:08
We are back after a little longer-than-usual intermission between episodes as Josh recovers from surgery to remove a tumor on his pituitary gland. We talk about the difficulties of going through life-threatening operations as a father and provider and then wander off into discussing recent moves in the retail space by gun and ammo providers. Glad to be back at it! WBP2 by Skookum Brewery Twitter +...
The Contrarian OG Stops By - Episode 27 23.08.2019 1:31:38
This week we are honored to have Dave Light in-studio to give us his colorful background story and give some food for thought on anything that we throw at him. You won't want to miss this episode so please bear with the long form on this one! Beers: Waldos' Special Ale by Lagunitas Brewing Company Trip in the Woods - Barrel-Aged Bigfoot Ale by Sierra Nevada Brewing Look us up on the Gram and Twitt...
A Beer From Oregon And Gun Laws from Hell 09.08.2019 48:05
In this episode we start out by waxing eloquent about the beer we're drinking and Ian's recent trip to Oregon and then jump into conversation about increased gun laws in Washington state and why politicians don't have the answer. Beer - Cinnamon Maple Stout by Pfriem Family Brewers Look us up on Instagram and Twitter!
Lean in to What Matters 22.07.2019 43:16
In this episode we intentionally ignore some news topics that are vying for our attention via social media and otherwise and instead talk about how we personally are leaning into the things that matter in life. Ironically, we talk about how it all matters. Beer (unknown origin, ABV, or style) Twitter: @contraratics Insta: @the_contraratics_podcast
Mike Tython, Ignoring Gun Laws, and Selling Out 05.06.2019 53:56
We are back with another attempt to weld defiance and obedience into one inseparable whole. While Mike Tyson memes might make us burst with laughter, gun laws of late tend to incite us with rage and gnashing of teeth. We close with a conversation about companies who sell to other companies - good or bad or neither?
Let the Beer Be Heavy and the Babies Live 22.05.2019 47:05
We start the episode with a beer that has a gravity unlike we've experienced before. We then launch into how to challenge the status quo of killing babies and how do so in a winsome way. Enjoy. Molotov Heavy by Eviltwin Brewing
Droppin' Bullets Like It's Hot - Episode 21 07.05.2019 1:03:41
In this episode we discuss a few news items that relate to gun rights though one in particular in the far-off state of Massachusetts, as well as a gun-wielding terrorist in New Zealand. We also talk about how to make a good decision on an every-day-carry gun and talk other EDC geek stuff. Dragon's Milk - Bourbon Barrel-Aged Stout by New Holland Brewing Company
Female Body Slams, Insane Politicians, and Pot Virgins 25.04.2019 49:06
After a long winter's nap the Contraratics are back in the saddle with a baby to show for it. We warm up with some hot WWE talk and why boys and girls should be raised according to the created order. We then dive into some other hot topics that are floating through our culture like the smoke off a joint. Stone Brewing's Enjoy by 4.20.19 IPA Twitter: @contraratics Instagram: @the_contraratics_podca...
Gun Nerdery, Bad Beers, And Socialism is AWESOME - Episode 19 04.03.2019 1:22:21
For our listeners that don't enjoy the beers and the guns, don't listen to the first 40 minutes because we have a jolly good rambling about things of that nature. In the latter portion we talk about about some current political/economic ideas that are drifting through our country like a bad fart in a room. Beers: Raison D'extra by Dogfish Head Coming Out Party by Breakside/Comrade Intervention IPA...
It's Worse than We Thought - Episode 17 PART 2 11.02.2019 1:00:45
We grossly mis-report the details of the late-term abortion law that was passed in New York a few weeks ago - it's actually way worse than we thought. We also chat about the now-old-news interaction between a Catholic boy and drum-beating "veteran". Honey Shine by Bad Dog Distillers Bourbon Barrel Aged Dark Star by Fremont Brewing Twitter: @contraratics Instagram: @the_contraratics_podcast
Conceal Your Carry And Use The Other Door - Episode 17 PART ONE 28.01.2019 47:45
We rather enjoyed each other's company in our sawdusty/tool-filled recording setting for this two-part episode. In this first half we explore some of the implications of having a not-so-concealed carry and other things related to gun rights in Washington State. We then jump into a beer (Mod Pod by Fremont Brewing) that reminds us of no-frills tap rooms with great beer. Twitter: @contraratics Insta...
An Extra White Beer, A Racist Wall, and All the Guns - Episode 16 14.01.2019 1:17:19
We get back together in the new year and talk about what's going on in our lives and our crazy culture. We are thankful for our listeners and look forward to a new year of contrarianism! Beers: Founders Brewing Curmudgeon's Better Half OMMEGANG Brewery's Game of Thrones Series, Winter is Here Double White Ale Twitter: @contraratics Instagram: @the_contraratics_podcast
This Is My Fight Song PART 2 with Brian Ronk - Episode 15 03.12.2018 42:36
We are joined by Brian Ronk for the second half of our cabin discussion. We dive into why we should equip our children to fight with song.
Voting Like Your Rights Depend On It (Or Not) with Brian Ronk - Episode 14 - PART 1 13.11.2018 1:18:27
Brian Ronk joins us again for a late night, backwoods cabin session that explores the consequences of voting, bad lawmaking, and raising men with no drive. Of course there are a few rabbit trails, most of which relate to the topic at hand, and several good brews (according to some). Scary Joy by Skookum Brewery 2018 Barren Wood by Skookum Brewery Oakspire Bourbon Barrel Ale by New Belgium Brewing...
Military, Education, and Manhood with Brian Ronk PART 2 - Episode 13 22.10.2018 46:01
In the second part of our interview with Brian Ronk we continue with our discussion of military compensation which bleeds into a discussion of public education and why it isn't privatized. We also discuss when a boy should be considered a man. Combat Wombat by Rogue Ales - https://www.rogue.com/products/combat-wombat
Kavanaugh and Military Contrarianism with Brian Ronk PART 1 - Episode 12 08.10.2018 1:20:44
This week we bring back Brian Ronk to the podcast to discuss his experience in the military which leads into a broader discussion of military aggression, military discounts, and the privatization of education. Stick around for a bonus drop at the end. We drink: Woodinville Whiskey's Rye Stone Brewing's Anni-matter Double IPA Rogue Ales' Combat Wombat Sour NE-style IPA
People Are Bad, Guns Are A Tool, And Jesus Is A Contraratic - Episode 11 10.09.2018 1:13:44
On Episode 11, we discuss a recent shooting that hit the news a few weeks back which leads to a discussion of original sin, open carry, and what to do when businesses don't want any guns on site. Of course we review a couple brews and attempt a couple moments of hilarity. Enjoy! - Comatose IPA from GoodLife Brewing Company https://www.goodlifebrewing.com/comatose-imperial-ipa/ - Petrus Aged Pale...
Raising Men In a Confused Culture - Episode 10 27.08.2018 55:55
In this episode of The Contraratics we discuss raising boys in a culture that doesn't know the difference between men and women. What could possibly go wrong in that scenario?! Punkin Ale by Dogfish Head Tart Cherry by 6 Point Cider
Motivational Speakers, Gun Printing and Sharp Words - Episode 9 14.08.2018 1:12:45
This week we have Ian's brother, Nate on the pod to talk about some hot topics in our society as well as how Christians should relate to these ideas. There is much laughter throughout the whole recording but not without dose of sobriety and weight. Join us! We Drink: New Holland Brewing's Dragon Milk Stout Wingman Brewer's S'more's Porter Instagram @the_contraratics_podcast Twitter @contraratics
Laughter Warfare: Why Classical Christian Education Matters - Episode 8 16.07.2018 1:11:49
We are joined by Jonathan Sarr, headmaster of Evangel Classical School, to discuss Classical Christian Education. He also serves as a pastor of Trinity Evangel Church as well as a husband and father and maker of long bows (among a wide variety of interests). We are accompanied by Woodinville Whiskey's Port-Finished Whiskey and their flagship Rye. evangelcs.org trinityevangel.org woodinvillewh...
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