The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast

Jon Hartley and Dr. Oz along with his two deputies discuss running the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) which administers the major federal government healthcare programs within the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), tackling Medicaid and Medicare fraud across the nation, healthcare changes in the One Big Beautiful Bill (Working Families Tax Cuts Act), lowering pha...

Pete Klenow has spent his career tackling some of economics’ biggest questions: Why do some countries grow rich while others remain poor? What drives long-run prosperity? And how can policy foster innovation and productivity? In this episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, Jon Hartley sits down with the Stanford economist to discuss Klenow’s influential research on sticky prices, de...

Jon Hartley and Sebastian Edwards discuss Edward’s time at the University of Chicago as a PhD student in the time of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School, Chile’s market reforms and the Chicago Boys (documented in Sebastian’s most recent book, The Chile Project: The Story of the Chicago Boys and the Downfall of Neoliberalism), Javier Milei and Argentina’s prospects of reversal, renewed hope for...

Jon Hartley and Phil Gramm discuss Graham’s career as an academic economist at Texas A&M, his service in the US House of Representatives and in the US Senate, and his work on the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings and Gramm-Leach-Bliley legislation. Graham also talks about his recent books on the role that economic freedom plays in economic growth, as well as various fallacies surrounding the rise of inequ...

Jon Hartley and Niall Ferguson explore Niall's career, the power of networks in his books The House of Rothschild volume one (1998) and volume two (1999), and The Square and the Tower (2017); the rise and fall of empire in his books Empire (2003) and The Great Degeneration (2013), America’s global role in his book Colossus (2005), and the enduring legacy of Adam Smith on the 250th anniversary of T...

Jon Hartley and Stephen Miran discuss Stephen’s new paper on strategies to reduce the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet, the state of inflation and the labor market in the US economy, estimating the neutral rate of interest and the stance of current monetary policy, and how the rise of AI and the public debt may influence monetary policy going forward.  Recorded on March 26, 2026. ABOUT THE SERIES E...

Jon Hartley and Charles Calomiris discuss banking crises, the Diamond-Dybvig model, deposit insurance, the history of bailouts and public subsidies for banking, the historical comparison of the US and Canada banking systems, quantitative easing and ample reserves banking, stablecoins, non-bank lenders, and Charlie’s magnum opus Fragile By Design. Recorded on February 27, 2026. ABOUT THE SERIES Eac...

Jon Hartley and Jim Esposito discuss Jim’s beginnings, his career in senior roles at Goldman Sachs in New York and London, and moving to Miami to run one of the world’s largest broker-dealer and market makers, Citadel Securities. They also discuss the rising role Miami is playing in global capital markets (becoming “Wall Street South”) with Citadel’s moving its headquarters there, ongoing trends i...

Jon Hartley and Tevi Troy discuss Tevi’s career as a Presidential historian, serving in a variety of roles in the George W. Bush administration including as White House Domestic Policy Council Deputy Director and as Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services, as well as Tevi’s new book  The Power and the Money: The Epic Clashes Between American Titans of Industry and Commanders in Chief . Recor...

Jon Hartley and Andrew Ross Sorkin discuss Andrew’s career as a journalist, Andrew’s recent book 1929 and how the events between the 1929 Wall Street crash and 1933 reshaped banking and financial regulation, comparisons with the 2008 global financial crisis (chronicled in Andrew’s first book Too Big To Fail), and the policy lessons that have been learned from both events. Recorded on January 9, 20...

Jon Hartley and Luis Garicano discuss Luis’s career, including his time as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) from 2019 to 2022, his research on firms, Europe’s struggles with innovation and regulation, and the future of the euro. Recorded on December 22, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video podcast series and the official podcast of the...

Jon Hartley and Matteo Maggiori discuss Matteo’s career on going from trading at JP Morgan to becoming an academic economist, the rise of China’s economy, geoeconomics and sanctions power, measuring international economic data, exchange rates, as well as beliefs and portfolios. Recorded on December 2, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video podcas...

Don Brash on his career as a central banker at the helm of New Zealand’s central bank, helping to start inflation targeting in New Zealand, his time as a politician and leader of the National Party, and more. Recorded on November 21, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video podcast series and the official podcast of the Hoover Economic Policy Worki...

Jon Hartley and David Henderson discuss David’s career as an economist, the role of property rights and market competition in economic growth, as well as the UCLA School of Economics, Armen Alchian, Harold Demsetz, and the New Institutional Economics. Recorded on November 15, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video podcast series and the official...

Jon Hartley and George Tavlas discuss George’s career as an economist, including as a central banker at the Bank of Greece, the history of monetarism (including George’s new book  The Monetarists ),  Milton Friedman , and the evolution of central banking over the past decades, including its decline since the 1980s, and its renewed post-pandemic interest. Recorded on August 29, 2025. ABOUT THE SERI...

Jon Hartley and Cliff Asness discuss his time as a graduate student under  Eugene Fama at the University of Chicago, his career at Goldman Sachs, and founding AQR, factor-based investing (value and momentum), the efficient markets hypothesis, the elastic markets hypothesis, the inelastic markets hypothesis, comparisons between private equity and public equity returns, and more. Recorded on August...

Jon Hartley and Jay Bhattacharya discuss Jay Bhattacharya’s vision for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), running the NIH as an innovation accelerator, replication in the sciences, measuring scientist productivity, and the new NIH policy reducing animal testing. Recorded on August 27, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video podcast series an...

Jon Hartley and Arthur Laffer discuss his origins as an economist, including his relationships with George Shultz and Milton Friedman, the 50-year history of the Laffer Curve, the shape of the Laffer Curve, the effects of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act on fixed investment and revenue, and much more. Recorded on August 12, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century...

Jon Hartley and Christopher Waller discuss monetary policy at the Fed, r-star, and the stance of monetary policy, the 2025 Federal Reserve framework review, quantitative easing and the size of the Fed balance sheet, the early 2020s inflation, and how payments are evolving since the passage of the GENIUS Act. Recorded on August 28, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in th...

Jon Hartley and Cass Sunstein discuss the current state as of 2025 of behavioral economics and ideas presented in Nudge (such as government nudge units), administrative law and regulation (cost-benefit analysis and regulatory budgets), Constitutional Law and separation of powers, political philosophy and liberalism. Recorded on August 12, 2025. ABOUT THE SERIES Each episode of Capitalism and Freed...

Jon Hartley and Liz Truss discuss the former UK Prime Minister’s upbringing and her early interest in economics and politics, her pro-growth policy vision for the United Kingdom, her premiership and the 2022 UK gilt crisis, the state of free speech in the UK and the anglosphere, the Starmer Labour government, the role of the UK and its allies in the world amidst the rise of China, and the future d...

Jon Hartley and Richard Epstein discuss Richard’s career as a legal scholar, the takings clause, state monopoly power, Richard’s property-driven theory of constitutional interpretation (how it contrasts with the originalism of Antonin Scalia and Robert Bork as well as living constitution theories), the Coase theorem, and classical liberalism versus anarcho-capitalism. Recorded on July 16, 2025. AB...

Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and former FDIC Vice Chair Thomas Hoenig discuss Tom’s career as an economist, as Vice Chair of the FDIC, President of the Kansas City Fed, topics including the global financial crisis, banking regulation, Glass-Steagall, Too Big To Fail, moral hazard, lender of last resort powers, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, deposit insurance after th...

Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and hedge fund investor Kyle Bass discuss Kyle’s career and upbringing, the 2000s housing crisis, the 2010s European sovereign debt crisis, the rise and fall of Japan’s economy, China’s rising aggression and decoupling from the US, shifting tides in the Middle East, the sclerosis of Europe, and why the US remains the best place in the world to continue to inve...

Jon Hartley and Randal Quarles discuss Randy’s career as a lawyer and in policy (including his time as Federal Reserve Vice Chair for Regulation) and topics such as the global financial crisis, Glass-Steagall, banking regulation, lender of last resort, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, the potential relaxation of Treasuries in the Supplementary Leverage Ratio (SLR), deposit insu...