Agile For Agilists
The Agile For Agilists Podcast
The Agile For Agilists Podcast is a side project for hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson. They hold open discussions, share anecdotes, and provide guidance from their own personal experiences. Listeners can expect soap box moments, thinking out loud, and guest speakers, but most of all, listeners will leave with a better understanding of the complex world of Agile Software Development.
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Jul 21, 2025
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Episodes
Your Brain on Agile: Practical Neuroscience with Alex Korb, PhD 21.07.2025 1:15:44
On this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast , Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson sit down with Dr. Alex Korb, PhD —neuroscientist, coach, and author of The Upward Spiral —to explore how your brain is wired, and how understanding that wiring can unlock better focus, performance, and well-being. We dive into how autonomy , motivation , and neurotransmitters (like dopamine and serotonin) shape the way...
An Agile Retrospective: Culture, Control, and Purpose with Todd Hallowell 27.05.2025 59:18
On this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast , Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson are joined once again by Todd Hallowell for a candid conversation about the current state of Agile and what it really means to practice agility in today’s organizations. Together, we unpack the tension between traditional project management approaches and true Agile thinking—exploring the fallacy of control, the evolvi...
Of Bears, Brains, and Building Trust with Mike Bowler 22.04.2025 1:12:13
In this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast , hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson welcome seasoned Agile coach and trainer Mike Bowler to talk about psychological safety —through the fascinating lens of brain science, leadership, hypnosis, and LEGO . Mike explains why our brains are wired to react to uncertainty like it’s a bear attack—and what leaders can do to create environments that feel s...
How Scientific Thinking Cultivates Agility with Kelly Mallery 31.03.2025 1:10:23
On this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast , hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson sit down with Operational Excellence Leader and Kata Coach Kelly Mallery—along with her loyal (and squeaky-toy-loving) dog, Osiris—to explore the power of scientific thinking in the business world. Kelly unpacks how practices rooted in Toyota Kata and Lean thinking help teams move beyond checking boxes and instea...
Timeless Agile Principles and the Future of Work with Andrew Clay Shafer 10.12.2024 1:15:20
In this episode of The Agile For Agilists Podcast , hosts Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal sit down with Andrew Clay Shafer, a luminary in software development, entrepreneurship, and the DevOps movement. Together, they explore how Agile principles have existed long before the Agile Manifesto, diving into the history of Sociotechnical Systems and how these timeless practices shape successful organizatio...
Cybersecurity in Agile: How DevSecOps is Securing the Future with Warner Moore 15.10.2024 1:13:47
In this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast, we're joined by Warner Moore, experienced Chief Security Office (CSO) and founder of Gamma Force, a company dedicated to building strategic cybersecurity and technology capabilities. Warner brings his expertise to explore how modern development practices like DevSecOps are making organizations more secure than ever before. Discover how Agile pract...
Measuring What Matters: Metrics, Assessments, and Leadership with Joan Gammon 28.08.2024 1:06:48
In this episode of The Agile For Agilists Podcast, we're thrilled to have special guest Joan Gammon join us for a deep dive into the metrics that truly matter. Together, we'll explore how to effectively assess performance, foster impactful leadership, and cut through the noise to focus on what really drives success. Brad in this episode is extra bleak, while Drew tries to keep things livel...
Measuring the Agile Mindset with Brian Link 22.07.2024 1:11:47
In this episode of "The Agile For Agilists Podcast," Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal are joined by Brian Link to discuss his innovative "Agile Coach in a Box." This interactive book and maturity model companion is designed to align with the agile mindset and is infused with concepts from Lean, XP, Design Thinking, DevOps, and Systems Thinking, enabling teams to inspect how their be...
A Retrospection on Leadership with Esther Derby 08.07.2024 1:10:56
Join hosts Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal as they welcome the esteemed Esther Derby, renowned for her work on retrospectives and her deep insights into leadership. In this episode, they delve into the evolution of management practices, reflecting on the dark past of traditional approaches and how they have shaped modern leadership paradigms. Esther shares her profound wisdom on fostering effective le...
Agile's Missing Link: Technical Excellence with James Grenning 24.06.2024 1:08:10
Join hosts Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal on The Agile For Agilists Podcast as they are joined by James Grenning, one of the original authors of the Agile Manifesto and one of the first Agile coaches. In this compelling episode, James delves deep into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of Agile: technical excellence. James discusses the essential role of technical practices in Agile, emphasizing...
The Agile Manifesto Director's Cut: Jon Kern Shares His Agile Secrets 08.05.2024 1:11:00
Join hosts Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal on The Agile For Agilists Podcast for a distinguished episode featuring special guest Jon Kern, one of the authors of the Agile Manifesto and a self-proclaimed process and value nut. In this insightful conversation, Jon delves into the fundamental value of prioritizing people over process, emphasizing that people are the most important and challenging part to...
Why Every Company Should Have A Chief Agile Officer featuring Larry Apke 06.12.2023 1:05:09
Join hosts Drew and Brad in a captivating episode of the Agile For Agilists Podcast as they welcome author Larry Apke. In this insightful conversation, Larry delves into the intriguing concept of a Chief Agile Officer and introduces Apke's First Law, offering valuable insights from his extensive experience. He shares compelling details about his innovative VUCA MBA and sheds light on the profo...
Vision Check: Aligning Aspirations with Achievement featuring Quincy Jordan 15.11.2023 1:01:00
Embark on a journey of visionary exploration with this lively episode of The Agile For Agilists Podcast. Join hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson, alongside special guest Quincy Jordan, VP of Agility at AgileThought, as they delve into the critical importance of defining, understanding, and communicating your vision. Discover why a well-defined vision is the foundation that precedes the identificati...
Are Agile Coaches Really Coaches? Examining the "Coach" Suffix with Holly Acre 25.10.2023 56:24
In this episode of the "Agile for Agilists Podcast," hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson sit down with special guest Holly Acre, a public school teacher turned Sales Enablement Coach with a unique twist — she applies Agile and scrum principles to her performance coaching practice. The conversation takes a deep dive into the intriguing intersection of Agile methodologies and professional co...
Irony 101: Agile Coaching, Just Not in Agile Quarters with Returning Guest Ken Rickard 13.10.2023 59:41
In our recent deep-dive on 'The Agile for Agilists Podcast', Brad Nelson, Drew Podwal, and the ever-insightful returning guest, Ken Rickard tackle a captivating irony: "Agile Coaches Rarely Work in Agile Environments." Together we ponder the unique challenges coaches face, emphasizing the need for heightened patience, focus, and a profound level of acceptance. Why? To meet organi...
Are You Overlooking Agile's Best Kept Secret? Unleash the Power of Learning on the Fly with Jon Fazzaro 27.09.2023 1:08:43
Listen in as we navigate through a range of insightful topics in this dynamic conversation with Agile coach, John Fazzaro. We tackle the crucial idea of not knowing the value of our work until it's complete and in use, stressing the need to place faith in "why" our work is valuable rather than faith that if our work was given to us that it must be valuable. Agile practices are discus...
From Vision to Victory: Defining Success in a Changing Landscape with Dom Michalec 13.09.2023 1:10:28
Welcome to a fresh season of The Agile For Agilists Podcast! We're thrilled to have Dom Michalec back as our guest, bringing his wealth of knowledge in behavior design and product management. In this episode, we dive deep into a fundamental but often underestimated aspect of any endeavor – defining success. Dom guides us through essential topics like coaching agreements, securing buy-in, and b...
Daniel Vacanti Breaks the Kanban Code: The Underrated Impact of Flow Metrics 20.07.2023 1:03:51
In this eye-opening episode, we are joined by Daniel Vacanti, a co-founder of ProKanban and Actionable Agile, to discuss the merits of Agile, Kanban, and Lean principles. Vacanti takes a fresh look at these methodologies, challenging our understanding and revealing some lesser-known aspects. We explore the concept of timeboxing in Agile and discuss whether it adds value or merely complexity. Vacan...
Revolutionizing Change: Breaking the Mold with Lean Change, featuring Author Jason Little and Trainer/Coach Ken Rickard 05.07.2023 1:10:00
In this exciting episode of The Agile For Agilists Podcast, hosts Drew and Brad are joined by two esteemed guests, author Jason Little and trainer/coach Ken Rickard, to explore the fascinating world of lean change and enterprise coaching. Together, they delve into the principles and practices of lean change management and its potential to revolutionize organizational transformation. Jason Little,...
An Epic Adventure of Agile Transformation: Discover the Path to Agility with Agile Velocity coach, Andy Cleff 20.06.2023 1:03:05
In this enlightening episode of "The Agile For Agilists Podcast," our esteemed guest, Andy Cleff, an agile transformation coach at Agile Velocity and co-founder/host of the "Agile Uprising Podcast," leads Brad and Drew on an eye-opening journey down the Path to Agility. The Path to Agility, a methodology developed by Agile Velocity, transcends frameworks and emphasizes achievin...
How Ford Credit is Investing in ProdOps to Build a Strategic Advantage with Kevin McClure 30.05.2023 55:00
Ever wondered how creativity and collaboration can ignite your professional journey? We had a blast chatting with our longtime friend, Kevin McClure, Senior Manager in the Digital Experience team at Ford Motor Credit. He revealed the fascinating story of how he transitioned from a finance degree and sales career to a product manager, rekindling his creative spark along the way. In this riveting co...
Breaking Agile Boundaries: Behavior Design Unleashed for Agile Transformations with Dom Michalec 16.05.2023 1:15:44
Welcome to another exciting episode of "The Agile For Agilists Podcast" hosted by Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal. In this episode, we have the pleasure of welcoming our special guest, behavioral design and product coach, Dom Michalec. Join us as we explore the elements of behavioral design and how this method can unlock the potential within your teams and revolutionize the way agile coaches...
Story Points vs. No Estimates: A Battle of Agile Philosophies - With Amanda Rae Arseneau 02.05.2023 1:16:06
The long-awaited Agile showdown is finally here, Story Points vs No Estimates! Amanda Rae Arseneau is back to team up with co-host Brad Nelson to go head-to-head with Drew Podwal, in a debate that you won’t want to miss! The discussion gets heated as Drew argues in favor of story points, emphasizing the benefits of having a shared language enabling alignment between technical and non-technical me...
The Startup Secret Sauce: How Enterprise Companies Can Benefit from the Startup Mentality with Elizabeth O'Neill 18.04.2023 1:08:08
Are you tired of office politics and personality clashes standing in the way of your team's or organization's growth of Agile capabilities? In this episode we discuss how to navigate workplace friction reveal how examining startup culture can provide valuable insights for accelerating the delivery of value in larger organizations. Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal sit down with Organizational Fi...
Accelerate Your Delivery with FAST Agile: Tips and Tricks from FAST Founder Ron Quartel and Agile Coach Todd Hallowell 04.04.2023 1:10:46
In this episode, we're joined by Ron Quartel, the mastermind behind the FAST Agile methodology, and Todd Hallowell, an agile expert who's already making waves with FAST. Ron delves into the ins and outs of Fluid Scaling Technology (FAST) and describes how it leverages the concept of Open Spaces as a way to encourage collaboration, communication, and self-organization among team members. Ron provid...
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