The 10ofthose Podcast

Andrew Sach was an atheist who dismissed Christianity until someone challenged him to investigate the resurrection as a historical question. That single shift changed everything. Not just his beliefs, but the way he saw the Bible, the world, and what it means to actually understand Scripture rather than just read it. In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan sit down with Andrew (neuroscie...

Every parent wants their kids to love reading, but Betsy Childs Howard wants something more: she wants the stories to stick. Not just as favourite books, but as moral imagination, gospel instinct, and a framework for understanding the world long after the last page is turned. In this episode of 10ofThose, Laurie and Jonathan talk with Betsy (TGC editor and author of the beloved Arlo children'...

Millions of Christians have a daily quiet time habit. So why is biblical illiteracy so widespread in the church? Jen Wilkin has been asking that question for years, and her answer is both honest and hopeful. In this episode of 10ofThose, Jonathan and Laurie sit down with Jen (Bible teacher, author of Women of the Word , and co-host of the Knowing Faith podcast) to talk about what quiet time cultur...

What happens to the money when you buy a book from 10ofThose? Jonathan has always believed that surplus shouldn't sit still, and that generosity is a gospel disposition, not a financial strategy. It's a conviction shaped by a lifetime of watching his parents live entirely by faith, and it's the driving idea behind 10Giving, the charity that sits alongside 10ofThose to put gospel res...

Felicity Carswell came to faith through a friend who showed up with chocolate and a copy of Mark's gospel. Twenty years later, she's convinced that one of the most powerful tools for discipleship and evangelism available to ordinary Christians is also one of the simplest: sitting down with someone, opening the Bible, and talking about it together. In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie tal...

Graham Albans spent a decade producing one of the biggest breakfast radio shows in Europe. Then he handed in his notice and went to work for a local church. His colleagues were kind, but confused. And his conversations about faith in that final three-month notice period outweighed the previous ten years combined. In this episode of 10ofThose, Jonathan and Laurie sit down with Graham to talk about...

Immigration is one of the most heated and polarizing issues in public life. But for Christians, it cannot remain an abstract political debate; behind every news story are real people all made in the image of God. In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie are joined by Jen Oshman to think carefully and compassionately about immigration, the global church, and the way Christians should respond in a divid...

Why is it that we actually go to church? Not just because we always have. Not just because it’s Sunday. But if everything were stripped back, what would we say remains essential? In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie reflect on the purpose of church life. They talk about corporate worship, preaching, pastoral care, the struggle of inconsistent attendance, the excuses of travel and busyness, and the...

In this episode, Laurie sits down with Jonathan to talk through the decision to leave the UK and begin 10ofThose in the United States. They reflect on the fears, missteps, encouragements, and unexpected provisions that marked those early years, as well as the ongoing challenge of trusting God without knowing outcomes. Along the way, they explore what faithful risk looks like, how to weigh responsi...

We live in a world addicted to instant gratification. We all want instant change, instant productivity, and instant transformation. But Christian growth rarely works that way. It’s slower, quieter, and far more ordinary, and found in establishing God-honouring habits through acts of faithfulness in everyday life. Jonathan and Laurie reflect on the difference between dramatic decisions and quiet co...

Foster care is often framed as rescue, and adoption as the “happy ending.” But the gospel gives a bigger vision, one that honors God’s design for family, names sin’s real destruction, and seeks restoration where healing is possible. Laurie is joined by Jamie Finn, author of God Loves Kids  and founder of the Foster the Family ministry, to talk about building sustainable community for foster and ad...

The Christmas story is familiar, but its mission-shaped urgency is often forgotten. Jesus came to save sinners from every nation, and that global burden sits at the heart of Christian discipleship, yet many believers feel stuck between desire and inaction, unsure how to begin in the busy holiday season. Jonathan is joined by David Platt to explore cultivating compassion for neighbors, embracing th...

The gospel is beautifully simple, yet we often complicate it. We add conditions, look for worthiness, or assume the doorway to grace must be harder to enter. But at the heart of Scripture is a Savior who knows us, meets us, and invites us to come with nothing in our hands. Jonathan is joined by Alistair Begg to explore the stories behind The Man on the Middle Cross , why the thief’s final plea cap...

To be known is vulnerable, to be loved is stabilizing. In Christ, we get both. But many believers overcorrect by emphasizing God’s wrath while forgetting His delight, or chasing His love while downplaying His holiness. Laurie is joined by Glenna Marshall to walk through Psalm 139, the danger of confusing unworthiness with worthlessness, and how to hold God’s love and holiness together without mini...

It’s easy to talk about gratitude in November, but how should Christians give thanks differently from the world around us? The Bible tells us over 150 times to give thanks, but why can it still be so hard to do? In this episode, Laurie and Jonathan unpack the difference between general thankfulness and gospel-rooted gratitude. They discuss why we often struggle to be thankful, how entitlement and...

Every believer encounters moments when their faith journey feels stagnant, their prayer life feels empty, time in scripture feels dissatisfying, and the joy of salvation feels like a memory. But what if feeling stuck isn’t failure, but an opportunity for God’s mercy to meet us where we are at once again? Jonathan and Laurie sit down with Nate Akin to talk about how Christians can persevere through...

The Christian life is serious, after all there is eternal weight to our every day life and public witness. But does that mean there’s no place for laughter and fun? How do we know when humour helps us connect with others, and when it distracts from the mission? In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie dive into this tension by sharing their own experiences with humor in ministry and ever day moments....

The Christian life is meant to be lived in fellowship with God, with His people, and with those who have yet to know Him. But busyness often intrudes. How do we guard joy and remain faithful to our calling when our calendars overflow? In the first episode of this new season after a busy summer, Jonathan and Laurie wrestle with the difference between fruitful labor and draining distraction, offerin...

Spiritual disciplines as a concept can often feel intimidating. Are they legalism in disguise? Or are they essential to a vibrant walk with God? In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie are joined by professor and author Donald Whitney to discuss his book Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and what it means to “discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness.” Together, they explore the hea...

Fresh off the floor from one of the year's biggest events, Jonathan and Laurie share a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to set up a massive 10ofThose bookstore at the TGC conference serving over 7,000 attendees. From hauling thousands of titles across three trucks to logging nearly 18 miles of steps on concrete floors in a single day, they reflect on the physical toll, joyful chaos, an...

Motherhood is full of challenges, and daily reminders that we can't do it alone. In this episode, Laurie is joined by her good friend and author Katie Faris to talk about Katie’s new book Every Hour I Need You: 30 Meditations for Moms on the Character of God . Together, they discuss the realities of motherhood, the importance of anchoring our hearts in who God is, and how the Lord meets us in...

Is there really any difference between reading a book on your phone, Kindle, or in print? And does it even matter? In this episode, Laurie grills Jonathan on why he’s such a strong advocate for physical books, discussing everything from passing forward books in discipleship to the ways digital intake can subtly change how (and whether) we retain truth. They explore the distractions that come with...

Is Christianity good for women? With examples from the life and teachings of Jesus, the early church, and Christian history, Laurie and Jonathan consider how the gospel has lifted and valued women across generations, even when the church hasn’t always reflected that reality well. They also reflect on some of the most inspiring women in modern Christian history, from Helen Roseveare and Elisabeth E...

Why do we sing in church? Is congregational singing just a tradition, or is there something deeper happening when we lift our voices together in worship? And what makes a song truly singable for the whole church? In this episode, Jonathan and Laurie sit down with Luke Hill and Sean DeMars to discuss the power of singing in corporate worship. Luke shares his journey from American Idol to rediscover...

With Bible apps and search engines offering instant access to scripture, our relationship to God's Word has radically changed in the 21st century. With this ease of accessibility, is there any benefit to putting in the effort when we can look up any passage in seconds, and does committing biblical passages to heart still hold value in today's world? Jonathan and Laurie dive into the topi...