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The Business of Tech
The Business of Tech, hosted by leading tech journalist Peter Griffin. Every week they take a deep dive into emerging technology and news from the sector to help guide the important decisions all Business leaders make. Issues such as cybersecurity, retaining trust after a cyberattack, business IT needs, purchasing SaaS tools and more. New Episodes out every Thursday. Follow or subscribe to get it delivered straight to your favourite podcatcher.@petergnz@businessdesk_nzProudly sponsored by 2degrees Business!
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Unworkable: the teen social media ban 08.07.2026 50:37
The National Party is aiming to introduce legislation for its proposed social media ban for under‑16s before November’s election. The move, replicating a ban already in place across the Tasman, might look like a neat political fix – but it is far more likely to fail, backfire and leave our kids and critical infrastructure less safe. That’s the stark warning from veteran tech cons...
Heidi: the AI scribe shaking up NZ healthcare 01.07.2026 44:37
Australian startup Heidi Health has become one of the most visible examples of AI actually shifting the dial on healthcare productivity – and New Zealand is at the forefront of that story. In this week’s episode of The Business of Tech, I talk to Heidi co‑founder Yu Liu about the company’s journey from student training tool to AI “care partner” for clinicians, a...
Kiwi co-founded world‑builder hits $2.5 billion valuation 24.06.2026 36:45
Another New Zealander has joined the global AI big league. Auckland-raised engineer Jeff Hawke is now co‑founder and chief technology officer of Odyssey, a Palo Alto‑ and London‑based frontier lab that has just raised an eye‑watering US$310 million at a US$1.45 (NZ$2.55 billion) valuation – making it one of the world’s hottest AI “world model” startups. On this week&r...
China’s AI and robot revolution 17.06.2026 44:21
China is racing ahead in artificial intelligence and robotics – and New Zealand risks being left on the sidelines if it doesn’t pay close attention. In this week’s episode of The Business of Tech, I talk to two Kiwis who’ve just had a rare front‑row seat on China’s AI boom – Auckland-based ElementX co‑founder and chief technology officer Ming Cheuk, and Christch...
AI vs public sector jobs 10.06.2026 57:57
The Government’s plan to cut 8,700 public sector jobs and save $2.4 billion has been framed largely as a brutal cost‑cutting exercise. In this week’s episode of The Business of Tech podcast, Hamilton‑based technologist Brandon Hutcheson argues it could instead be the catalyst for a once‑in‑a‑generation redesign of how government works – if we get the AI strategy right. He a...
From Uber to Exaba: AJ Tills takes on Big Tech storage 03.06.2026 43:55
When it comes to scaling high‑growth tech companies, AJ Tills has been in the engine room. As one of Uber’s earliest hires in New Zealand, he helped the ride‑hailing giant push through regulatory resistance and turn the controversial startup into a default verb for getting around town, briefly serving as Uber’s US and Canada marketing chief of staff in New York. Later, as c...
Is Starlink eating rural NZ? 27.05.2026 47:30
Starlink has quickly become the hero – and potential hazard – of rural broadband in New Zealand. In a few short years, Elon Musk’s low-Earth orbit satellite service has gone from curiosity to default option for many farms, small towns and remote communities that never made it onto the fibre map. It’s racked up 58,000 subscribers and generated around $100 million in re...
Space Mafia: How orbital AI changes everything 20.05.2026 50:54
Artificial intelligence is no longer confined to the data centres of Silicon Valley or the cloud regions dotted around the world. It is heading into orbit, hitching a ride on satellites and space stations in a way that could transform defence, climate monitoring, disaster response – and the balance of power itself. Starcloud, Google's Project Suncatcher, SpaceX V3 Starlink satellites,...
Power play: Qiulae Wong on R&D, AI, hi-tech skills and tax 13.05.2026 45:14
The Opportunity Party is attracting growing support from young tech professionals, scientists, and startup founders, demanding bolder, more evidence‑based leadership. That’s according to Opportunity party leader Qiulae Wong, the businesswoman, climate leader and mother who will lead the party into the election in a bid to crest the 5% popular vote threshold needed to see the party in a posit...
The Business of Tech: AI is eating market research 06.05.2026 43:09
Market research has long been a privilege of the big end of town. Got $50,000 and six weeks to spare? Great, you can know what your customers think. Everyone else? Good luck. That model is being dismantled, and a New Zealand startup is doing some of the dismantling. In the latest episode of The Business of Tech, I sat down with James Donald, CEO of Auckland-based Ideally, fresh from closing a $16...
Factories in retreat: inside NZ’s deindustrialisation crisis 29.04.2026 45:56
New Zealand is quietly dismantling the productive base that built its prosperity – and we’re doing it without anything resembling a plan. Over the past decade, the country has shed around 20,000 manufacturing jobs while the sector’s share of GDP has steadily eroded. Factories producing everything from pulp and paper to frozen foods and wood products have scaled back or shut down...
How algorithms are quietly rewriting the state 22.04.2026 40:01
Artificial intelligence isn’t coming to the New Zealand public sector – it’s already here. AI is shaping everything from your tax bill to how quickly police process crime reports. And right now, it’s happening in a way that’s fast, fragmented and largely hidden from public view. On the latest episode of The Business of Tech , I talk to BusinessDesk journalist C&...
Why big companies kill good ideas – and how to save them 15.04.2026 49:36
Big organisations love to talk about innovation. They set up labs, hire “transformation” teams, and run hackathons. Yet inside many companies, the best ideas still die in PowerPoint decks or get buried in cautious business cases. In this week’s episode of The Business of Tech, I talk to Gravity cofounder James Boult, an innovation specialist who has spent years inside large...
From Leaf to lunch: the Canterbury startup rethinking protein 08.04.2026 39:52
Forget soy, pea, or lab-grown meat – the next frontier in sustainable food might just be hiding in plain sight. Specifically, in the leaves of everyday plants growing across New Zealand’s farmland. In the latest episode of The Business of Tech podcast, I talk to Ross Milne, the CEO of Rolleston-based startup Leaft Foods, which has pioneered a breakthrough technique to extract and proce...
RUC shock: the future of pay‑per‑kilometre driving 01.04.2026 43:11
New Zealand drivers are about to discover a whole new way of paying to use the roads – and for most, it will be a shock. For decades, petrol and diesel motorists have funded the transport network through fuel excise quietly folded into every litre at the pump - currently a 70c tax. Soon, that largely invisible tax will give way to something much more visible – paying per ki...
How AI is transforming the classroom, with Nadim Nsouli 25.03.2026 35:15
This week on The Business of Tech, I talk to Inspired Education founder Nadim Nsouli to explore a bold experiment in AI‑driven schooling that will reach Auckland primary students from 2027. Inspired Education operates seven ACG private primary schools in New Zealand, including five in Auckland, focusing on personalised learning. A new learning programme, Inspired Edge Academy, compresses the tradi...
Too small is a tech myth – Mehran Gul on NZ’s real advantage 18.03.2026 45:56
Why do some places become tech powerhouses while others, just as smart and connected, stall out? In the latest episode of The Business of Tech, global innovation expert Mehran Gul, a former policy expert at the World Economic Forum, and the United Nations, dispels the myths about where breakthrough technology happens – and gives his take on what New Zealand should do to improve its inn...
AI’s Kiwi gatekeeper inside Microsoft 11.03.2026 32:24
When global giants argue about which AI models are safest, smartest and ready for prime time, a New Zealander in Redmond, Washington is one of the people making the call. Steve Sweetman leads the team at Microsoft's global headquarters deciding which AI models make it onto Microsoft Foundry – the platform that now offers more than 10,000 models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, DeepSeek, Microso...
Australia's new unicorn and its digital twins 04.03.2026 39:41
This week on The Business of Tech, I talk to Neara co‑founder Jack Curtis about how a “physics-based digital twin” of electricity grids is changing the way we plan, build and protect electricity infrastructure – from Taranaki to Texas. Neara has just raised A$90 million in a Series D round led by US investment firm Technology Crossover Ventures (TCV), which also invested in...
Inside the levitation lab: OpenStar’s quest for energy’s Holy Grail 25.02.2026 37:50
A half-tonne metal “donut” silently floating in a vacuum chamber in Wellington might sound like science fiction. But as you’ll hear in the latest episode of The Business of Tech, it’s very real – and it could reshape New Zealand’s role in the global race for nuclear fusion. This week, I sit down with BusinessDesk journalist Greg Hurrell to unpack OpenStar &rsquo...
The OpenClaw moment and what it means for AI 18.02.2026 47:52
OpenClaw is the moment AI stops feeling like a clever chatbot and starts behaving like something closer to a digital co-worker. In the latest episode of The Business of Tech, you’ll hear exactly why. Veteran software developer and AI entrepreneurMike Hall joins me to break down what OpenClaw actually is in plain language. It’s not another prompt-and-response assistant, but a particular...
New Zealand’s energy crunch: Can innovation keep the lights on? 11.02.2026 43:43
New Zealand loves to boast about its clean, green energy story. With around 80 to 90% of grid electricity coming from renewable sources like hydro, wind and geothermal, we look like one of the world’s quiet success cases on decarbonisation. But beneath that headline number lies a much more precarious reality. When lake levels fall and gas supplies tighten, our energy system starts to look ve...
MethaneSAT: Unpacking New Zealand’s $30 Million space gamble 04.02.2026 47:17
In the latest episode of The Business of Tech, we look at the rise and fall of MethaneSAT, the $30 million national space project that was supposed to cement New Zealand as a serious spacefaring nation. Instead, it became a case study in governance failure, misaligned incentives and lost opportunity. Launched in March 2024 and lost in June 2025 after persistent spacecraft glitches, Met...
Robots and the new physical AI gold rush 28.01.2026 56:07
Two Kiwi engineers who helped build the future of self‑driving cars in Silicon Valley are now quietly laying the foundations for the next great tech wave: physical AI. In the latest episode of The Business of Tech, I talk to Harry Mellsop, co‑founder of simulation startup Antioch , and Adrian Macneil, co‑founder and CEO of data platform Foxglove , for a fast‑paced tour of where robotics is r...
Frontier or followers? How NZ can catch up on AI 21.01.2026 39:47
New Zealand likes to see itself as an agile, innovative tech nation. But when it comes to artificial intelligence, the story is more sobering than triumphant. A new survey of 4,000 business leaders from around the world by research group IDC has revealed that just 8% of companies in Australia and New Zealand can be classified as “frontier firms” when it comes to their uptake of A...
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