Cameron Madill and Jamie Born

The Business of Us

Society EN ↓ 27 episodes

The Business of Us tells the stories of entrepreneurs and their relationships. In our podcast, we focus on what it means to be a couple when one or both partners own a business, the science around committed partnerships and entrepreneurial personalities, and specific actions you can take today to improve your relationship.

Author

Cameron Madill and Jamie Born

Category

Society

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Latest episode

Jun 15, 2026

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Episodes

Love, Vision, and the Long Road Together 15.06.2026

What does it take to build a marriage that can hold business, grief, reinvention, and a whole new chapter of life? In this episode of The Business of Us, Cameron and Jamie talk with Katty and Jamie Douraghy about working together as a couple, honoring each other's individuality, and building a shared vision over decades. They reflect on lessons from entrepreneurship, the boundaries that helped the...

The Last Mountain: Who Are We When Work and Kids Step Back? 18.05.2026

What happens when the roles that have organized your life for decades start to loosen their grip? In this episode of The Business of Us, Cameron and Jamie explore what many couples quietly fear but rarely prepare for: the identity shift that comes when work, parenting, and other defining roles move out of center stage. They discuss why these transitions can either deepen intimacy or expose distanc...

Building a Relationship Strong Enough to Hold Your Dreams 20.04.2026

What does it look like to build a life and legacy as a couple, not just as individuals? In this episode of The Business of Us, Cameron and Jamie sit down with Brian and Jean Brault to explore legacy, entrepreneurship, marriage, and the transitions that test a relationship over time. They discuss how couples can reverse engineer the future they want, why friendship and curiosity matter so much, and...

Beyond the Business: Choosing Each Other Through Change 24.03.2026

What happens when a business that once brought a couple together starts taking over the relationship? In this episode of The Business of Us, Cameron and Jamie talk with Mike and Jackie Schoenberger about building a company together, recognizing when work is crowding out connection, and making the brave choice to change course. They share how a  growth mindset, honest communication, and a shared vi...

Finding Purpose and Anchors Beyond Entrepreneurial Success 09.02.2026

In this episode, Jamie Born joins Cameron to explore what happens after entrepreneurs reach the peak of success. They discuss how achievement can leave people feeling disoriented, the importance of building identity beyond work, and how awareness, rest, and emotional anchors can guide the next phase of life and relationships. The Business of Us is brought to you by  Jamie Born  and  Cameron Madill...

Defining Success Beyond the Exit 13.01.2026

Tom Bronson joins Cameron and Jamie to explore what happens when success isn't the finish line but the beginning of a new journey. Drawing from his experience building and selling over 100 companies, Tom shares lessons on communication, alignment, and rediscovering purpose after a major business exit. This conversation invites entrepreneurial couples to reflect on what's next and how to define suc...

From Breaking Point to Breakthrough 08.12.2025

Greg and Diana Keys share their journey through financial strain, burnout, and rediscovering connection when everything felt like it was falling apart. What began as a business crisis became the foundation for a stronger partnership—one built on honesty, teamwork, and vulnerability. This episode explores how redefining success and learning to be seen changed both their marriage and their business....

Making it Work Through the Chaos 10.11.2025

In this episode, Jamie interviews her co-host, Cameron Madill, about what it really takes for entrepreneurial couples to stay connected when business and life feel overwhelming. Cameron shares lessons from his personal journey, his research with hundreds of couples, and how small shifts—like creating slow spaces, building emotional awareness, and treating relationships with the same intentionality...

Rethinking Fairness in the Modern Relationship 13.10.2025

In this episode, Cameron and Jamie talk with author and mindfulness expert Nate Klemp , coauthor of The 80/80 Marriage and the upcoming book Busy Love. Nate shares insights on how couples can move beyond fairness toward generosity, balance ambition with intimacy, and stay connected amid the chaos of modern life. The conversation explores practical tools for building intentional, thriving relations...

Climbing the 3 Mountains of Love and Partnership 11.09.2025

In this episode, Cameron and Jamie introduce the Three Mountains Framework (partnership, purpose, and passion) as a way to understand the universal relationship challenges entrepreneurs and their spouses face across a lifetime. Drawing from personal stories, research, and therapeutic insights, they explore how couples can use these inevitable moments of strain to deepen intimacy, resilience, and c...

From Resentment to Resilience: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun on Loving an Entrepreneur 14.07.2025

Dorcas Cheng-Tozun knew early on that she was marrying an entrepreneur, but what she didn't realize was how profoundly that choice would shape her life and marriage. In this vulnerable and honest conversation, Dorcas shares how the demands of entrepreneurship strained intimacy, sparked deep resentment, and nearly unraveled her sense of self—especially after becoming a parent. She offers insights o...

The Emotional Labor of Entrepreneurship 19.05.2025

Entrepreneurship isn't just a career—it's an emotional rollercoaster. The Business of Us dives into the mental health realities of entrepreneurs, exploring how pre-existing conditions can be exacerbated and, in some cases, entirely induced by the high-stakes world of business ownership. With 38% of entrepreneurs facing at least one mental health condition, we examine the personality traits that ma...

There's Always a High Five 21.04.2025

Rick and Emily Garner started their journey as a couple while debating the best way to turn their passion for gourmet food into a business. Rick had always dreamed of opening a restaurant, and when he launched his sandwich shop, their roles in both business and home life naturally fell into place. A year later, Emily started a catering company, and they implemented the 51/49 rule to balance decisi...

Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart 24.03.2025

Entrepreneurial success and a thriving marriage don't have to be at odds. Kelly Clements joins The Business of Us Podcast to share how couples can bridge the ambition gap, balance Alpha and Beta energies, and apply six key principles to strengthen both their relationship and business. Discover why the best 10x strategy isn't just in your company—it's in your marriage. Key takeaways from today's ep...

Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk 20.02.2025

In this heartfelt episode, Bobby and Andi share their journey of meeting in an unlikely place—an AA meeting—and building a relationship rooted in faith, trust, and resilience. They discuss how they embraced life's "do-overs," turned post-traumatic challenges into growth, and took a leap of faith into entrepreneurship. Through fear, uncertainty, and unwavering trust in each other, they reveal the t...

Balancing Acts: Women, Entrepreneurship, and the Currency of Time 19.01.2025

This episode explores the unique challenges women entrepreneurs face in balancing business, love, and family, featuring  Lauren Reed-Williams journey from reluctant entrepreneur to financial advocate. Lauren shares insights on empowering women financially, valuing time as currency, navigating a business exit, and designing a fulfilling life with intentionality and balance. Key takeaways from today...

Treat Your Family As Your Most Important Asset 16.12.2024

Join us as we explore the intricate dynamics of being married to an entrepreneur. In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and triumphs faced by a spouse. Our guest Ashley Corn , a seasoned performance coach for veterans, athletes, and entrepreneurs, shares personal insights from her own experience as well as findings from interviews with 40 entrepreneurial spouses. Key takeaways from...

Talk About it Before it Blows Up 02.12.2024

Join us as we dive into the ups and downs of marriage, where challenges become the gritty canvas for greatness.  Dean and Alana Stott share their journey of building a family and multiple businesses together by having fun in the mud, understanding each other's strengths, and connecting around shared and individual goals. Key takeaways from today's episode: Relentless Resilience: Challenges are the...

Harnessing ADHD Strengths in Relationships 18.11.2024

In this episode, therapist Anita Robertson , explores the intricate dynamics of ADHD and relationships. Several years ago, Anita found herself struggling as a new mother with ADHD and, in the process of her own relationship growth and adaptation, realized that most relationship tools didn't work for ADHD without refinement. Anita sheds light on the different ways ADHD can show up in our behavior a...

Two Couples, One Vision: Powering Through Entrepreneurship Together 06.11.2024

In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and opportunities that arise when two married couples, Dale and Melisa , and Jake and Kendi , come together to pursue an entrepreneurial endeavor. The four individuals bring diverse backgrounds and experiences, from wealth management and healthcare to operational consulting and the automotive industry. Together, they have formed Slanted Saguaro,...

Running So Fast I Didn't See the Freight Train 26.09.2024

In this episode, Rico Rodriguez discusses how, despite overcoming a difficult childhood to find entrepreneurial success, he still faced severe mental health issues affecting his life and relationships. Rico shares his journey to inspire others to seek help and remind them they're not alone.   Key takeaways from today's episode: Mental health challenges can't always be controlled or overcome by wil...

Don't Defer Health or Happiness 05.09.2024

In this episode, we sit down with Brad Feld and Amy Batchelor, the authors of "The Start-Up Life," to discuss the often-overlooked challenges entrepreneurs and their partners face. They share insights on how to maintain a healthy relationship and personal well-being while navigating the demanding world of startups. From the difference between external perceptions and reality, to aligning the rhyth...

Rituals for Love and Life 15.08.2024

In this episode, we'll explore how two entrepreneurs, who met in a spiritual and non-coincidental way, have harnessed the transformative power of choice and belief to create a life filled with intention, connection, and balance. Key takeaways from today's episode: The difference between routine and ritual is intention. We'll discuss three powerful rituals our guests have implemented, including Sun...

Don't Forget To Love Each Other 16.07.2024

Join us as we explore the intricate connection between entrepreneurship, personal relationships, and the power of aligning your core values. We'll delve into the common challenges faced by founders and spouses, including the dynamics of different personality types. Discover practical strategies to create a sustainable template for success in both your business and personal life. Whether you're an...

Treat Your Relationship Like Work 12.06.2024

Ann and Sunny Sheu share their story of connecting over a glass of Sprite, working in the family business together until a prenup pulled it apart, and rebuilding their relationship by focusing on themselves to build an intentional relationship focused on their "decade dream." Key takeaways from today's episode: Having a shared family vision and aligning on long-term goals, what they call the Decad...

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