The Cyber Mettle Podcast with Alyson & Omar
The Cyber Mettle Podcast with Alyson & Omar
The Cyber Mettle Podcast is a stripped-down, unpretentious podcast where CEO & attorney Alyson Laderman and GRC practitioner Dr. Omar Sangurima translate the messy intersection of cybersecurity, law, and education into practical moves. Each episode tackles the human side of security — culture, risk, privacy, AI, law, and cyber insurance — with clear explanations, real stories, and takeaways leaders can use Monday morning. Learn how to replace apathy with agency, build resilient teams, and align policy with practice across business and schools. If you’re scaling a workforce or shaping the next...
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Jun 30, 2026
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Agentic AI vs Traditional Pen Testing | Dan Shallom on the Future of Cybersecurity 30.06.2026 43:36
Can AI actually improve penetration testing, or does it create an entirely new attack surface? In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with cybersecurity researcher and executive Dan Shallom to explore how agentic AI is reshaping offensive security, vulnerability discovery, and security assessments. Dan explains why today's AI isn't simply making p...
ISACA AAIR Certification Review: What to Expect from the Advanced AI Risk Exam S1E30 23.06.2026 41:35
Thinking about the AAIR certification from ISACA? Just hours after completing the Advanced AI Risk (AAIR) exam, Omar Sangurima sits down with Alyson Laderman to share his candid experience, preparation approach, key takeaways, and lessons learned from one of ISACA’s newest AI-focused certifications. In this Cert Corner episode, Omar discusses how the AAIR exam compares to certifications like the A...
The Cybersecurity Risk Nobody Talks About: Identity Resilience with Muli Motola | Cyber Mettle S1E29 16.06.2026 44:57
Your backups may be protected. Your data may be protected. But what happens if you lose access to the systems that let you access everything else? In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Muli Motola, CEO and Co-Founder of Acsense , to discuss one of the most overlooked areas of cybersecurity and resilience: Identity and Access Management (IA...
Joshua Copeland: The Truth About AI, Cybersecurity, and Why Companies Are Getting It Wrong S1E28 09.06.2026 48:39
Can AI make organizations more effective without replacing people? Cybersecurity leader Joshua Copeland joins Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman to discuss AI, workforce development, cybersecurity, governance, and the unintended consequences of automation. In this episode: • Why AI should augment people rather than replace them • The hidden costs of AI adoption • AI-generated code and cybersecur...
How Networking Actually Builds Cybersecurity Careers | Arielle Cireseanu-Acevedo, Esq. S1E27 02.06.2026 55:33
Most cybersecurity career advice focuses on technical skills. This episode explores the skill that often determines long-term success: building genuine relationships. What does it take to build a successful cybersecurity career when your background isn't technical? In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Arielle Cireseanu-Acevedo, Esq. to discu...
Data Brokers, Doxxing & Digital Privacy with Yael Grauer | The Cyber Mettle Podcast S1E26 26.05.2026 43:39
What happens when cybersecurity, investigative journalism, hacker culture, and privacy rights collide? Pulitzer Award-winning journalist Yael Grauer joins @TheCyberMettlePodcast to unpack data brokers, surveillance tech, OSINT culture, online privacy, hacker paranoia, and why your personal information is far more exposed than most people realize. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Dr...
The Future of Cybersecurity Jobs in the AI Era | James McQuiggan S1E25 19.05.2026 41:05
“AI won’t take your job” is comforting. But, James McQuiggan explains why that’s not entirely true and what cybersecurity professionals must do next. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast , Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson M. Laderman, Esq. sit down with cybersecurity veteran James McQuiggan to discuss the uncomfortable reality of AI disruption, workforce resilience, human risk, deepfakes, and...
Why Cybersecurity Hiring Is Breaking the Talent Pipeline: Pete Strouse on AI, GRC & Recruiting S1E24 12.05.2026 46:38
AI is changing cybersecurity hiring faster than most companies are prepared for. Recruiter Pete Strouse joins @TheCyberMettlePodcast to explain why entry-level roles are disappearing, how GRC is evolving, and what professionals must do to stay relevant. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Pete Strouse, founder of InfoSec Connect and wid...
Cert Corner | CISM Explained: 2026 Exam Changes, What It Really Means, and Who Should Get It S1E23 05.05.2026 41:00
Thinking about the CISM? The exam is changing, and most people misunderstand what it actually tests and validates. Here’s what ISACA really expects, plus how to think like a manager (not an engineer) to pass. In this Cert Corner episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman break down the Certified Information Security Manager (CISM) certification: what it is, what...
The Revenge of the Generalist: AI, Risk, and the Future of Cybersecurity Leadership | Fred Descloux S1E22 28.04.2026 55:20
AI isn’t replacing cybersecurity professionals. It’s reshaping what matters. The future belongs to those who can connect the dots, not just execute tasks. In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Frederic (Fred) Descloux to explore one of the biggest shifts happening in cybersecurity today: the return of the generalist. Fred Descloux is the f...
Protecting Seniors from Scams, AI Impersonation & Data Brokers | Cat Karow (ZoraSafe) S1E21 21.04.2026 53:59
Scams aren’t what they used to be, and your loved ones are the target. From AI voice cloning to data brokers, this is the conversation families need to have now. This episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast tackles one of the most urgent — and uncomfortable — topics in cybersecurity today: protecting seniors and vulnerable family members from modern scams. Hosts Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman are...
From Historian to AI Governance Leader: How to Break Into Privacy & AI (Dr. Kyle David) S1E20 14.04.2026 47:21
Breaking into AI governance, privacy, or cybersecurity isn’t about where you start, it’s about how you think. Dr. Kyle David went from historian to AI governance leader and shows exactly how others can do it too. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Dr. Kyle David, founder of Dr. David Privacy and creator of leading IAPP certification trai...
AI Governance Is Already Broken — Here’s How to Fix It | Graeme Rudd (Arise Framework) S1E19 07.04.2026 56:01
AI isn’t just another tool — it’s changing risk, liability, and how businesses operate. If you’re treating AI like SaaS, you’re already behind. In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Graeme Rudd (former Green Beret, recovering lawyer, and founder of Assessed Intelligence ) to unpack one of the most urgent issues in modern business: the conver...
Cybersecurity Career Paths Decoded: Red, Blue, Purple & Beyond | The Cyber Mettle Podcast S1E18 31.03.2026 49:43
Most people enter cybersecurity knowing they want "in." Very few know which door to walk through — and the industry does almost nothing to help them figure it out. In this episode, Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman, Esq. break down the full InfoSec color wheel — red, blue, white, purple, orange, yellow, and green teams — and give aspiring professionals, hiring managers, and workforce develope...
Cert Corner AI Governance Certification (AIGP) — What It’s REALLY Like to Take the Exam S1E17 24.03.2026 32:33
Is the AI Governance Professional (AIGP) cert worth it? Here’s the real, unfiltered breakdown ... immediately after taking the exam. In this Cert Corner episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima breaks down his experience taking the AI Governance Professional (AIGP) certification from the IAPP just hours after sitting for the exam. From preparation strategies and study tools to exam stru...
Fixing the Cybersecurity Entry-Level Job Crisis | The Cyber Mettle Podcast S1E16 17.03.2026 52:38
When it comes to cybersecurity, there are those out there who point to a talent shortage within the workforce pipeline. But more and more experts are realizing that there is no shortage of talent; rather, there is a shortage of entry-level jobs for newcomers to the field to step into. And as statistics prove that that is the case, where are the next generation of cyber defenders supposed to start...
Cert Corner: What Is the CTPRP Certification? Building a Third-Party Risk Program S1E15 10.03.2026 25:03
What does it actually take to build a third-party risk program from the ground up? In this Cert Corner episode, Omar breaks down the Certified Third-Party Risk Professional (CTPRP) certification, what he learned, and who should consider taking it. Third-party risk is one of the fastest-growing challenges in cybersecurity and enterprise risk management. But if you’re tasked with building a vendor r...
How AI & Cybersecurity Will Shape the Future of Farming | Securing Agriculture Before It’s Too Late S1E14 03.03.2026 46:34
AI is transforming agriculture. But are we securing it? Autonomous tractors. Precision farming. Remote sensing. Starlink-connected equipment. The attack surface is growing — and food is critical infrastructure. In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , we sit down with Ezekiel “Zeke” McReynolds, cyber defense analyst and agricultural engineer, to explore the intersection of AI, autonomy, a...
AI Agents, Identity & Zero Standing Privilege | Ofir Stein (CTO, Apono) S1E13 24.02.2026 40:16
AI agents are moving at machine speed. Security teams are overloaded. How do you protect identity and access in a world that won’t slow down? In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Ofir Stein, CTO and Co-Founder of Apono, to unpack how identity and access management must evolve in the age of AI agents. From cloud transformation lessons to dyna...
COSO ERM Explained for CISOs | Enterprise Risk Management for Cyber Leaders (AICPA Review) S1E12 17.02.2026 36:25
In this Cert Corner episode, Omar Sangurima reviews the COSO Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) certificate offered through the AICPA. As cybersecurity professionals increasingly present to boards and executive leadership, understanding enterprise risk becomes critical. Omar shares his candid experience with the course structure, exam difficulty, cost, and practical value — and reflects on how ERM r...
GRC Isn’t a Checkbox: Dr. Mike Brass on AI Governance, Risk & the Three Lines of Defense S1E11 13.02.2026 1:02:02
GRC isn’t about checklists. It’s about structure, accountability, and human behavior. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Dr. Mike Brass — Head of Governance, Risk & Compliance and Enterprise Security Architecture at National Highways (UK) — joins Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman, Esq. for a deep dive into: • Why cybersecurity is fundamentally about human behavior • The evolutio...
Small Business Cybersecurity Made Practical (NIST CSF 2.0 + Quick Start Guide) | Daniel Eliot S1E10 27.01.2026 44:52
Small businesses aren’t “too small” for cybercrime; they’re often the easiest target. NIST’s Daniel Eliot breaks down free, practical on-ramps to CSF 2.0, starting with MFA. In this episode, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman are joined by Daniel Eliot (NIST), who leads small business engagement in NIST’s Applied Cybersecurity Division. Together, they unpack what small businesses actually need to...
Tough Conversations: How Online Grooming Actually Starts (Games, Chats, “Harmless” Apps) S1E9 20.01.2026 1:02:17
Online exploitation doesn’t look the way most people expect. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, hosts Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman are joined by cybersecurity professional and parent Jessica Weiland to unpack how online grooming, sextortion, and digital exploitation actually begin, often through games, chat features, and apps children and teens use every day. Rather than focusi...
Cert Corner: Shared Assessments CTPRA - What’s on the Exam + Is It Worth It? S1E8 13.01.2026 30:41
Thinking about the Shared Assessments CTPRA certificate? Omar breaks down what’s actually tested, including SIG, standardized control assessments, and risk tiering, plus what surprised him. Also: proctoring, time management, pricing, and who this cert is really for. Welcome to the first episode of Cert Corner, a new Cyber Mettle segment where Omar shares practical, experience-based breakdowns of s...
The Cyber Pipeline Myth: Why Entry-Level Cyber Jobs Are Broken | Jennifer Cutler-Scotti S1E7 06.01.2026 59:52
Is there really a cybersecurity talent shortage, or are we defining “entry-level” wrong? Jennifer Cutler-Scotti joins The Cyber Mettle Podcast to challenge the pipeline myth, explain how experiential learning fills real gaps, and outline what industry, academia, and government must do together to prepare the next generation of cyber professionals. CHAPTERS 00:00 – Introduction & guest overvie...
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