David Nelson, Ed.D., and Rashi Shukla, Ph.D.

The "33": Methamphetamine: A Love Story

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The podcasts explores the dark and hidden lives of "33" men and women who were users, dealers or manufacturers of meth. In addition to the "33" men and women Dr. Shukla interviewed for her book, there are special episodes that include academic scholars, mental health and medical professionals and those of the legal system. Host and Professor, Dr. David Nelson, Ed. D. and author of the book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story," Dr. Rashi Shukla, Ph. D., discuss the topic of meth addiction in Oklahoma.

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David Nelson, Ed.D., and Rashi Shukla, Ph.D.

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Education

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Jun 24, 2026

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S5: E10: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Troy"--dealer, user and cook. 24.06.2026

In this episode, we provide an update on Oklahoma House Bill 3304 from the bill’s author and discuss the story of Troy, one of the 33 individuals interviewed by Dr. Rashi Shukla for her book Methamphetamine: A Love Story . Troy’s journey through addiction led him from manufacturing, dealing, and using methamphetamine to losing everything he had. After four arrests and time spent in jail, Troy reac...

S5: E9: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. An interview with Candy Schwartz, Part 2 18.05.2026

This is Part 2 of our interview with Candy Schwartz, who tragically lost her father in a devastating collision at an intersection in Oklahoma. The accident was caused by a commercial truck driver under the influence of methamphetamines. In this episode, Candy also shares her journey of joining VOIDOK.org, a nonprofit organization dedicated to supporting victims. She concludes the podcast with some...

S5: E8: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. An interview with Candy Schwartz 27.04.2026

This is Part 1 of our interview with Candy Schwartz, whose father was tragically killed in an intersection collision with a semi-truck. The driver of the truck was impaired, under the influence of methamphetamine. Candy shares her powerful story of loss, her mission to honor her father’s memory, and how that experience inspired her to take action. Motivated by her grief and determination, she help...

S5: E7: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: "Ray"--"It was never about the money for me..." 26.03.2026

"Ray" was a 35-year-old recovering meth addict who had also been manufacturing and dealing the drug prior to meeting Dr. Shukla. He had lost everything to his addiction. In his interview he shared how his addiction began, when he first started using drugs, and how it eventually led him to cooking and selling meth while using it himself just to keep up with his habit. Ray also shared what frightene...

S5: E6: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: "Conner"--Bad thing about being off meth is that life seems boring." 25.02.2026

At 24, Conner was deeply entrenched in the drug world—using, manufacturing, and dealing—making tens of thousands of dollars a day and even setting money aside to pay attorneys to stay out of jail. By 38, his life looked very different. Now in recovery, he sits down with Dr. Rashi Shukla to speak candidly about his addiction, the lifestyle that consumed him, and the long road back. This episode exp...

S5: E5: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Part 2. "D" shares his story of addiction and recovery 14.01.2026

This episode is a wrap of Dr. Shukla's interview with "D" regarding his addiction, his home life and how he found a path to recovery.

S5: E4: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Part 1. "D" shares his story of addiction and recovery 22.12.2025

This podcast features the story of a former addict--whom we call "D"-- whose substance use began with alcohol in his early life and escalated to illicit drugs, resulting in a full-blown addiction. He described a difficult childhood with alcoholic parents. His path to recovery began after being taken in by a group of bikers and tattoo artists, who provided him a supportive environment to heal and r...

S5: E3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Part 2. Matthew, "I didn''t care, I just did not care." 03.11.2025

Part 2 continues Matthew’s story, detailing his battle with meth addiction and his inspiring journey toward recovery and his daily battle with sobriety.

S5: E2: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Matthew, "I didn''t care, I just did not care." 09.10.2025

Matthew began experimenting with alcohol and drugs at an early age, eventually choosing a path that led him to meth — using, dealing, and even cooking it. When Dr. Shukla interviewed him, he had been clean for five months but acknowledged that maintaining sobriety remains a daily challenge. Listen to Part 1 as Dr. Shukla shares her conversation she has with Matthew.

S5: E1: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Olivia," it took over my life." 09.07.2025

"Olivia," a 31-year-old mother, had spent years manufacturing and dealing methamphetamine. Her struggle with substance use began at the age of six, when she started inhaling gasoline fumes, eventually leading to long-term abuse of various drugs. Dr. Shukla shares her story of addiction and road to recovery.

S4: E12: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Part 2 Interview with Mike Fox, Founder of the Fox Project Foundation 03.06.2025

Mike Fox was a former meth user and dealer--he now has a mission to help and save others from their addiction through his foundation. Part 2 of our interview with Mike Fox, Founder of the Fox Project Foundation.

S4: E11: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Interview with Mike Fox, Founder of the Fox Project Foundation 14.05.2025

Mike Fox was a dealer and user of meth, but he turned his life around and is now on a mission to help others. He shares his story of his meth abuse, incarceration and his goal to help others escape their addiction and get on the road to recovery through the assistance of his foundation.

S4:E10: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Roman: "...meth takes everything..." 02.04.2025

Roman was a man in his 30s who had it all--family, children and a good paying job, but nearly lost it all due to his meth addiction and dealing. Dr. Shukla sat with "Roman" at a local breakfast establishment to discuss his past and his current recovery. In this episode, Dr. Shukla shares her interview she had with Roman.

S4:E9: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Zach"--"You go where the meth is..." 19.02.2025

Zach was a user, dealer and manufacturer. He was 36 years old on the road to recovery when he met Dr. Shukla with the aspirations to be a history professor but "wasted" a lot of years on using meth and experiencing violence.

S4:E8: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Endangered Children" Tyler's story. 20.01.2025

Tyler was an "endangered child"-- a child who lives in a home in which a parent or caretaker is suffering from substance abuse--in this case it is meth. Tyler shares his childhood story on the physical abuse, mental health impact and his relationship with his mother who used meth when raising him and his two brothers.

S4:E7: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Jessica"--"I hated it..." 21.12.2024

"Jessica" is a 15 year user of meth and a single mother. She is 38-years old when Dr. Shukla interviewed her for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story," and was only a month into her recovery. She moves from one boyfriend to another, starts dealing meth and eventually finds herself moving towards recovery after entering a "drug research study."

S4:E6: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. PIO Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics, Mark Woodward 11.11.2024

Mark Woodward of the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Substances gives us the latest on the impact the cannabis industry has had on Oklahoma and the nation, and news related to fentanyl, meth and other illicit substances.

S4:E5: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Max""...it's like it never happened." 25.10.2024

Max is 23-years old when he first spoke to Dr. Shukla. He has been involved in drug use at a young age, and later starting dealing and manufacturing. He eventually got on the road to recovery from his meth addiction through a stint in drug court.

S4:E4: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "In the line of fire." Part 2 13.09.2024

This episode is part 2 of an interview with two Oklahoma City firefighters/paramedics. The episode covers mental health, narcan, pediatric suicides and encounters in the field with meth and fentanyl users.

S4:E3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "In the line of fire." 12.08.2024

This episode covers meth, heroin, fentanyl, meth labs and managing mental health from the perspective of two Oklahoma City firefighters/paramedics.

S4:E2: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Holly" 01.08.2024

"Holly" held a college degree and was a mother of four but her life as a meth addict and dealer led her to a life of misery and despair before she found a way out through "drug court." Dr. Shukla and I also add some of the latest international news regarding meth busts and arrests to the podcast.

S4:E1: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Brianna: "Dope whores" 03.07.2024

Dope whores, cartel and recovery are all discussed in this episode. Dr. Shukla discusses Brianna's life as a meth addict and her recovery. Brianna is one of the 33 recovering meth addicts she interviewed for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

S3:E12: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Rewind and Review" of the Last 3 years 03.06.2024

In"Rewind & Review," Dr. Shukla dives into a comprehensive look at the most memorable and impactful episodes from the past three years. We will hear from the law enforcement and medical professionals and their views on the impact of meth on our communities and families.

S3:E11: The 33: Methamphetamine: Poisoning of Paradise: Interview with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt 24.04.2024

Part 2 of Dr. Shukla's interview with Federal Agent Rico Witt and the drug related issues plaguing Hawaii.

S3: E10: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story, "Poisoning of Paradise": Interview with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt 04.04.2024

Dr. Shukla visited Hawaii and spoke with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt about the history and the impact of meth on the island.

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