Chris Odell
The Datsusara Podcast
DATSUSARA 脱サラ is a Japanese phrase that essentially means "To escape drudgery and find one's true path". This concept of living a life of self determination is the primary focus of the show. Episodes will feature guests that are examples of living the Datsusara way. The show is hosted by Chris Odell who is the founder of a the modern hemp gear companies, Datsusara (DSgear.com), and Odell Sports & Leisure (OdellSports.com).
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Episodes
#41 Robb Wolf - Optimal Health Through Modern Science & Paleo Wisdom 06.02.2026 1:38:04
Chris has a fun and educational talk with ancestral health expert Robb Wolf. Robb is a former research biochemist, author of The Paleo Solution and Wired to Eat. In addition he co-founded the first and fourth CrossFit affiliates and co-founded the popular electrolyte drink LMNT. Topics discussed include: Supplementation, paleo diets, sleep nutrition, training and recovery tips for older athletes (...
#40 Roy Dean - Finding the Way Through BJJ 02.12.2025 1:42:45
Chris speaks with Jiu Jitsu black belt Roy Dean about everything from his early start earning black belts in the traditional martial arts of Judo, Aikikai Aikido, Seibukan Jujutsu and Enshin Itto Ryu Batto Jutsu, a Japanese sword system, all the way to achieving his 4th degree in BJJ under Roy Harris. They discuss martial arts in general, but mostly their shared passion for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, th...
#39 Rick Ellis - Older and Wiser Grappling 02.12.2025 1:17:25
Chris and jiu jitsu black belt Rick Ellis talk about his career path that led him to establish The Art of Skill website which produces engaging video content primarily for the BJJ community, his founding and hosting of the Old Grapplers Summit events for practitioners over 40, teaching jiu jitsu, the unique style of his teacher Roy Dean, and of great importance to Chris, who is 49 now, they also g...
#38 Jack Taufer - Jiu Jitsu Training, Teaching & Traveling 31.10.2025 1:50:17
Chris has an enlightening conversation with Jack Taufer, a Dave Kama Jiu Jitsu black belt. They talk about his beginnings in the art looking for a way to deal with street fights in Utah as a young man and then finding Jiu Jitsu which changed his life. They also discuss his time traveling and teaching the art to students all over the world. They also talk about the importance of Rickson Gracie teac...
#37 Ryan Young - Preservation & Transmission of Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu 24.09.2025 1:23:44
Chris has a conversation with 3rd degree black belt Ryan Young who runs Kama Jiu Jitsu's Dallas Texas location. Ryan has been training since 1989 under Relson Gracie in his home state of Hawaii. He talks about the early days of Jiu Jitsu in America and how he eventually met Rickson Gracie student and Dirty Dozen member Dave Kama. Chris and Ryan also talk about the preservation of Rickson Gracie li...
#36 Nathan Orchard - Pathologically Aggressive 01.09.2025 1:54:27
Chris catches up with Nathan Orchard, a 3rd degree BJJ black belt under Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet. They talk about his unorthodox beginnings as a self taught MMA fighter, and his move to focus on Jiu Jitsu in the 10th Planet system where he was promoted to blue belt status before ever taking a class. Later the conversation turns to philosophy not just on Jiu Jitsu but ancient wisdom practices and...
#35- Chris Burns - Fuck 'Em if They Can't Take a Choke 01.08.2025 1:47:51
Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique...
#34 - James Driskill - Rickson's Uke & Principal Learning 07.07.2025 1:52:09
Chris sits down with James Driskill, a Rickson Gracie black belt currently serving as Rickson's full time uke and assistant instructor. James has applied the principals of learning to many areas of life including regenerative agriculture, cannabis farming and many more topics covered in the discussion. Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red...
#33 - Josh McKinney - I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu 26.05.2025 1:06:50
Josh McKinney and Chris Odell have a fun talk about various topics revolving mostly around Josh's life journey from being a fat kid needing exercise to becoming a top level competitor, to founding his own gym. Josh is also the host of a podcast that Datsusara proudly sponsors called "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu". " where "each episode will help you suck just a little less at jiu-jitsu, or your money back"...
#32 - Akira the Don - Meaningwave 03.03.2025 1:22:23
Akira The Don talks with Chris about how and why he creates music that channels the great philosophy of the ages, finding meaning in life through dark times, Chris' return to the podcast and jiu jitsu. Akira the Don is an Artist, DJ, and architect of the Meaningwave® Universe. Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a spe...
#31 - Bob Kotowski - Olde School Golf 28.11.2018 1:32:36
Chris interviews his friend and golf instructor Bob Kotowski, a PGA professional. They discuss their love of the sport and how the lessons apply well beyond the golf course. An accomplished PGA golf instructor and personal coach to over 10,000 students, Bob Kotowski has over 50 years of hands-on, "dig it out of the dirt" golf history. Bob has a diverse and extensive golf and athletic background, a...
#30 - Oren Amitay - Calm the Mind and Face Your Fears 13.06.2018 1:35:44
Dr. Oren Amitay returns to the podcast to talk with Chris about psychological techniques for calming the mind in order to combat fear, anxiety and paralysis from over conscientiousness. Dr. Oren Amitay a psychologist trained in 8 different therapy orientations, a university lecturer and serves as an expert witness in the Ontario court system. He also has a podcast called "The Real Reality". Also o...
#29 - Lee Mellor - Murder, Free Speech, and Storytelling 01.05.2018 2:44:59
Lee Mellor is a author, criminologist and profiler specializing in abnormal homicide and sex crimes, lecturer, podcaster and singer-songwriter. In this episode Chris talks with Lee about his interesting choice of studying murder and why that is such a fascinating topic for people, free speech and the problems with modern cinema. Guest links: http://leemellor.com https://twitter.com/ProfMellor http...
#28 - Chris Odell - Ask Me Anything, April 2018 01.04.2018 1:07:48
The third in our "Ask Me Anything"(AMA) style episodes with Datsusara founder Chris Odell. Chris answers questions submitted and voted on via Reddit . Sponsored by Datsusara Twitter: @DatsuChris Facebook: Chris Datsusara Odell Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).
#27 - Antero Alli - Motivation for Creation 01.03.2018 1:24:11
Antero returns to the podcast to share his thoughts with Chris on topics ranging from meaningful occupations, to psychedelic exploration to transforming uncertainty into motivation for creation. Antero Alli comes from a deep background of writing, directing, and producing experimental theatre and numerous underground films. He is also the author of eight books including Angel Tech, The Eight-Circu...
#26 - Travis Newaza - Jiu Jitsu Philosophy and Brand Building 01.02.2018 1:24:47
Travis Newaza Warner is a well known and somewhat controversial and mysterious figure in the Jiu Jitsu community. He founded the company Newaza Apparel in order to fund his competitive Jiu Jitsu journey featuring matches and title wins at high profile competitions including Gracie Worlds , and Polaris . Chris talks with Travis about martial arts history, philosophy and it's application in brand b...
#25 - Oren Amitay - Psychology, Free Speech and Well Adjusted Children 01.01.2018 1:37:35
Dr. Oren Amitay a psychologist trained in 8 different therapy orientations, a university lecturer and serves as an expert witness in the Ontario court system. He also has a podcast called "The Real Reality". Chris and Oren discuss psychology, raising well adjusted children, PC/SJW extremist politics, social media, and psychedelics. Guest links: DocAmitay.com Oren's Youtube Oren's Twitter Ore...
#24 - Jonathan Pageau - The Symbolic Worldview 01.12.2017 1:45:44
Jonathan Pageau is an Eastern Orthodox religious icon carver by trade. Recently he has also been speaking on and making videos which explore the symbolic worldview. Chris talks with Jonathan about his personal Datsusara journey which led to his work as an icon carver and also his more recent endeavors exploring symbology in myth, religion, society and culture. Chris gets into his allergic response...
#23 - Clay Routledge - The Psychological Significance of Meaningful Lives 01.11.2017 1:28:14
Dr. Clay Routledge is an author, psychological scientist, and professor. His research focuses on the many ways that people gain and maintain perceptions of meaning in life and how these perceptions contribute to psychological wellbeing, physical health, and intergroup relations. Chris talks with Clay about how people find meaning in their lives, and the sometimes strange places that path can lead....
#22 - Jordan Peterson - Self Authoring & Truth 01.10.2017 55:19
Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and previously at Harvard. He has written multiple books and produced hundreds of lectures on topics of psychology, mythology, neuroscience, religion, war and in particular the works and philosophy of Jung, Freud, Piaget, Rogers, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Kierkegaard, and Heidegger. He has also been ve...
#21 - Nick Osipczak - Martial Arts Spirit 15.09.2017 56:53
Nick Osipczak is a British Mixed Martial Artist that has fought in the UFC and also starred on "The Ultimate Fighter" tv show. Nick brings a unique perspective to the arts as he comes from a Tai Chi background and has learned how to integrate that into his MMA practice. Nick also teaches the various MMA aspects, Tai Chi, meditation and much more. He also creates sacred geometry art pieces. Chris a...
#20 - Matt Thornton - Authenticity is Alive 01.09.2017 58:38
Matt Thornton is the founder of Straight Blast Gym International, an association of over 35 gyms worldwide engaged in training athletes in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing and mixed martial arts. Matt has also been applying many of his ideas to the discipline of philosophy, where he champions skepticism, rationality, and the scientific method. Matt speaks with Chris about the concepts of Aliveness in t...
#19 - Katy Bowman - Nutritious Movement Matters 01.08.2017 1:08:21
Katy Bowman is biomechanist, author and instructor who has focused her studies and teaching on the everyday movement patterns of human beings. Katy blends a scientific approach with straight talk solutions to healthy living via everyday lifestyle choices, rather than making personal health care something that happens on a schedule in isolated situations. In this podcast we get a genneral overvie...
#18 - Dr. Alex Feng - Born to the Path 01.07.2017 1:06:57
An accomplished healer, teacher, and martial artist, Dr. Feng, was literally born into a living philosophy. He provides a short introduction to Taoism, where he sees all practice and ritual having a foundation in gratitude. He also shares his own perspective and advice for people on the Datsusara path. Guest links: The Taoist Center Sponsored by Datsusara Twitter: @DatsuChris Facebook: Chris...
#17 - Richie Boogeyman Martinez - Rise of the Freak Brother 01.06.2017 1:02:38
Dancer, Fighter, Businessman. A 10th Planet Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt under Eddie Bravo, Richie discusses his personal Datsusara history, his present, and his future. Already an accomplished Break Dancer, Jiu-Jitsu and MMA were never his first choice. Stuck in an unhappy, unsatisfying, work situation, he, along with his brother, Geo, found escape through Jiu-Jitsu and a newly discovered passi...
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