Jaye & Mark
The Bookseller's Podcast
The Bookseller's Podcast is hosted by Jaye Chin-Dusting from the Mary Martin Bookshops and Mark Rubbo from Readings. Based in Melbourne, Australia, traditionally Wurundjeri country, our podcast is targeted at booksellers with an indie bias. We aim to be informative to anyone interested in the art of bookselling. You can find us on instagram @the_booksellers_podcast
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Episodes
Episode 37: Julie Burland CEO, Penguin Random House Australia 26.05.2026 49:12
Mark and Jaye learn about Julie Burland's original story, how PRH Australia sits within the multi-national organisation, how Australian stories are nurtured within this structure and why she thinks independent bookshops are key. We also discuss fixed book pricing and that very particular headache of our industry, returns.
Episode 36. Meet Corrie Perkin, Founder & Director, Sorrento Writers Festival 22.04.2026 1:21:49
With Sorrento Writers Festival about to embark on its 4th very successful year, it is time to hear from its enigmatic founder and director, Corrie Perkins.
Episode 35: Susannah Bowen: Future-proofing our Australian Indie Bookshops 27.03.2026 52:46
Continuing on from Episode 34 on advoacy and policy-making, we chat with Susannah Bowen, the new CEO of the Australian Bookselling Association. Susannah talks about her background and expertise, her passion for books and her aspirations for not only championing the Australian Indie Bookshop but also her plans to future-proof our sector . Help her help ourselves! We urge all owners, booksellers, au...
Episode 34: Advocacy. Rumbling with Wenona Byrne, Director, Writing Australia 21.03.2026 35:19
Mark and Jaye chat with Wenona Byrne, Director of Writing Australia as to how best booksellers might advocate for ourselves.
Episode 33. 2026 - We're Baaaack! 02.03.2026 30:30
Mark and Jaye catch up with plans for 2026, the 4th Year of the Bookseller's Podcast.
Episode 32: Sandy Grant, Co-founder and Chair of Hardie Grant 05.12.2025 1:13:15
In this final episode of the year, we present a converstaion between Mark and Sandy Grant. Sandy reflects on his (and therefore Hardie Grant's) origin story, the influence and impact of his partner Fiona, the changing publishing landscape and today's trends and realities.
Episode 31: Rapid Round-Up: News in Bookselling World 23.10.2025 40:37
There is so much happening in bookselling world, we thought we would bring you your very own news bulletin, done the friendly Bookseller's Podcast way.
Episode 30: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (behaviours in our bookshops & industry)) 02.10.2025 1:00:11
Booksellers Nina (Verso Books), Lynne (Torquay Books), Heather (Fairfield Books) and Charlotte (Ink Bookshop) freewheel about behaviours seen in our bookshops and the industry and pontificate about how best to manage these.
Episode 29. Brave New World with Mark Fletcher (Tower Systems) 13.08.2025 1:00:11
Mark and Jaye chat with Mark Fletcher, Founder of Tower Systems & Managing Director, newsXpress. The conversation, ostensibly about Tower Systems (software POS provider) meandered into thoughts about the retail space, AI & AI agentics, the morphing newsagent, search engines, optimising online sales, the creative process and much much more.
Episode 28. In Service of the Book (Part 2) 03.08.2025 1:11:25
Jaye speaks with three individuals who have found alternate ways to support the book industry. Come and get to know (better): Kaye Wright (Leading Edge, NSW), Jill Langhammer (Literary Listings, Vic) and Jane Sullivan (Birds of a Feather, Queensland).
Episode 27. Meet Mathilde, French Bookseller from Paris 04.07.2025 48:53
We have been very keen for awhile now to speak to a French Bookseller and Mark has finally had the chance to do so. We learn, directly from the horse's mouth, the pros and cons of being a bookseller in a country with over 3,500 independent bookshops (300 in Paris alone).
Episode 26: 'In Service of the Book' featuring David Gaunt from Gleebooks, Sydney 17.05.2025 1:14:07
Mark has a fireside chat with David Gaunt from Gleebooks. Turn the volume up, find somewhere quiet and listen to this mesmerising conversation from 2 doyens of our industry.
Episode 25. The New Kids on the Block 13.03.2025 49:36
Continuing the theme of chatting with new bookshop owners, Jaye sought out: Alison Arnold from LadyHawke Bookshop. Ivanhoe Lien Giang from Pictures and Pages, Coburg Bella from Head and Tales Bookshop, Barwon Heads. who generously shared their starting pains but all of whom are committed to being in this game for the long haul.
Episode 24. 'For Nature Lovers & Deep Thinkers' 10.03.2025 49:01
Mark Rubbo chews the fat with Alex Caminer who shares he & his partner Chi's vision & ambition for the newly acquired Alternative Bookshop in Bellingen NSW. With the tagline 'for Nature Lovers & Deep Thinkers', the new owners are determined to keep the titles of the books they sell consistent with their ethos of self and global discovery.
Episode 23: Everything you need to know about your (circle)POS & beyond 16.02.2025 58:37
Ever wondered how EDI, Pac-stream, title page and the publishers all talk to your bookshop via your POS system? Didn't even know they did? Well, fasten your seatbelts and lets find out together. To kick off Season 3 we have gone straight into the weeds. The Bookseller's Podcast speak to Matt Lupica, General Manager of the Book Barn in Rosebud and Belgrave, Victoria who is also a trainer for users...
Episode 22: It's a wrap! 09.12.2024 43:24
Mark and Jaye start with intentions to reflect on the year that's been but end up with a session on the books of the season. You can take the bookseller out of the bookshop, but you cannot take the books (to be sold) out of the bookseller! We wish everyone a great season's trade to end the year with a bang!
Episode 21: Special Announcement: The Global Book Crawl 08.11.2024 40:27
It's an Indie Bookshops Call to Arms! We speak to the Global Coordination Team: Federico Lang (Libreria Luces, Malaga, Spain) Brid Conroy (Tertulia Bookshop, Westport, Ireland) Jessica Stockton-Bagnulo (Greenlight Books, Brooklyn, USA) about their genius idea to do activate local bookshop crawls all around the world during one very special week in April 2025. For more information go to www.globalb...
Episode 20. The Art of Indie Bookselling (Curation & Handselling) 30.10.2024 1:18:15
Booksellers talking about bookselling. We cannot think of a more delicious episode. Featuring Anna Low from Potts Point Bookshop, NSW; Jaclyn Cupri from Hill of Content; Melbourne & Matt Davies (2024 Bookseller of the Year) from The Bookshop in Queenscliff.
Jason Steger reflects on his time as Literary Editor of The Age 29.09.2024 1:03:59
Mark and Jaye chat with Jason Steger fresh off his 14 year role as Literary Editor of The Age.
Episode 18: Jan Smedh from The English Bookshop, Sweden 06.09.2024 44:23
The Booksellers Podcast has gone global in this episode featuring Mark's conversation with Jan from The English Bookshop in Sweden. Both booksellers have the distinction of their bookshops being accoladed with the International Excellence Award for Bookstores by the London Book Fair. In a wide ranging discourse, what stands out is Jan's deep passion and respect for his role as indie booksh...
Episode 17. Tea Spilling (and books) 15.08.2024 45:28
Jaye & Mark talk books as they have coffee but spill tea.
Episode 16: Succession 18.07.2024 1:08:12
We say this every time, but this might be our best episode yet. Feauturing Kate Horton (Farrells Bookshop, Mornington Peninsula, Vic), Tim Jarvis (Fullers Bookshop; Hobart) and Joe Rubbo (Readings, Melbourne), we chat with this new generation of bookshop owners and leaders as to the process which got them where they are. More than usual we are very grateful to these guests for sharing their very p...
Episode 15: Selling (or not) your bookshop? Tips from Michael Kerr of Kerr Capital 09.06.2024 58:38
This is the pointy end of owning a bookshop. Whether you are thinking of selling your business, and even if you are not, Mark speaks to Michael Kerr of Kerr Capital and asks all those questions we often wonder. - how much is my bookshop worth? - should stock be in the asking price? - when do I tell staff? - are there alternatives to selling? - what if my successor is a staff or family member? - ho...
Episode 14: Meet Ann Patchett and Lauren Groff. American Indie Bookshop Owners. 13.05.2024 46:21
Jaye and Mark had the immense pleasure and privilege of chatting with best-selling authors Ann Patchett and Lauren Groff who also have the distinction of being indie bookshop owners in the USA. Both conversations were by turns inspirational and jaw-dropping.
Episode 13. Beauty (Children's Bookselling) & the Beast (IYKYK) 25.04.2024 1:02:58
This episode features the best of us - Children's Bookselling. We would like to thank Fran from Escape Hatch Deb from The Younger Sun Erin from The Kid's Bookshop Rachel from Gleebooks for their time and generosity. Before that though, Jaye has a rant.
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