Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon
The Customer Success Playbook
Welcome to “The Customer Success Playbook,” a fresh podcast initiative spearheaded by Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon. Immerse yourself with us in the dynamic realm of customer success, where we unravel the latest insights, inspirations, and wisdom from recognized leaders in the Customer Success domain. Our journey began with a simple yet profound belief: that meaningful conversations can significantly impact our professional trajectory. With this ethos, we’ve embarked on a mission to bring to you the voices of seasoned and revered professionals in the field. Our episodes have seen the likes of...
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Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon
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Dec 22, 2025
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Episodes
Customer Success Playbook - Final Episode with Kevin and Roman 22.12.2025 37:26
Send us Fan Mail This finale feels less like an ending and more like a graduation ceremony for everyone who has ever cared about Customer Success. In this closing chapter of the customer success playbook podcast, Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon look back on a journey that started as a “ludicrous” idea over food and drinks and turned into a global community with nearly 13,000 downloads across countr...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E72 - Adrian Swinscoe - Enhancing Customer Experience with AI 29.08.2025 9:37
Send us Fan Mail Dive into the rapidly evolving world of AI with Adrian Swinscoe as we wrap up our three-part series on how to keep AI from becoming just another buzzword. This episode unpacks the flood of AI tools hitting the market, the challenge of maintaining a human touch in customer experience, and strategies to avoid the dreaded “tech for tech’s sake” trap. Adrian shares a fresh perspective...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E71 - Adrian Swinscoe - Unlocking Value in Customer Journeys 20.08.2025 9:17
Send us Fan Mail Ready to inject some punk spirit into your customer experience? In this episode of the Customer Success Playbook, Adrian Swinscoe joins Roman Trebon to explore the delicate art of reducing friction without losing that vital human touch. From the bustling cultural tapestry of Edinburgh’s Fringe Festival to personal tales of rock climbing and postponed trips to Japan, Adrian sets th...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E70 - Adrian Swinscoe - Data and Customer Storytelling 11.08.2025 8:14
Send us Fan Mail Ready to shake up your customer experience approach with some no-fluff, straight-to-the-point wisdom? In this episode, Adrian Swinscoe – author of *Punk CX* and *How to Wow* – joins Roman Trebon to deliver a masterclass on how real, actionable data combined with firsthand customer stories can transform your CX from good to unforgettable. Learn why "going to the gemba" (t...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E69 - Gayle Gorvett - Scaling AI Governance Without Killing Innovation 25.07.2025 21:25
Send us Fan Mail How do you build AI governance that scales without becoming the innovation police? In our final conversation with tech lawyer Gayle Gorvett, we tackle the ultimate balancing act facing every organization: creating robust AI oversight that moves at the speed of business. From shocking federal court rulings that could force AI companies to retain all user data indefinitely, to the T...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E68 - Gayle Gorvett - Who's Liable When AI Goes Wrong? 16.07.2025 11:39
Send us Fan Mail When AI systems fail spectacularly, who pays the price? Part two of our conversation with global tech lawyer Gayle Gorvett tackles the million-dollar question every business leader is afraid to ask. With federal AI regulation potentially paused for a decade while technology races ahead at breakneck speed, companies are left creating their own rules in an accountability vacuum. Gay...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E67 - Gayle Gorvett - AI Governance Essentials 07.07.2025 9:03
Send us Fan Mail Ready to navigate the complex world of AI governance without getting lost in legal jargon? This episode delivers a masterclass in building ethical AI frameworks that actually work for your business. Global tech lawyer and fractional general counsel Gayle Gorvett breaks down the essential guardrails every company needs before diving headfirst into AI implementation. From her work w...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E66 - Jake McKee - AI Experience Design 03.07.2025 13:42
Send us Fan Mail The final episode of this transformative series tackles the ultimate challenge: scaling AI experiences without sacrificing empathy. Jake McKee reveals why most companies approach AI transformation backwards—focusing on tools instead of relationships, replacement instead of enhancement. This customer success playbook episode demonstrates how successful AI transformation mirrors the...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E65 - Jake Mckee - Community VS Data Driven Road Map 25.06.2025 17:33
Send us Fan Mail What happens when passionate customer feedback clashes with cold, hard data? Jake McKee tackles this age-old product dilemma with wisdom earned from years at Lego and building communities for Fortune 500 brands. This episode of the customer success playbook reveals why treating community building as relationship development—not just feedback collection—transforms how companies bal...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E 64 - Jake McKee - AI Voice and AI Adoption 16.06.2025 7:39
Send us Fan Mail The future of AI isn't just about technology—it's about relationships. Jake McKee, renowned as "the community guy," delivers a paradigm-shifting perspective on AI adoption that goes far beyond features and functionality. Rather than getting caught up in the technical capabilities, McKee advocates for designing the emotional connection between humans and AI syst...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E63 - AI Revolution in Customer Success: From Chorus to Custom GPTs 08.06.2025 11:38
Send us Fan Mail AI Friday delivers cutting-edge insights as John Huber reveals how artificial intelligence is transforming customer success operations. The conversation explores practical AI applications that are already delivering results, from conversation intelligence tools like Chorus for team coaching and customer context gathering, to emerging platforms like Sturdy that analyze unstructured...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E62 - John Huber - Who Should Really Own Upsells and Cross-sells? 04.06.2025 9:26
Send us Fan Mail Wednesday brings the burning question that divides CS and sales teams everywhere: who should own expansion revenue? John Huber tackles this contentious topic with nuanced insights drawn from his experience managing both dedicated CS-led expansion models and hybrid partnership approaches. Rather than offering a one-size-fits-all answer, John presents a thoughtful framework for dete...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E61 - John Huber - Blueprint for Strategic Alignment 26.05.2025 6:36
Send us Fan Mail Summary This episode kicks off a compelling three-part series featuring John Huber, founder of Customer Success Architects, who brings two decades of experience building CS functions across five different SaaS companies. The conversation centers on the fundamental question every growing business faces: how do you launch a customer success function that actually drives results? Joh...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E60 - Kristen Nolan - How AI Can Strengthen Client Relationships 23.05.2025 9:36
Send us Fan Mail The Customer Success Playbook podcast wraps up its enlightening three-part series with Kristen Nolan of Interview Valet by exploring the delicate balance between technology and human connection. In this forward-thinking discussion, Kristen reveals how she leverages AI as a strategic tool while maintaining authentic relationships. From using AI to identify unique client differentia...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E59 - Kristen Nolan - Get Out There 21.05.2025 9:21
Send us Fan Mail The Customer Success Playbook podcast delivers a thought-provoking exploration of confidence building in this captivating episode featuring Kristen Nolan of Interview Valet. Hosts Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger guide a discussion that dives into overcoming self-doubt and imposter syndrome. Kristen shares her personal journey from questioning "who cares what I have to say?&quo...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E58 - Kristen Nolan - Master Your Life with Practical Time Management Tips 19.05.2025 6:51
Send us Fan Mail In this eye-opening episode of the Customer Success Playbook podcast, hosts Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger welcome Kristen Nolan, Senior Client Account Manager at Interview Valet. As a military spouse, mother of three, and active community volunteer, Kristen shares her battle-tested strategies for managing a packed schedule. Her number one tip? Taking control of your calendar thro...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E57 - Elizabeth Harrin - AI Friday Special: Elizabeth Harrin's Guide to Smart Project Management Automation 16.05.2025 9:03
Send us Fan Mail As artificial intelligence promises to revolutionize project management, many professionals feel caught between excitement and overwhelm. In this AI Friday finale of their three-part series, Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon explore with Elizabeth Harrin how to harness AI's power without losing the human touch. From security concerns to practical applications, Elizabeth delivers...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E56 - Elizabeth Harrin - Blueprint for Managing Competing Project Demands 14.05.2025 9:10
Send us Fan Mail When multiple projects collide with competing deadlines, stakeholder management becomes an art form. In this dynamic episode of the Customer Success Playbook, Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon continue their conversation with Elizabeth Harrin, exploring the intricate dance of aligning diverse stakeholder expectations. From financial services to healthcare, Elizabeth shares her cross-...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E55 - Elizabeth Harrin - Stop the Burnout 12.05.2025 8:42
Send us Fan Mail Ever feel like you're juggling flaming torches while riding a unicycle? That's modern project management for you. In this episode of the Customer Success Playbook, Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon welcome Elizabeth Harrin, the mastermind behind the award-winning Rebels Guide to Project Management. With over two decades of experience helping professionals navigate the chaos...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E54 - Katie Smith - How to Use AI in Marketing Without Losing Your Brand Voice 09.05.2025 16:24
Send us Fan Mail In this final part of the Katie Smith trilogy on the Customer Success Playbook , we enter the brave new world of AI and marketing. Host Kevin Metzger explores the promises and pitfalls of generative tools with Katie, who brings her thoughtful and grounded take on how businesses can embrace automation while fiercely protecting their authenticity. If you’ve ever wondered how to use...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E53 - Katie Smith - Building the Bridge: Aligning Marketing and Customer Succes 07.05.2025 15:48
Send us Fan Mail Back for part two with Katie Smith on the Customer Success Playbook , and this time we’re tearing down silos. In this Wednesday edition, host Kevin Metzger guides a conversation focused on how to bring marketing and customer success into harmony. Katie—founder of Wild Path Consulting and fractional CMO—shares a blueprint for unifying teams, streamlining customer journeys, and tur...
Customer Success Playbook Podcast S3 E52 - Katie Smith - From Stagnation to Strategy 05.05.2025 5:37
Send us Fan Mail This episode of the Customer Success Playbook podcast is a breath of fresh Livingston, Montana air. Kevin Metzger sits down with Katie Smith, fractional CMO and founder of Wild Path Consulting, to unpack how strategic marketing and proactive customer listening can transform customer relationships and drive sustainable growth. Katie dives into tactics that ensure continuous custome...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E51 - Joe Di Grande - Understand the Goal 02.05.2025 10:43
Send us Fan Mail Close out the week with a power-packed episode of the Customer Success Playbook, as Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger welcome Joe Di Grande for a lively Friday discussion on AI in customer success! Joe shares an honest look at how AI can supercharge your customer success playbook—but only if deployed with clarity and purpose. Learn how to avoid the common pitfall of chasing shiny AI...
Customer Success Playbook PS3 E50 - Joe Di Grande - Your CS Tech Stack 30.04.2025 11:05
Send us Fan Mail Gear up for an energizing discussion on tech stacks and smart scaling! In this midweek episode of the Customer Success Playbook, Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon welcome Joe Di Grande back to tackle a pressing issue: bloated CS tech stacks. Joe shares why so many organizations fall into this trap and delivers actionable advice on how to avoid or fix it. From building cross-functiona...
Customer Success Playbook S3 E49 - Joe Di Grande - Tech Touch 28.04.2025 7:43
Send us Fan Mail Ready to rethink your approach to customer success without draining your budget? In this episode of the Customer Success Playbook, hosts Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger sit down with Joe Di Grande, founder of Joe DE's Tech Touch, to demystify tech touch strategies. Joe shares practical methods for building a tech touch framework even when your data is scattered and your budget...
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