The Business Game
The Business Game
The Business Game The Business Game is not another highlight reel of overnight success. It is a structured, honest breakdown of what it really takes to build, scale, and sustain a business at every level. We built The Business Game around a simple truth: business changes as revenue changes. The problems at $500K are not the problems at $5M. The mindset at $5M is not the mindset at $50M. That is why every conversation is grounded in our 10-Level framework, from Level 1 Startup and Survival through to Level 10 Legacy and Exit. If you are: • Trying to get your first consistent revenue • Buildin...
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Jul 9, 2026
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LEVEL ONE: Property Founder on Why He Walked Away From a $250K Career to Start From Zero 09.07.2026 56:58
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 1: $0M-$1M START UP AND SURVIVAL STAGE In this episode of The Business Game , we sit down with Matthew Nowell , founder of MPAC Property Group, RentFinder Australia, and a new building company focused on cashflow positive investments. Matthew shares how he had a $250,000 leadership role in the mining industry before making the life-changing decision to leave it all behin...
LEVEL THREE: Marketing Veteran on Why Most Founders Burn Out and How to Avoid It 06.07.2026 1:12:32
Send us Fan Mail Level 3: $3-$8M DELEGATION AND EARLY LEADERSHIP On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Phil Ohren , Founder and CEO of Intender , a growth marketing agency on a mission to make advertising useful, not annoying. Like many founders, Phil spent years chasing growth, building teams, serving clients, and pushing for the next milestone. But behind the scene...
LEVEL FOUR: Global Entrepreneur on What the World's Most Successful Founders Have in Common 02.07.2026 49:27
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 4: $8M - $20M GROWING PAINS AND OPERATIONAL COMPLEXITY On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Skye Blanks , Chief Operations Officer at the International Council for Small Business (ICSB) and founder of Herman Todd Consulting Group , to unpack what it really takes to grow a business beyond founder hustle and into something that can scale sustaina...
LEVEL THREE: An Inventor on Exiting Seven Companies, Holding 100 Patents, and Building With AI 29.06.2026 53:52
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 3: $3M - $8M DELEGATION AND EARLY LEADERSHIP On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re joined by Mark Vange , founder and CEO of Autom8ly , a serial tech entrepreneur who has built and sold seven companies, holds more than 100 patents, and has spent decades building at the edge of software, gaming, fintech, and now AI. In this episode, Mark unpacks what founders a...
LEVEL SIX: Pharma Innovator On Franchising, Bootstrapping and Long Term Success 25.06.2026 1:02:18
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 6: $50M – $150M GOVERNANCE, DATA & SERIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Barry Patel , Founder and CEO of Galt Pharmaceuticals , a company redefining how pharmaceutical businesses are built, scaled, and distributed. Starting with no outside investors and bootstrapping his way through one of the world’s most heavily re...
LEVEL 2: Veteran Business Strategist on Why Following Your Competitors Is the Fastest Way to Fail 22.06.2026 1:07:09
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 2: $1M – $3M FIRST TEAM, FIRST SYSTEMS Most founders think scaling is about working harder... but Michael Barbarita learned the opposite. In today's episode of The Business Game , Michael shares lessons from more than 30 years building and operating businesses across retail, manufacturing, finance, and service industries. From growing a retail company from $2.5 milli...
LEVEL TWO: A Software Pro Tells Us Why Claude Is The Best Developer He's Ever Worked With 18.06.2026 48:03
Send us Fan Mail What if the best software developer for your business isn't an agency, a freelancer or even an employee? According to Paul Salvage - Chief AI Officer & founder of Productly - the best developer for your business is... you. In this episode of The Business Game , Paul explains why AI is fundamentally changing software development, why traditional agencies are becoming obs...
LEVEL ONE: AI Growth Expert on the AI Trick That Saves Me Hours Every Week 15.06.2026 55:20
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL TWO: $1M to $5M FIRST TEAMS, FIRST SYSTEMS STAGE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Robyn Anderson , Founder of JAM AI and creator of Club JAM . One of the fastest-growing AI communities helping small business owners actually understand and implement AI into their day-to-day operations. After building 17 different AI courses around tools tha...
LEVEL 3: Second-Generation Agency Leader on Modernising a 60-Year-Old Business Without Ruining It 11.06.2026 1:12:30
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 3: $3M – $8M DELEGATION & EARLY LEADERSHIP STAGE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Chad G. Bauer , owner of SR&B Advertising , a second-generation agency leader navigating the pressure of modernising a 60-year family business without losing the legacy that built it. After stepping into the company founded by his father, Chad realise...
LEVEL TWO: E-Commerce Founder on 10 Million Views, Airport Deals, and Building a Million-Dollar Brand 08.06.2026 55:16
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 1: $0 – $1M STARTUP & SURVIVAL STAGE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Laura Campbell , Founder of Hip Surfer, the Australian baby product brand transforming how parents carry their children. What started as a side hustle during maternity leave quickly became something much bigger. After struggling with chronic pain and finding existi...
Sales Psychologist: Why Sales Get Harder When You Need Them Most 04.06.2026 50:05
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 1: $0 – $1M STARTUP & SURVIVAL STAGE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Ian Stephens , one of Australia’s leading sales psychologists, speaker, author, and performance coach who has worked with businesses in 29 countries around the world Before becoming an internationally recognised sales expert, Ian spent years fighting to keep his busines...
LEVEL TWO: Workplace Culture Expert on Why Bad Employees Are Built By Bad Leadership 01.06.2026 1:01:17
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 2: $1M – $3M FIRST TEAM, FIRST SYSTEMS STAGE On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Dustin Snyder , Founder and Chief Advisor of WayForward , the company helping organisations uncover the hidden behavioural systems driving turnover, disengagement, low performance, and leadership problems inside teams. After leading a 600-person manufacturing tur...
LEVEL THREE: Million-Dollar Book Strategist On How She Went From $3.6Million in Debt to Multi-Millions... In 18 Months 28.05.2026 1:08:39
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL THREE: $3M to $8M: DELEGATION AND EARLY LEADERSHIP On today’s episode of The Business Game, we’re sitting down with Melanie Warner , founder and CEO of Defining Moments Press. After rebuilding from $3.6 million in debt to multi-millions in just 18 months, Melanie has turned personal adversity into a scalable business model that helps entrepreneurs turn books into client...
LEVEL FOUR: Female Construction CEO on Landing $50M+ Projects, Leading Under Pressure, and Empathy on the Job Site 25.05.2026 56:20
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL FOUR: $8M to $20M GROWING PAINS & OPERATIONAL COMPLEXITY On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Melissa Drew , Founder and CEO of InSite BUILD , a construction management firm delivering complex government and institutional projects across the Mid-Atlantic. After a 20-year career leading large-scale construction projects for national contrac...
LEVEL TWO: Construction Expert Tells Us Why Most Projects Fail Before They Start 21.05.2026 1:01:26
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL TWO: $1M to $3M: FIRST TEAMS, FIRST SYSTEMS, FOUNDER LED In today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Mark Story , construction consultant, turnaround specialist, and founder of Commercial Construction Services LLC . For nearly 40 years, Mark has worked on high-stakes construction projects across government infrastructure, stadiums, data centres, an...
LEVEL SIX: Pharmacy CEO On GLP-1s, Peptides, and Growing 800% In 24 Months 18.05.2026 1:12:21
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 6: $50M – $150M GOVERNANCE, DATA & SERIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE In today’s episode of The Business Game, we’re sitting down with Jesse Vidrine , Founder of Vidrine Pharmaceutical Group and President & Co-Owner of Boudreaux’s New Drug Store , a pharmacist-owned compounding pharmacy that has exploded from a small local operation into a national business licensed across 45+ U...
LEVEL ONE: Gender-Free Underwear Founder On Changing An Industry 14.05.2026 47:50
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 1: $0 – $1M STARTUP & SURVIVAL STAGE Andrew Whittle is the Co-Founder of Being Wear, a gender-free, sensory-friendly underwear brand inspired by his daughter’s experience with ASD and ADHD. In this episode, Andrew shares how a personal family challenge turned into a startup, the lessons he’s learned building an early-stage brand, and the realities of trying to grow witho...
LEVEL ONE: The Tech Wunderkind Putting Ads Inside AI Chats 11.05.2026 51:37
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL 1: $0 – $1M STARTUP & SURVIVAL STAGE In today’s episode of The Business Game, we’re sitting down with Andrea Tortella , Founder and CEO of Thrad – the company building advertising infrastructure for AI, placing ads directly inside conversations with large language models. After working at Perplexity and becoming obsessed with the shift from browsing to answers, Andrea re...
LEVEL ONE: A Forensic Scientist Explains Why Your Job Is Traumatizing You 07.05.2026 53:10
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL ONE: $0 to $1M: STARTUP & SURVIVAL STAGE In today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Lori Ana Valentin , analytical chemist, former forensic scientist... and Founder of Radiant Journey, where she helps scientists, engineers, and high-performing professionals navigate burnout, leadership pressure, and the hidden psychological cost of high-stress wo...
LEVEL FIVE: The SEO Strategy Behind a $20M Business 04.05.2026 59:45
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL FIVE: ORGANISER $20M to $50M On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Tim Vipond , Co-Founder and CEO of Corporate Finance Institute, a global education platform training finance professionals in over 200 countries. After building a $20M+ business off the back of SEO and digital distribution, Tim shares how he turned content into a global growth e...
LEVEL SEVEN: “I’ve Seen 80,000 Businesses… Here’s Why Yours Isn’t Making Money” 30.04.2026 1:05:39
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL SEVEN: GLOBAL LEADER $150M to $500M On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Jay Aldebert , Chief Growth Officer at International Services Inc , and a profit strategist who has analysed more than 80,000 privately held businesses over the past 25 years. Having generated billions in consulting outcomes, Jay shares why most business owners don’t actual...
LEVEL FOUR: Climate Change Expert on The $22 TRILLION Housing Crash No One is Ready For 27.04.2026 1:19:34
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL FOUR: SCALE BUILDER $8M to $20M On today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Ben Gilliland, Founder of Future Proof Property Intelligence , a business tackling one of the biggest and fastest-growing threats facing homeowners today: the collision of climate risk and insurance. With over 37 million homes already at extreme risk, and $22 trillion in real...
Viral Beauty Founder: From a 3D Print to Kendall Jenner, 1 BILLION views, and the Daily Mail 23.04.2026 51:10
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL TWO: $1M to $3M: EARLY BUILDER In today’s episode of The Business Game , we’re sitting down with Sarah Forrai , Co-Founder of Contour Cube , the viral tool designed to make facial icing easy and accessible for everyone. With organic endorsement from Kendall Jenner , over 1 billion views on social media, and features in GRAZIA and the Daily Mail , Sarah breaks down for us how...
Coffee Entrepreneur: We Turned $74k Into A $25m Business... And We're Still Growing! 23.04.2026 1:22:10
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL FOUR: SCALE BUILDER What does it actually take to build a business when capital is tight, competition is high, and every mistake gets amplified as you grow? In today's episode of The Business Game , we're chatting with Justin Giuffrida , co-founder and CEO of Citizens , a rapidly growing Australian café brand redefining coffee culture in the United States. In this...
Cybersecurity Expert: Deepfakes, Voice Cloning, and How To Keep Yourself Safe 20.04.2026 1:05:12
Send us Fan Mail LEVEL TWO: EARLY BUILDER What does it actually take to build a business where the biggest risk isn’t your product… but people? In today’s episode of The Business Game, we’re talking to cybersecurity expert Robert Siciliano to break down what’s really happening as AI reshapes fraud, deception, and trust – and why most businesses are completely unprepared for it. Robert tells us t...
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