The BETWEEN Podcast

10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. "What if the truth isn't just black or white? What if it’s actually more like… yes and no?" If you’ve ever felt torn between believing and doubting at the same time, you've found the right episode. Reflect...

Is salvation just about saving us from hell... or something deeper? Have you ever wondered what we're really being saved from? We often think of salvation as escaping eternal punishment, but what if it's about something much more personal — like liberation from loneliness, fear, and disconnection? In this chat, Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson explore how the word  Hosanna —literally mea...

10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. Is God really on our side? Or are we just projecting our own beliefs onto the divine? Maybe the issue isn't about sides or winning. It’s about seeing beyond our us-versus-them mentality and recognizing the divine in eve...

10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. When the world feels like it's falling apart, all we want is to hold someone close — but how do we do that without losing ourselves? Let's be real — everything around us seems cracked, from news headlines to our own...

10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, Matt and Dani tackle three real questions shared by folks at a local church that they both serve. Recently that church held a "Puzzle The Pastors" Sunday, and these three big faith questions never...

(Alternative Title: Grow And Become Strong) 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we try to figure out what to do with our faith now that the holiday lights are dwindling, the tree is rotting by the curb, and our spirits are a little less merry and...

(Alternative Title: Don't Punch Your Neighbor In the Throat) 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we capture the essence of love when Rev. Dani Hillyer says, "Don't punch your neighbor in the throat" (or something like that). Love might be the poi...

(Alternate Title: You're So Spiritually Rich, You Have Multiple Homes!) 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we welcome each other HOME . And we explore the elements of a spiritual home. Gosh, we even encourage you to think of yourself as...

(Alternative Title: Mysterious Paintings, Rivers, Togetherness, and Songs... Joy is Harder To Talk About Than We Thought) 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we explore JOY from peculiar angles. We try to dip into a joy that flows far deeper than...

(Alternative Title: Just Say "Peace Be With You" To Everyone You Meet!) 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we win the war on peace! Well, not really. But we do explore whether peace is a default human setting, and how breathing tog...

(Alternative Title: "Hope Rope") 10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions. In this episode, we grapple with the weight of hope. We cast our ropes into the future and attach them to the things that we long for. We consider the flipside of hope. We carry a...

Order Cathedrals of Connection here: https://www.cathedralsofconnection.com In this special episode of The BETWEEN Podcast, semi-regular co-host Dani Hillyer interviews very regular host Matt Mattson about his upcoming book, Cathedrals of Connection . Dani and Matt laugh, joke, and get real about the themes of the book, the sacredness of human connection, and giving people permission to experience...

Prayer. Deeply sacred. Nearly universally practiced. Kind of weird. Strangely secretive for many people. Rarely discussed in public. Prayer. Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson dive deeply into their understanding of and experience with prayer in this episode. How do you pray? Take some time to enjoy this sacred episode exploring the wild and wonderful world of prayer with Matt and Dani.

In this episode of The BETWEN Podcast, host Matt Mattson dives deeply into the mystical and the concrete with author Kevin Sweeney. Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity.  He is the hos...

Are you a prophet? Should people claim to be prophets in today's world? What do the prophets of the ancient times have to teach us about the way we're supposed to be with each other today? Fr. Richard Rohr recently released a new book titled, " The Tears of Things " that Pastor Dani and Matt Mattson discuss in detail on this episode of The BETWEEN Podcast. The book serves as a jumping off point fo...

In this episode of The BETWEEN Podcast, host Matt Mattson and special guest Kate Boyd dive deeply into faith disentanglement, Batman (the dog), the danger of fundamentalism, and the untidiness of our personal and communal faith lives. Kate Boyd helps weary and wounded Christians rebuild their relationship with Scripture and community... and she helps them love God and their neighbors with their wh...

Are you longing for rest? (you're not alone) In this episode Dani reveals that the last time she felt rested was NEARLY A DECADE AGO! And we know she is not the only one who feels like they're rushing through life and always expected to be "on." This episode of The BETWEEN Podcast features co-hosts Matt Mattson and Dani Hillyer doing a deep dive into their relationship (or lackthereof) with REST....

In this episode, regular host Matt Mattson is joined by Dani Hillyer (in her debut on the show as an occasional co-host). Their sacred conversation is a deep dive into the idea of "worship" and whether it can be something we do in every moment. Tune in to receive a spiritual invitation, some new perspectives, and an exploration of how your faith might intersect in new ways with the ways you connec...

Grace E. Kelley is a follower of Jesus, a wife, and mother of five, including a set of boy/girl twins. She graduated from Colorado State University with a Bachelors in Creative Writing and a double emphasis in Poetry and Creative Non-Fiction. She writes poetry and stories — both fictional and non-fictional, and occasionally enjoys the opportunity to speak. She is also a farmer, a foodie, an unrepe...

In this episode of The BETWEEN Podcast, we explore the challenges of sacred connection... especially for men. Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. Shannon’s first book  In the Margins: A Transgender Man’s Journey With Scr...

Welcome to the second season of The BETWEEN Podcast. This short episode features host Matt Mattson encouraging us all to not get sucked into the vortex, the mud pit, the rage machine. We are called to be peacemakers at a time like this. We are called to move our attention away from abstraction and into the up-close-and-personal. If you're new to the podcast, we focus on the intersection of FAI...

In this special episode of The BETWEEN Podcast, host Matt Mattson gets baptized in a coffee shop . Baptism is an incredibly important and meaningful ritual. But the host of this podcast (and the creator of BETWEEN), Matt Mattson, simply had never experienced baptism (he explains why in the intro). What better way to explore the sacredness of simple moments of human connection than to put a holy sa...

Moments of transition in our lives and relationships can be really scary. They can be really sacred too. This short episode of The BETWEEN Podcast features host Matt Mattson offering some thoughts on this season of transition, and the transitions in our lives. This episode also serves as the official conclusion of Season 1 of the show (don't worrry... we're already working on Season 2!) As...

"Our world is hurting and broken. People are divided, disconnected, and lonely. It’s time for a fresh reimagining of what it means to be the Church in our day." -New Wine Collective Website This new episode of The BETWEEN Podcast (the first that includes a video version!) features host Matt Mattson cherishing a sacred conversation with Eugene Kim, founder of New Wine Collective. Eugene i...

This episode features an amazing new author, Jenai Auman having a beautiful and sacred conversation with host, Matt Mattson. Her new book, Othered is for anyone who has felt left out or pushed out of the church, Othered is your invitation to find spiritual rest and belonging in a God who loves, restores, and blesses the outcast and the marginalized. Jenai Auman draws on her experience growing up a...