Jessica Abel

The Autonomous Creative

Business EN ↓ 37 episodes

What does it take to become a successful writer or artist? Go behind the scenes with amazing professional creatives in a wide variety of fields to find out what, exactly, it took for them to be able to quit the day job and build a creative career fully committed to the work they're most passionate about. As a creative yourself, you know that whenever two artists or writers get together, inevitably the conversation turns to, “No, but seriously, how do you do it?” This show is that conversation. And you’re invited.

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Jessica Abel

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Business

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jessicaabel.com

Latest episode

Sep 28, 2025

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Episodes

How to build a self-sustaining creative practice without forced-march “productivity” culture (with Matt Griffin and Shelley Evans).mp3 28.09.2025

“My goal isn’t to win the hours. I want to be present .” — Shelley Evans When a “good career” starts to feel like a bad relationship, walking away is just the start. After you escape the grind, you realize the grind is YOU, and the work has just begun. Shelley and Matt share how crisis-mode and productivity hacks kept them reactive—and what changed when they chose a self‑sustaining creative practi...

From designer to course creator (without a huge audience): Marie Poulin's journey to Notion Mastery 29.07.2025

What happens when you follow your curiosity down an unexpected rabbit hole…and it leads to massive business success? Marie Poulin started as a freelance designer, but her obsession with systems thinking and digital organization evolved into something much bigger. In this candid conversation, she reveals how a side project teaching Notion exploded into a thriving business, and the hard choices and...

How to find clients and build your audience without relying on social media, with Meg Casebolt 11.01.2024

What happens to your business when you take an extended break from social media? Will it fall apart? Wither on the vine? What if the answer is…not much? Meg Casebolt is an SEO expert and the founder of Love at First Search, an agency that helps online businesses get found in search results, and to turn new readers into leads, subscribers and sales. Meg’s business used to be super active on social...

How to quit undercharging for your work, with Rauni Higson 08.12.2023

Do you struggle to figure out how to price your work so that it’s actually profitable for you…and then to actually say that price out loud, without mumbling or undercutting yourself? Do you find yourself rushing to offer a discount BEFORE anyone even asks? On this episode, I’m joined by Rauni Higson, one of Britain’s leading silversmiths. When I first met Rauni, she was chronically undercharging f...

How to make more money without investing more time, with Samantha Clark 19.10.2023

Samantha Clark is an award-winning artist and lauded author who recently transitioned from an academic career to creative coaching. After a year of hitting her income goals and filling her roster with clients, Sam hit a revenue ceiling. Sam realized she needed to earn more—a lot more. Especially if she wanted to build up her savings and plan for retirement. But she didn’t know how to increase her...

How to move from intention to action, with ADHD coach Emily Zilber 23.08.2023

If you have a brain that doesn’t work the way it seems like everyone else’s does, or at least the way people tell you it should, that can be challenging. But can it also be a source of strength. On this episode of the Autonomous Creative, we're talking about neurodiversity and how to identify the tools you need to move from intention to action. I’m joined by Emily Zilber, a curator with twenty yea...

How to end burnout and tap into creative flow, with Gabriela Pereira 27.07.2023

Gabriela Pereira, my friend and the founder of DIY MFA, interviews me about creative flow. I share my strategies for building focus and reducing decision fatigue, and we do a major deep dive into one of my favorite topics: how to end the never-ending cycle of burnout and design a sustainable creative career. More from the episode Tips for transforming your creative practice into a habit you don't...

How to find (and actually talk to) your ideal clients, with Sarah Marie Lacy 23.06.2023

When painter Sarah Marie Lacy decided to double down on portrait commissions as her primary source of income, she was severely undercharging for her work, but had no idea what her prices should be, or who would possibly pay those much-higher prices. Now? Sarah has a six-month waiting list, regularly rubs elbows with CEOs and ambassadors, and is a member of the most exclusive club in Ottawa. In thi...

Stop waiting for permission to be a professional creative, with Henry Thong 30.03.2023

On this episode, I’m joined by award-winning documentary filmmaker Henry Thong for a conversation about courage before confidence. Henry’s entire career is arguably based on his willingness to get out there before he’s “ready.” He began his freelance career right out of high school, skipping film school altogether. He moved from Australia to NY, without a back-up plan, and parlayed his personal su...

How to handle your creative business finances—even if you’re “not a math person,” with Shawn Fink 02.03.2023

On this episode, I’m joined by fellow business strategist and courage coach, Shawn Fink, for a wide-ranging and empathetic conversation about the ****math you need to take control of your creative business. Shawn explains the importance of releasing your fears around business math, and having the courage to achieve your revenue goals. And I reveal how simple math can help you diagnose and close an...

Are you exploiting your own creative labor? with Tara McMullin 02.02.2023

“Self-actualization is not more important than feeding yourself.” In this episode, Tara McMullin helps us understand why solving for your needs first is essential to running any creative business (with your humanity intact). Tara is a writer, podcaster, and producer who used to be a business strategist (among many other things). But in late 2021, she pivoted to focus on her creative work. On this...

Life is more than an endless slog of tasks, with Sarah Von Bargen 19.01.2023

Sarah Von Bargen was a highly productive blogger for 14 years, showed up constantly on Instagram, and had years of success on Pinterest. Sarah also ran several online courses where she helped thousands of people learn to make small, but significant changes to improve their lives. Using a strategic approach to happiness, Sarah recently mapped out a huge transformation in her own life, pivoting from...

Embracing your limits in order to find creative freedom and fulfillment, with Oliver Burkeman 29.12.2022

NYT bestselling author Oliver Burkeman has more than a decade of experience discussing topics like productivity, procrastination, and anxiety in his column for The Guardian newspaper, This Column Will Change Your Life. On this episode, Oliver talks about his game-changing new book, Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management For Mortals, his career path, how he came into the role of productivity expert,...

Discovering your creative system (and the perpetual motion machine), with Austin Kleon 08.12.2022

Austin Kleon is the New York Times bestselling author of a trilogy of books about creativity in the digital age: Steal Like An Artist, Show Your Work! , and Keep Going . Before all of that, he'd been a librarian, a web designer, and an advertising copywriter. Discover Austin’s path to becoming a famous author, how he successfully navigated that pivot, and the vast web of influences that inspire hi...

The need to feel extraordinary, with Alison Bechdel 24.11.2022

Alison Bechdel is an award-winning cartoonist best known for her long-running comic strip, Dykes to Watch Out For, and her autobiographical graphic novel-turned-play, Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic. Discover the inspiration behind Alison’s most recent book, The Secret to to Superhuman Strength, how she’s learning to create healthy relationships with both her work and the humans in her life, and the...

Making the leap from (art) school to pro creative, with Brendan Keen, Mariel Capanna, and Brittany Bennett 11.11.2022

Breaking into a creative field , whether you choose to be self-employed or not, can really leave you feeling like you're up the creek without a paddle. Who are you supposed to talk to, and when? Also, where do you find them? What are you supposed to do in the meantime until things...happen? And once you start doing that thing, how you do know when to stop? We talked about it all at this panel disc...

From full-time teaching to full-time comics, with Gene Luen Yang 27.10.2022

Gene Luen Yang is a prolific cartoonist whose personal work is deeply rooted in the Chinese-American experience. He’s best known for his original graphic novel American Born Chinese, and his work with franchise stories such as Superman and Avatar: The Last Airbender. Hear how Gene went from being a computer engineer and high school teacher to full-time cartoonist and recipient of a MacArthur “geni...

Crazy artists making a living doing what they want to do, with Tomm Moore 25.08.2022

Tomm Moore is an award-winning animator and director, and the co-founder of Cartoon Saloon animation studio in Kilkenny, Ireland. His notable work includes Wolfwalkers , Song of the Sea , and the Secret of Kells, a trilogy of films based on Irish folklore. Discover how Tomm and his partners built Cartoon Saloon from scratch, without any prior business knowledge, in the small city where they grew u...

Pushing the limits of the possible with Josh O'Neill of Beehive Books 03.08.2022

Josh O’Neill is a comics writer and editor, and co-owner of the Philadelphia-based publishing company, Beehive Books. Using Kickstarter, Josh and his business partner Maëlle Doliveux, publish books and literary objects too risky for traditional publishers. Josh shares what inspired him to pursue publishing, and how crowdfunding allows Beehive to create art that’s for and by their community. More f...

Running a creative business on your own terms, with Jenna Weiss-Berman 22.07.2022

In 2016, Jenna Weiss-Berman quit her job and decided to launch her own podcast company a month before her first child was born. It was an almost immediate success, and Pineapple Street Studios never took an outside investment. Jenna explains what prompted her risky career leap, and how she taught herself to run a business—on her own terms. More from the episode… Jenna explains how she got her star...

Boundaries, balance, and burnout, with Shannon Wright 30.06.2022

At only twenty-seven, our guest Shannon Wright has already had one helluva career. Shannon’s work has been featured by outlets like NPR, The Nib, and the New York Times. She’s illustrated several successful children’s books, and her debut graphic novel, Twins , a collaboration with Varian Johnson, was released in 2020. In this interview, Shannon breaks down how she got to where she is today, descr...

Writing 1.3 million words (and learning how to slow down), with Sonia Simone 16.06.2022

“Why not put your best stuff in front of the biggest room?” On this episode, I’m joined by writer, marketer, teacher, and Creative Focus Workshop alumni, Sonia Simone. Sonia goes into detail about her two major career pivots, including how she went from “fan-girl” to founding partner at Rainmaker Digital, formerly CopyBlogger Media. She describes the moment she realized she was “burnt to a crisp”,...

Nurturing your creative ecosystem, with Didier William 02.06.2022

In this episode, I’m joined by contemporary painter and printmaker Didier William. Didier’s incredible work explores the diasporan experience, as well as what it was like to grow up gay in a conservative Haitian community. Over the past five years, Didier has had massive success in the contemporary art world. In this interview, we discuss his personal parameters for success, how he protects the sa...

How to protect your creative time, with Myla Goldberg 19.05.2022

“You have to protect that time because no one's going to protect it for you, and no one's going to give it to you. Only you can give it to you.” On this episode, I’m joined by my long-time friend, novelist Myla Goldberg. In 2000, Myla found breakout success with her best selling debut novel, Bee Season. Myla walks me through the novel’s journey — how it landed in the hands of a literary agent’s as...

Creative problem solving and creative self-care, with Victoria Lansford 07.04.2022

On this episode of the Autonomous Creative, I’m joined by metalsmith, Victoria Lansford. Victoria specializes in old world metalsmithing techniques, like Russian Filigree and Eastern Repoussé, and passes these skills onto others through her many workshops and videos. Victoria calls creative problem solving her ‘ultimate superpower’, and she’s hardly exaggerating. Whether she’s developing new ways...

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