The Angus & Pete Show CX Podcast

In Series 2, Episode 8, Angus and Pete explore the critical challenge of technology adoption in customer engagement: simply launching tools isn't enough. By examining human psychology and the "Technology Acceptance Model," they provide a roadmap for turning hesitant users into champions, ensuring long-term ROI and customer retention in the subscription era. **The Subscription Risk Shift:** Modern...

In this episode, Angus and Pete explore customer engagement trends for 2026 and 2027. They discuss how AI is transitioning from an experiment to a strategic necessity, forcing businesses to re-architect their operations. From hyper-personalisation to the rise of AI-native companies, the hosts analyse how brands must balance efficiency with emotional loyalty and ethical practices to survive a predi...

Welcome to Series 2, Episode 6! Angus and Pete explore the dreaded Change Freeze, a vital IT strategy often implemented during peak periods like Christmas. The discussion was prompted by a listener who had a travel nightmare due to a systems upgrade that went wrong during the busiest time of the year. The hosts delve into what the freeze is, why it's critical for service stability, and how poor pl...

This episode features CX Insider Rich, a Commercial and Strategy Product Manager, who details his demanding role. He argues that solid process trumps technology and criticizes the industry’s focus on building complex "Swiss Army knives" without ensuring they are consumable and adopted. Rich also highlights the extreme difficulty of building viable business cases amidst the risky, unclear pass-thro...

This episode of The Angus and Pete Show reviewed the recent CC Expo and tackled two major press articles concerning the state of AI adoption in the industry. The core discussion centred on the acknowledgment of the "hype" surrounding AI, the necessity of delivering real business value, and the critical importance of moving contact centres from perceived cost burdens to recognized revenue generator...

In this episode of the Angus and Pete Show, we talk about customer engagement and the painful disconnect many people feel when dealing with companies. Drawing on reports from Contact Babel, we discuss why technology alone can't fix customer experience. The real secret is empathy and focusing on core customer needs: speed, convenience, and the human touch. We also look at the massive financial stak...

Angus, Pete, and the highly experienced Uncle Ken, provide a sharp critique of the current state of the CX and Contact Centre industry. The key takeaway is that the constant "noise and burbling about artificial intelligence" is causing fragmentation and distracting the industry from crucial basics. The hosts and Ken conclude that high turnover among contact centre managers, combined with sellers w...

Welcome back to The Angus and Pete Show for Series 2. Angus and Pete tackle "A is for Adoption" in this episode. Everyone's building or buying contact center tech, but driving user adoption is the hard part. They discuss why many deployments fail: it’s not just tech, it’s organizational change, managerial vision, and employee willingness. We need to focus on Time to Value (TtV), which means delive...

In this recap, Angus and Pete look at the real story behind AI in the world of customer engagement. They discuss a study that found AI isn’t taking jobs but is creating new tasks for workers. The conversation also covers how AI is changing the way we measure customer service. It’s becoming less about speed and more about making things easy for the customer. They finish by talking about the often-o...

In this recap of season one, Angus and Pete explore why a seemingly perfect sales proposal can get rejected at the final hurdle: the boardroom. They discuss the common pitfalls sellers face and offer a guide on how to equip your internal champions to successfully navigate the C-suite, especially the CFO. The Champion's Dilemma: Never assume your internal champion can effectively sell your solution...

We revisit our conversations on customer engagement, CX, and industry analysts. We focus the first of our CX Insider guests, Steve, a former Gartner analyst. He shared his views on the real purpose of analysts, the work behind Magic Quadrants, and how analyst events have changed. Steve's "three wishes" give great advice for the CX industry and beyond. We reinforce that bringing people and operatio...

Angus and Pete revisit their "RFP Trilogy" (Episodes 5–7) with bonus insights from CX6 insider Terry (Episode 21). RFPs in a Nutshell: RFPs are structured buying processes designed for transparency, competition, and clarity. For Buyers: You’re selling too—make the opportunity attractive. Set clear goals, engage stakeholders, and publish evaluation criteria. Communicate well and stick to timelines....

In the first of the Season 1 recaps, Angus and Pete reveal what CX buyers really want and how to stand out in the riveting world of customer engagement sales. Learn to focus on the buyer's journey, not your own sales process. Simplify your message by offering clear recommendations and limiting options, as too many choices lead to confusion. Use compelling stories instead of bullet points to help b...

Welcome to Episode 30 of The Angus and Pete Show. This special episode serves as a comprehensive recap of the first 29 episodes. The idea was inspired by avid listener Cyrille from Nairobi, who found episode recaps useful for weekly podcasts to revisit content or catch up on missed episodes. Finding their own back catalogue "heavy going," Angus and Pete enlisted their friendly AI assistant to summ...

In this episode, your hosts Angus Peacey and Pete Brown delve into three compelling news articles from 10th June, exploring the dynamic interplay between humans and Artificial Intelligence (AI) in customer service, contact centres, and customer experience (CX) News Topics Dissected: The Human Touch in AI Assistants: Drawing on an article from Fast Company titled "AI Assistants Still Need a Human T...

Curious how software products successfully reach customers? Episode 27 of The Angus and Pete Show tackles a listener's dilemma: defining the different go-to-market roles in a software vendor. Angus and Pete break down key functions, from product strategy and channel partnerships to sales enablement, especially for SaaS products with reseller channels. Learn why clear ownership, consistent messagin...

In this episode, Angus and Pete focus on the significance of sales propositions, brand perception, and the shift from product-centric to proposition-centric strategies. They discuss how understanding the differences between brand, product, and proposition can enhance marketing efforts and drive sales. The conversation emphasizes the importance of crafting compelling propositions that resonate with...

In this episode, Angus and Pete talk to Phil about his extensive experience in sales engineering. He emphasizes the evolution of the sales engineer's role, the importance of understanding customer needs, and the critical nature of collaboration with product management. The conversation also covers the significance of demos, navigating RFPs, and the training and development of sales engineers. Phil...

In this episode, Angus and Pete discuss the evolution and current state of dialers in CX and contact centers. They cover a bit of background, the various modes of dialing, the impact of digital channels on customer communication, and the integration of outbound voice and digital strategies to enhance customer experience. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding regulations and t...

In this episode, Angus and Pete look at the impact AI is really having on the CX industry and people, jobs and the customer experience. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of current capabilities and the challenges faced in data management and legal considerations. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of a strategic approach to AI in customer engagement encompassing...

In this episode, Angus and Pete focus on the critical role of CFOs in evaluating business proposals. The conversation highlights the need for CX and Contact Centre sellers to articulate their proposals in a way that resonates with financial stakeholders, ensuring that all aspects of a project are thoroughly considered before seeking approval. Takeaways Highlight Strategic Alignment: Clearly demons...

In this conversation, Terry shares his extensive experience in CX and Contact Centre sales, particularly in the public sector. He discusses the differences between public and private sector sales, the intricacies of the RFP process, and the importance of understanding the bidding landscape. Terry emphasizes the need for honesty in the procurement process and the significance of social value in pub...

In this episode, Angus and Pete, focus on the discovery process in sales. They discuss the importance of understanding customer pain points, engaging multiple stakeholders, and the role of technology and AI in enhancing customer experience. The conversation emphasizes the need for thoughtful questioning and effective stakeholder management to ensure successful outcomes in sales processes. Takeaway...

In this episode, Angus and Pete talk to CX Insider Dan, a seasoned expert in contact centres and customer experience operations management. They discuss the evolution of customer service, especially in the post-COVID landscape. They explore the challenges faced by customer service operations, the impact of data transparency, the importance of agent wellness and the role of leadership in fostering...

In this episode, Angus and Pete focus on the critical role of demos in the buying process. They discuss various types of demos, their appropriate applications, and the importance of tailoring presentations to the audience. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective communication, storytelling, and understanding the buyer's journey to enhance customer experience and drive sales success. Tak...