The Business of Marketing

Recorded live at Advertising Week, John Horsley sits down with Jen Brown. They discuss the limitations of traditional metrics, the importance of long-term brand building, and how marketers can remove friction across the customer journey to unlock real engagement.

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, Justin Cooke speaks with Jackie Ellenby about building distinctive brands, marketing unforgettable experiences, and why the strongest brands compete on uniqueness, not comparison.

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Chris Elsheki, Vice President of Demand Generation at Usercentrics, about privacy-led marketing, building demand engines, and why trust is becoming one of the most important performance signals in B2B.

Live from Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley is joined by Bryan Barletta, founder of Sounds Profitable, for a conversation on the business of podcasting. From creator economics to attribution, audience engagement and the future of the industry, this episode looks at where podcasting is headed next.

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley sits down with Ben Smith, Director of Global Marketing at ReachDesk, to explore how marketing teams are building pipeline, aligning to revenue, and breaking through the noise.

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, this episode sees Justin Cooke in conversation with Andrew McCormick, former Chief Growth Officer at Dentsu X, unpacking how agencies are evolving, what really drives growth, and why outcomes, not outputs, now define success.

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Paul Anderson, Global Chief Creative Director and founding partner at Gravity Global, about the state of B2B creativity, the enduring power of brand, and why big ideas still matter.

In this episode, John Horsley speaks with Jason Warnes about the evolution of digital marketing, why the fundamentals still matter, and how AI is reshaping agencies, creativity and brand building in real time.

In this episode of The Business of Marketing, John Horsley speaks with Gareth Cummings, CEO of eDesk. From early coding on a Commodore 64 to leading a global e-commerce support platform, Gareth shares his views on leadership, resilience, AI, and why customer experience remains central to growth.

John Horsley is joined by Maor Sadra, CEO & Co-Founder of INCRMNTAL, to explore why marketing must move beyond clicks and attribution to measure true business value. A candid conversation on incrementality, leadership, and the future of marketing ROI.

Andrew Bialecki, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Klaviyo, joins John Horsley on The Business of Marketing to explore how consumer CRM is evolving in the age of AI. From bootstrapping to IPO, Andrew shares lessons on autonomy, product-led growth, and the rise of agentic commerce.

Leon Harlow, Group Commercial Director at YMU, breaks down how the creator economy is reshaping entertainment, talent and brand partnerships. He explains why community and trust now beat pure reach, how YouTube has become the new pilot stage for TV, and what brands should prioritise as every platform becomes a video platform.

Google Pixel’s Head of Partner Marketing B2B, Yondjé Choi Cornez, joins John Horsley to explore global partner ecosystems, cultural intelligence and building a DTC Korean nutrition brand alongside a major tech career.  

Senior Director of Marketing at Pantheon, Mitali Israni, joins host John Horsley to unpack revenue marketing, partner ecosystems and why AI is the “new paintbrush” for modern marketers.

San Francisco 49ers EVP Marketing Stephanie Dittmer Rogers dives into the craft of fan experience - from in-stadium entertainment to global growth and the brand philosophy guiding one of the NFL’s most iconic teams.

Apply Digital’s Dennis Claus, Strategy Lead EMEA, explores how brands can turn customers into fans. From sports franchises and global consumer brands to AI, personalisation and the “three Es” of change, Dennis shares a pragmatic view on building digital ecosystems, measuring fandom, and staying focused on what really matters in a world of constant hype.  

ANA’s Greg P. Licciardi, VP Sponsorships & Partner Programs and author of The Holy Grail of Marketing, breaks down his “Holy Grail” framework for modern marketing. From Wendy’s, Harry’s and e.l.f. to AI-driven personalisation and brand purpose, Greg shares how to align the right person, message, timing, environment and outcome – whether you’re a global CMO or a startup watching every dollar.  ...

This episode features Dennis Buchheim, Global Head of GTM for Adtech/Martech, Communications, Media & Entertainment at Snowflake. Dennis brings decades of experience from Yahoo, Microsoft, Meta and IAB Tech Lab to unpack the future of data, AI, identity and measurement - and what the next era of advertising will really look like.  

Jay Prasad, CEO of Relo Metrics, unpacks how AI and computer vision are transforming the way brands measure sponsorships, fan attention and cultural moments across sport, streaming and entertainment. A look at the shift from logo slaps to real, data-driven impact.

This episode features Adam Clyne, Founder & CEO of Coolr, and Mark Lainas, President US, from the social-first agency behind standout work for Burger King, Deliveroo and dozens of major global brands. They share Coolr’s origin story, how culture, creators and platform-native thinking fuel their approach, and why so many CMOs are struggling to keep up as social overtakes traditional media.

Christie Sclater, Clinique’s SVP of Global Marketing, breaks down how the brand continues to evolve through global campaigns, digital acceleration and deep consumer insight. A candid conversation on creativity, modern brand building and what it takes to grow an iconic beauty brand today.

Kevin Hine, CRO at GIPHY, breaks down the shift from the feed era to the chat era, what emotional context teaches us about culture, and how brands can thrive through participation, not visibility.

RTB House’s Charles Simon, Vice President of Private Advertising Standards, discusses how regulation and standards are transforming digital advertising. From GDPR and state-level laws to cryptography, clean rooms and privacy-first measurement, Charles breaks down what’s coming next - and why understanding privacy is now a core superpower for modern marketers.

This episode features Oli Bealby, Partner at Stereo Creative, the culturally charged agency behind work for the San Francisco 49ers, Crocs, and LG. Oli shares his journey from sales to leading Stereo’s U.S. expansion, exploring the intersection of culture, design, and creativity in an AI-driven world, and why tenacity, curiosity, and craft still matter most.      

Yahoo!’s VP of Global B2B Marketing, Sponsorships & Events, Shannon Shae Montoya, explores how experiential marketing creates memories that drive action. From the Yahoo! yodel to Motel Yahoo!, she shares lessons on creativity, partnerships, authenticity, and leading teams through change.