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Recorded live at the Compass Gallery, this episode captures the "Becoming Sovereign" event hosted by That’s Church . We dive deep into the theological and practical aspects of sovereignty—defining it not as separation, but as "sacred self-authorship." What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Emilie Call & Anne Pimentel: An opening on the spiritual gift of women carrying one anothe...

Episode Overview How do you find spiritual independence after 30 years behind the pulpit? David Hayward (The NakedPastor) joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the "slow melt" of deconstruction, the power of art to bypass our defenses, and how to find community when you’ve left the "furnace of fellowship" behind. Key Highlights • The Growth Rings: Why your religious past is an ess...

We are kicking off Season Three with a powerful conversation about faith in a volatile world. Reverend Gerlyn Henry joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the ethics of ministry during times of global conflict and political tension. From the "resistance of joy" to the necessity of lamenting for Gaza and protecting the dignity of immigrants, this episode is a call to a bigger, more inclusive...

This special Season 2 finale was filmed last summer at Our Savior Lutheran Church and captures something deeply meaningful to us. What began as an invitation from Pastor Reba to talk about faith, interfaith work, and peacebuilding quickly became a full day of connection. After inviting us to speak with the church council, the congregation welcomed us back during a summer BBQ filled with bouncy hou...

In this episode of  That’s Church , we sit down with  Ariel Munyer  for a thoughtful conversation about faith, curiosity, and connection. Ariel shares her experiences attending different religious spaces, navigating faith alongside LGBTQ+ loved ones, and teaching with vulnerability and creativity. She also talks about her work as a professional genealogist and how uncovering family stories can be...

In this deeply honest and powerful episode, we sit down with  Kelly Robinson —a mom of five, entrepreneur, and resilient woman whose life story challenges simple narratives about faith, family, and identity. Kelly shares what it was like growing up in a strict, high-demand religion in the South as a biracial girl navigating racism, rigid expectations, and a culture where worthiness was tied to per...

Guest: Dr. Jessica Spence Moss — Executive Director of the Interfaith Youth Alliance , professor, and Latter-day Saint whose work helps youth use faith and values as a moral compass for service and compassion. In this episode: How interfaith work strengthens, not threatens, faith The difference between serving and proselyting Helping youth find meaning through connection and discomfort Why learnin...

Rising Violet Before we dive in, we want to highlight Rising Violet , the nonprofit Tiffany founded. Rising Violet provides one-time $1,000 gifts to women pursuing financial independence, with priority given to mothers who once relied on a partner and now need to be self-supporting. Applications are accepted three times a year (deadlines: Jan 31, May 31, Sep 30). Applicants must live in the U.S.,...

Guests: Ashli Carnicelli – Writer, singer, and passionate believer in the Divine Feminine Trina Caudle – Editor, historian, scoutmaster, and macro-photographer McArthur Krishna – Author, artist, and advocate for spiritual wholeness Topics Covered: Ashli’s Catholic upbringing and connection to Mary, the mother of Jesus McArthur’s years in India and insights into Hindu goddesses and the Divine Femin...

In Part Two, we continue our conversation with Casey McFarland co-host of Pioneering Paradox. This time, we explore: Casey’s experience attending 50+ churches with his wife and kids What interfaith experiences taught him about faith and empathy The power of curiosity in healing spiritual and cultural divides Why he believes God “has no favorites” Reflections on sacred texts like the Bhagavad Gita...

In this episode, we sit down with Casey McFarland, co-host along with Wil Wood of Pioneering Paradox and the voice behind one of Instagram’s most thoughtful spaces for conflicted Latter-day Saints. We discuss: How to talk to teens about Church history and faith struggles What it means to be honest without oversharing Casey’s own break from religion and what he learned visiting over 50 churches Bui...

Guest: Kurt Francom • Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints • Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts • Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio) Follow Kurt on Instagram: @leadingsaints Episode Highlights: • Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disa...

In this episode of That’s Church! , we sit down with Kristy Lawson , who grew up Lutheran in Utah , an experience that made her part of a religious minority in a predominantly LDS culture. We talk about how that shaped her beliefs, the ways she connected with faith, and how she’s navigated life in a place where the majority religion can be deeply ingrained in the culture. Kristy is also legally bl...

Happy New Year! In this very raw and real conversation, we sit down with Pastor Jeff McCullough, the creator of Hello Saints , a YouTube channel with over 66,000 subscribers where he explores the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with a refreshing and respectful approach. As an evangelical Protestant pastor , Pastor Jeff brings a unique perspective to interfaith dialogue. We really enjoy...

In this episode, Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders sit down with Michelle Peper, the voice behind @edge_of_inside , to discuss her journey from a sixth-generation Mormon upbringing to redefining her faith and spirituality after leaving the LDS Church. Michelle shares her experiences navigating a faith transition with her husband, Bob, finding a new religious home in the First Congregational United Ch...

Guest: Jenan Mohajir Topics Discussed: • A heartfelt discussion about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its ripple effects globally, especially in the United States. • Reflections on navigating polarization in America and fostering unity through meaningful action. • The meaningful conversation Jenan had as a Muslim woman with her friend Rebecca Russo, a Jewish woman, exploring their mut...

Dr. Julie de Azevedo Hanks PhD LCSW is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, relationship expert, performing songwriter, and owner of Wasatch Family Therapy. She specializes in women’s emotional health, relationship struggles, and guiding individuals and couples through faith transitions, mixed-faith dynamics, and spiritual identity shifts. Dr. Hanks empowers others to find their voi...

Summary : In this episode, we sit down with Cheryl Stout, a former member of the LDS Church who has embraced a journey of self-discovery and spiritual exploration. Cheryl shares her perspectives on: • Alan Watts’s metaphor of God as the ocean and us as the waves. • Exploring existentialism, absurdism, and the quest for personal meaning. • Her experience navigating faith deconstruction and finding...

⚠️ Spoiler Alert! In this episode of That’s Church! You will get unique perspectives from BELIEVERS and NONBELIEVERS! Ashlie Sanders and Emilie Call are joined by their brother Jake Coon, his wife Mandy Coon, and their friend Cheryl Stout to dive deep into the powerful and polarizing new movie Heretic. The film follows two LDS sister missionaries who visit an investigator’s home, only to encounter...

In this episode, we explore: • Onkar and Bryn’s backgrounds and how their faith traditions shaped their upbringing. • The story of how they met and how their love of chocolate chip cookies sparked their connection. • Navigating a mixed-faith marriage, with Onkar’s Hindu and Bryn’s LDS beliefs, and the importance of respect and mutual understanding. • How they’re raising their daughter, Jasmira, wi...

Happy Halloween! In this episode, we sit down with “Maddie,” a former member of the LDS Church and a practicing pagan who also identifies as a witch. Halloween, or Samhain, holds deep historical significance within pagan and witchcraft traditions. Maddie assures us that releasing this episode on Halloween is not only appropriate but a respectful nod to her journey in reclaiming her own spiritual p...

In this episode, Ashlie and her sister Emilie sit down with Meagan Skidmore from @meaganskidmorecoaching to have a deep and vulnerable conversation about their belief systems, deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, and what led them to start this interfaith podcast. Meagan shares how their paths crossed and how important these conversations are in creating spaces for discussions often left un...

In the second half of the episode, Emilie shares her personal journey of discovering who God is to her and her conclusion about Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. The discussion also touches on how each of the hosts has navigated faith transitions and learned to embrace different perspectives in the process. Don’t forget to attend our Interfaith Event on November 2nd at the Compass Gallery ! Tic...

Part 2 of Dr. Patrick Mason’s interview is now available to the public for FREE! 🎉 If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, head back to Episode 19 and catch up first! Dr. Mason will also be speaking live at A That’s Church Experience on November 2nd from 5 PM - 8 PM at the Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah. He will be one of the presenters, along with four other amazing presenters from different fait...

**Episode Summary:** In this powerful episode, Mandy Green joins us for an insightful conversation about Mary Magdalene, one of the most misunderstood yet pivotal figures in Christian history. Together, we explore how Mary’s life and legacy provide deep spiritual insights for today’s world. Mandy unpacks the transformative role Mary Magdalene plays in her own faith journey and how she symbolizes l...