The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro

Gary Kibel is AdTech old school.  He’s been in the privacy game for decades and has constantly stayed on top of changing tech, challenging regulation and new laws.  He does it all with a sense of humor, kindness and warmth that all of this friends and colleagues appreciate.  Video Killed the Radio Star is a classic 80s pop song that is a good mirror for Gary’s ability to adjust with...

Judy Estes has held a variety of roles in the legal leadership at Mastercard.  She is a leader of teams with a practical business-minded approach.  But, what really sets her apart is the ability to instantly see the bigger picture - her eye is always on the larger, more decisive business goals. She is also not shy with an opinion, joke or decision (at Andy’s expense).  She loves the...

For our convo with Heather Federman, we turn to one of the great voices of the 80s, Rod Stewart, and his classic, “Forever Young” . This song has become an American anthem emblematic of the youthful vigorous spirit of the country.  There is no more vigorous spirit in the privacy world than Heather.  She is a force of nature and is working on some of the most complex issues in data privac...

When you ask Shane Jacobs what his career goals are, he doesn’t say the normal things we hear so often.  Shane’s goal is for the human race to be multi-planetary.  Shane wants to see the world change via his work.  Data has played an increasingly important role in space suit development.  We will discuss biometric data and other data which inform innovation.  He may wear a...

PE’s anthem Fight the Power is more of a personal descriptor for our friend Anjali Dahiya.  If you are friends with her, you know that she does not shy away from anything and challenges old/antiquated ideas, actions of people/governments that defy sensibility and moral, ethical norms.  She is a fighter in all the best ways we need lawyers to be fighting for people.  Her career path...

Nobody puts Data in a corner We saw the writing on the wall There's no way we could disguise it secretly, data is everywhere Data, Just remember You're the one thing I can't get enough of But I've had the time of my life And I've searched through every open door Till I found the truth And I owe it all to you The GDPR was a watershed moment for global data privacy. Ashley Slavik who made her start...

We speak with Derek Zolner who leads legal at Centro after a stint at Oracle and many years in private practice.  We will discuss the shift from litigation to commercial legal work and on-house counseling.  Do litigators make good in-house lawyers and can they learn data and privacy?  In this case, YES.  We’ll also discuss Chicago as a town for in-house jobs, legal work and piz...

In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80’s music and no better song illustrates Danielle Sheer’s career than Queen’s “Under Pressure”.  Time after time, Danielle has undertaken complex, mountainous challenges under intense pressure and come out the other side successfully.  Her career defining moment may have been helping Carbonite IPO under massive pressure and scrutiny.  Result...

In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifted to 80s music and with Sachin, we turn to 2 of the Hip-Hop greats, Eric B. and Rakim and their classic track: “ I ain’t no Joke ”. With this song, Eric B. and Rakim told the world that they were serious contenders in the new world of hip hop and they went on to have one of the most illustrious music careers ever.  Eric B. and Rakim are hip hop royalty. &nb...

For nearly 20 years Trevor Hughes has been the CEO of the International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP). Over that time the IAPP has experienced rapid and exponential growth.  IAPP makes us all better at our jobs every day.  Trevor has become one of a few leading voices in the space and does so with razor sharp insight across all vectors of privacy from health to finance, adt...

In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80s music and there is no more powerful 80s anthem than Don’t Stop Believin’ by Journey.  This song brings to life the power we all have inside of us to make change in the world, fight in the face of adversity and drunk dancing at a wedding.  It’s a great choice for our Guest Noga Rosenthal who has been one of the lawyers at the center of the adver...

In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80s music.  For GC of Segment Mark Kahn, it’s the classic Whitesnake ballad “Here I go Again”.  Kahn is known for jumping into complex tech companies again and again - and producing exit worthy companies like What’sApp and now Segment.  He was a key contributor to the legal team at Yahoo and other companies along the way.  He also helps r...

Our guests are lawyers from prominent tech law firm Fenwick & West.  Evan Bienstock and Jennifer Stanley.  Evan is a Startup/Venture Capital and Corporate partner and Jennifer leads Fenwick’s copyright, games industry group, and co-chairs the firm’s digital media and entertainment, consumer technologies and retail industry groups. We chose the 1987 movie Wall Street because the movie...

This is a truly special episode as we chat with our really good friend Vivek Narayanadas who leads Privacy, IP and Litigation for Shopify.  The 3 of us have had many adventures in work and in life.  The 3 Amigos is the PERFECT movie as a theme here.  Data Privacy and Culinary Amigos, defending the data subject rights of the villagers of Santa Poco from the evil El Guapo (CCPA?).

We’re joined by Alysa Hutnik who leads privacy and information security at Kelley, Drye & Warren one of the leading law firms in the US on advertising issues.  Practice in this area can often feel like wandering a maze of regulatory rules, enforcement actions and nebulous provisions.  Luckily Alysa is masterful at weaving through and finding practical solutions for companies big and...

We speak with old friend Jurgen Van Staden a worldly, well-dressed data focused lawyer.  Born in South Africa, he left to go to….Tulsa to play college tennis.  Then on to law school and into DC and ad policy, Jurgen Van Staden has had a winding, twisting adventure, like saga of the Goonies. After a time at Facebook Jurgen is now at Verizon and is one of the top advertising policy and leg...

“Would it help if I got out and pushed”?  Princess Leia (about Millenium Falcon) Our guest is Carl Gottlieb the “GDPR Guy” based in the UK and a DPO to US companies.  I love the quote above because it makes me think about both GDPR enforcement efforts as well as CCPA/CPRA potential enforcement issues.  Regulators are strapped for cash, but need to be thoughtful about regulatory enfo...

Pedro and Andy chat with friend Stephanie King at Twitter.  They both love Twitter’s principled, belief in free expression and it’s a core value of Stephanie’s too.   “Footloose” was the theme because there can be no dance bans!  This is the story of a group of people fighting for expression.  Stephanie believes in expression deeply and it has guided her on her career path...

Our Dystopian Privacy Future? With the dystopian backdrop of Bladerunner, our guest is Professor Eric Goldman, an outspoken critic of the CCPA and CPRA.  We go deep with Eric on the CCPA process, CPRA development and why these laws may not improve consumer privacy. “I’m not in the business, I am the business”

Julia populates her social media with images of joy in beach towns around NY.  She works from the beach too!  What better movie to reflect her life balance than Summer Rental where John Candy and family rent a falling apart beach house and Candy ends up with a massive sunburn and challenges a rich guy to a boat race.  Julia is one of the most technical GCs we have come across and we...

“The question isn’t what are we going to do, it’s what aren’t we going to do”? This is very relevant for the story of Jules Polonetsky and his journey from real estate law, to politics, to AdTech and now to running what may be the foremost data privacy thinktank in the world.  He’s done it all and rarely takes a day “off”

Stay on top of the latest and greatest about data protection and privacy with hosts Andy Dale ,  General Counsel at Alyc e and Pedro Pavón ,  Privacy, Ads, and Data Policy at Facebook , we will meet up with our friends (revenge of the privacy nerds) in the data protection ecosystem to talk 80s, deep dive and ramble along on all things data privacy.