The AAAi Podcast

What happens when discovery becomes too large for any lawyer, or even any team, to meaningfully review?  In Episode 21 of the AAAi Podcast, Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz speak with Ariel Deshe, founder of TrialKit, about the criminal defense case that led him to build the platform and what it reveals about the future of legal AI.  The conversation explores the sheer volume of modern discov...

In this episode of the AAAi Podcast, Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz record live from Legalweek in New York to explore a clear shift in legal AI. The risk of not moving is now greater than the risk of moving.    AI is no longer theoretical, and whether it works is no longer the question. The focus has shifted to how to deploy it in a way that builds trust and scales safely.     That is where...

In Episode 19 of the AAAi Podcast, hosts Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz discuss why the AI Arbitrator is gaining mainstream attention and why governance, not hype, is the real driver of AI adoption. They examine why technology is now the primary strategic focus for 38% of CLOs, unpack the "Walmart model" of intelligent application, and explain how the American Arbitration Association is usi...

Legal tech is starting to shift from AI-enhanced tools that help lawyers work faster to AI-native systems that change how legal work gets done. In this episode of the AAAi Podcast, Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz are joined by Bob Ambrogi, the founder of LawSites and host of the LawNext podcast, and Timo Karakashev, founder of Cosmonauts, to explore what this shift looks like heading into 20...

The American Arbitration Association (AAA) launched its AI Arbitrator in November 2025, and AAAi Podcast hosts Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz sit down with Frank Rossi, AAA COO and CRO, to take listeners inside the project. They explore how the AAA's legacy of trust, neutrality, and innovation shaped the development of the AI Arbitrator, and why the AAA was uniquely positioned to build the...

What if the real ROI of legal AI isn't efficiency, but lawyer happiness? Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz talk with Farah Gasmi, cofounder and Chief Product Officer of Dioptra, about making contracts less painful with AI. Farah shares how Dioptra helps lawyers get "in the zone," why usable outputs matter more than speed, and how partnering with the AAA adds the trust lawyers need to rely on A...

Recorded live at Legalweek 2025 back in March, this episode asks a simple question: What happens when a veteran of CBS, Paramount, and Fortune steps into the world of arbitration? Bridget and Zach talk with AAA's new CMO Michael Joseloff about why legal's "business as usual" days are over, what lessons from media's disruption matter now, and how telling the right story builds trust when half a mil...

In Episode 14 of the AAAi Podcast, Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz sit down with Jennifer Leonard, Chief Innovation Officer at Penn Carey Law and founder of Creative Lawyers. Drawing on her work in legal ethics and education, Jennifer explains why the legal profession does not just need new tools. It needs a new operating system. The conversation covers the limits of traditional training, th...

What if the biggest legal risk today is institutional memory loss? Bridget and Zach talk with Sean West, author of  Unruly  and cofounder of Hence Technologies, about how geopolitical instability, AI disruption, and legal short-termism are converging. He explains why the future of dispute resolution depends on preserving memory, rethinking incentives, and acting before the storm hits. This episode...

Bridget and Zach talk with Richard Susskind about his new book, How to Think About AI, and what AI means for the future of courts, lawyers, and justice. Richard challenges the legal profession's deep resistance to change and asks: what if access to justice mattered more than preserving legal work as we know it?   LinkedIn: ⁠ linkedin.com/in/richardsusskind/ ⁠ X ⁠ : @richardsusskind ⁠ Amazon ⁠ : Ho...

What if lawyers didn't have to settle for chatbots? Bridget and Zach talk with Ryan Samii, Head of Legal at Hebbia.ai, about building the AI infrastructure legal teams actually want. He explains why Hebbia ditched chat for a grid—and how acting fast beats waiting for perfect. This episode is a playbook for smart risk, bold design, and legal teams who don't wait to get started.

Bridget and Zach talk with Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jaqueline Schafer. In this episode of The AAAi Podcast, we trace how a podcast conversation turned into a strategic partnership. It's a case study in building trust, piloting with purpose, and quietly rewriting what it means to be the global authority in dispute resolution.

Bridget and Zach talk with Maged and Carrie about building legal AI that actually works. Maged shares how Newcode was designed to meet the realities of practice - modular, secure, and deployed where the data lives. Carrie explains how her firm is built to empower clients to solve problems themselves, even if that means working herself out of a job.

Bridget and Zach talk with David Lat, founder of Original Jurisdiction and Above the Law. David shares what lawyers' lawyers are saying about AI, regulatory challenges, client demands, and their impact on the future of law and dispute resolution.

Bridget and Zach speak with Darth Vaughn and Whitney Stefko Dover from Ford Motor Company about AI's impact on in-house counsel and how it's reshaping legal operations and change management.  

Bridget and Zach talk with Adam Unikowsky, about his article "In AI We Trust, Part II," where AI adjudicates every Supreme Court case. They explore how AI tools are rapidly advancing and their impact on the law.   "In AI We Trust, Part II" https://adamunikowsky. substack.com/p/in-ai-we-trust- part-ii  

At Future Lawyer USA in Boston, Zach and Bridget talk with Colin Rule on stage in Boston at Future Lawyer USA about the AAA's acquisition of his company ODR.com, the AAA's first acquisition of a tech company in its nearly 100 year history.  

 At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk about the power and limitations of large language models with LegalMation founder James Lee.

 At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk with ex-litigator and Clearbrief founder Jacqueline Schafer about how large language models are changing the game for legal tech.

Bridget and Zach talk with AAA's CIO Diana Didia about how AAA is leaning into AI with multiple initiatives across the organization.

At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach unveil the mission statement of their newly launched podcast and discuss why the AI revolution matters.