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The Best of Us
On The Best of Us podcast, we highlight the stories, practices, and tactics of K-12 professional learning leaders working to enhance the educator experience. We speak with educators, researchers, and policy makers about what’s working to drive teacher engagement, practice, and retention and how we can all bring out the best of us.
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Episodes
S4/E9: When You Give Educators the Space to Experiment with AI with Chelsea Waite & Caitrin Wright 07.07.2026 47:12
Chelsea Waite of the Center on Reinventing Public Education and Caitrin Wright of Silicon Schools Fund share what they learned from a cohort of educators who designed and piloted their own AI use cases — and why the most promising results had less to do with efficiency and more to do with strengthening human connection.
S4/E8: Sara Scribner on Rethinking Teacher Prep from the Ground Up 09.06.2026 51:45
Sara Scribner shares how a rural New Hampshire district stopped waiting for special education teachers to arrive and built its own pipeline instead, covering tuition, providing housing, and keeping every graduate in the classroom.
S4/E7: Allie's Rodman's Case for Personalized Professional Learning and Whole Educators 05.05.2026 53:16
How can districts design professional learning that treats teachers as the adult learners they are? In this episode, Allie Rodman—a former teacher, coach, assistant principal, school board member, and author of two books on professional learning—explains why the field has spent a decade building SEL programs for students but never did the same work for the adults in the building. She shares how si...
S4/E6: From Lab Scientist to Learning Designer—How Curiosity and Stories Drive Adult Learning with Nadira Singh 07.04.2026 41:41
What if the key to better professional learning is asking more questions instead of giving more answers? In this episode, Nadira Singh shares how she uses curiosity, empathy interviews, and a scientist's mindset to help educators across 142 schools learn and grow.
S4/E5: When Students Lead the Change—How Voice and Goals Drive Teacher Retention with Katy Meyers 03.02.2026 44:11
When Katy Meyers' first-year teacher announced she was leaving education, Katy flipped the question: instead of asking why teachers quit, she researched what makes them stay. The answer—being heard matters more than being fixed—transformed how she leads, and it applies to students too.
S4/E4: Leading with Vulnerability—Why Self-Doubt Makes Better Leaders with Elizabeth Dampf 06.01.2026 38:55
What if admitting "I'm not sure I'm good enough for this" is actually the most powerful thing a leader can say? Elizabeth Dampf believes that self-doubt isn't a weakness to hide—it's a doorway to better leadership. In this episode, she challenges the myth of the "strong leader" and shares why vulnerability, curiosity, and honest reflection create more effective...
S4/E3: The Success Triangle — 40 Years of Urban District Leadership with Dr. Michael Hinojosa 08.12.2025 51:42
Why do most new superintendents feel overwhelmed by board relations, politics, and finance rather than instruction? In this episode of The Best of Us , Dr. Michael Hinojosa shares his Success Triangle framework for balancing stakeholder relationships, how he developed 50 future superintendents while leading six districts over 40 years, and why incrementalism is innovation's worst enemy in urba...
S4/E2: Teresa Morales-Young on How Fresno Unified Built a Teacher Pipeline That Actually Works 02.11.2025 37:36
Over 15 years, Teresa Morales Young has built something rare in education: a teacher pipeline that actually works. As leader of the Department of Teacher Development at Fresno Unified—California's third-largest district—Teresa has created 12 interconnected pathways that guide educators from high school through their entire career, achieving retention rates that far exceed state averages.
S4/E1: Michael McDowell on How Leaders Can Build Collective Instructional Excellence 30.09.2025 49:10
Why does a student's educational experience depend more on which classroom door they walk through than which school they attend? Educational leader and author Michael McDowell explores how schools can move from tolerating isolated brilliance in individual classrooms to building collective instructional excellence through systematic implementation of high-impact practices.
S3/E12: Learning Labs — How Job-Embedded Professional Learning Transforms Teaching and Learning 20.08.2025 52:17
What happens when professional learning moves from conference rooms into classrooms, with teachers, coaches, and principals learning together in real-time with actual students? In this episode, Elham Kazemi from the University of Washington and Jessica Calabrese, a former principal and district leader, share how Learning Labs revolutionize professional development by embedding it directly into cla...
S3/E11: Taking Things Off Teachers' Plates — How School Leaders Can Combat Burnout Before It Starts 18.08.2025 58:45
What if the solution to teacher burnout isn't asking teachers to fix themselves, but building systems that lighten their load? In this episode, Laura Donnelly and Jill Hanley, co-authors of "What Can I Take Off Your Plate?", challenge the conventional approach to teacher burnout that places the burden on individual educators. Instead of telling overwhelmed teachers to practice more s...
S3/E10: Teacher Agency at Scale — How M3T is Revolutionizing Professional Learning in West Virginia 10.08.2025 44:26
What happens when you give teachers the power to identify their own problems and work together to solve them? In this episode, Joanna Burt-Kinderman and Adam Riazi from the Mountaineer Mathematics Master Teacher (M3T) network share how they've built a statewide system that puts teacher agency at the center of professional learning. Unlike traditional top-down professional development, M3T empowers...
S3/E9: From Lab Bench to White House — Why Steve Robinson Believes in Coaching as Policy 23.06.2025 46:28
How does a molecular biologist-turned-middle school teacher end up shaping national education policy from inside the Obama White House? In this episode, Steve Robinson—a former university professor, public school teacher, and White House education advisor—walks us through his untraditional journey into education and his evolving belief that every teacher deserves ongoing support. From navigating t...
S3/E8: Sneakers on the Ground — How Dr. Tiffany Anderson Leads from the Classroom Up 09.06.2025 43:34
How can a superintendent who teaches middle school weekly—and wears sneakers with suits—transform an entire school district? In this episode, Dr. Tiffany Anderson, Superintendent of Topeka Public Schools and a nationally recognized education leader, shares how embedding leadership within the lived realities of students, families, and teachers can reshape entire systems. As the first Black woman to...
S3/E7: How AI Is Rewriting PD: A Conversation with Dyane Smokorowski 26.05.2025 36:24
How can district leaders use AI to deepen professional learning and reimagine instructional design? In this episode, Dyane Smokorowski, Coordinator of Digital Literacy at Wichita Public Schools, shares how her team supports over 40,000 students by empowering educators to become “learning experience designers.” She explores how AI can enhance clarity, creativity, and connection in both teaching and...
S3/E6: Women in Education Leadership, with Dr. AK Prerara 11.03.2025 35:13
In this episode of The Best of Us, Superintendent of Lancaster ISD Dr. AK Perera shares her journey to educational leadership and the differences between male and female superintendents’ experience. Women make up nearly 75% of the country’s classroom teachers, but only 14% of superintendents. Dr. Perera leveraged her experience into the creation of the Sister Supes Network, an affinity group of fe...
S3/E5 The Equity Trap, with Jennifer Ahn 18.02.2025 42:22
In this episode of The Best of Us, Jennifer Ahn of Lead By Learning delves into collaborative inquiry and professional learning as a critical tool for improving educational outcomes in marginalized populations. The conversation focuses on equity-centered teacher evaluation, which assesses the impact of classroom practices on vulnerable students, and the four “equity traps” Ahn identifies as common...
S3/E4: Supporting Non-Teaching Educators, with Dr. Danica Brown 28.01.2025 37:42
In this episode of The Best of Us, we’re proud to host researcher and educator Dr. Danica Brown to discuss the "hidden half" of educators—non-teaching staff like counselors, instructional coaches, and paraprofessionals. Dr. Brown shares insights from her research on college-going culture in New Orleans high schools, emphasizing the crucial role of collaboration among all school staff to...
S3/E3: Fostering Adult Learning Environments as a Leader, with Dr. Jen Cheatham 07.11.2024 49:55
System-level leaders are charged with evaluating instructional quality and nurturing an environment where teachers can flourish in their careers. But those skills don’t come intuitively: they must be learned. In this episode of The Best of Us, Jeremy and Jen Cheatham delve into Jen's course "Leaders of Learning" at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Dr. Cheatham is an expert on fostering ad...
S3/E2: National Teacher of the Year Missy Testerman on Bottom-Up Educator Leadership 04.09.2024 46:30
In this episode of "The Best of Us," we talk with National Teacher of the Year Missy Testerman, a master educator who gives us a look at teacher professional learning from the classroom perspective. Missy gives us a ground-level look at what makes for excellent teacher PD, sharing insights and telling stories of how school leadership can become courageous leaders for continuous improveme...
S3/E1: Dr. Thomas Guskey on Evaluating Professional Learning 20.08.2024 47:05
On this episode of The Best of Us, we’re honored to talk with Dr. Thomas Guskey, author of Instructional Feedback: The Power, the Promise, the Practice and nationally-renowned expert on education measurement and evaluation. Dr. Guskey’s evaluation framework is an adapted version of the Kirkpatrick four-level model of evaluation used in business fields. Early attempts to apply this model to teacher...
S2/E13: Using Continuous Improvement Science in Schools, with Paola Deliz Felix Encarnación 18.06.2024 41:52
In this episode of The Best of Us , we’re joined by Paola Deliz Felix Encarnación, Vice President of the National Network for School Improvement at City Year and author of “ The Six Principles to Foster Voice and Belonging .” Paola walks us through the ins and outs of City Year’s partnership program, which works with schools on challenges to student success through continuous improvement principle...
S2/E12: Elena Aguilar on Transformational Coaching for Systemic Change 04.06.2024 43:13
In this episode of The Best of Us , we discuss transformational coaching as a key lever for momentum with all-star coach Elena Aguilar . Elena coaches us through exploring beliefs and strategies, connecting with the purpose of the work, and considering perspectives of those across your school district or organization. She also provides practical guidance on applying curiosity and listening skills...
S2/E11: Supporting Teachers Through Building-Level Leadership, with Jen Martin and Jamie Jordan 21.05.2024 47:29
In this episode of The Best of Us , principals Jennifer Martin and Jamie Jordan share how they’ve supported teacher professional learning through their roles as building leaders. They discuss practical strategies for empowering teachers through alignment and autonomy, the importance of differentiating professional learning for teacher needs, and providing voice and choice throughout the PL process...
S2/E10: DEI and the Educator Workforce, with Sharif El-Mekki and Lisa Lachlan 06.05.2024 45:08
We discuss " An Effective Workforce is a Diverse Workforce " with co-authors Sharif El-Mekki and Lisa Lachlan. These two scholars’ work centers on the critical need for diversity in K-12 and practical ways for education leaders to tackle the systemic issues impacting it. The conversation covers the historical context of DEI, the impact of educator shortages on students of color, and the...
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