That Was Unexpected

Today’s guest is Bianca Stern, Head of Impact and founding member of All Things Equal, a Melbourne-based social enterprise creating award-wage jobs and career pathways in hospitality for people with disability. Named on Forbes 30 Under 30 Asia for 2025, Bianca is a leader in inclusive employment, disability advocacy, and social impact. She’s passionate about shifting community attitudes and buildi...

In this episode, we chat with Andrew Hager, co-founder of Supported Travel eXperiences, and Julie Jones, Executive Editor of Travel Without Limits magazine, about breaking barriers in accessible travel. Drawing from their personal and professional journeys, they share insights, challenges, and tips for creating inclusive travel experiences that empower people with disabilities to explore the world...

Only half of working-aged Australians with disability are employed — and that has a major impact on mental health. In this episode, Dr Marissa Shields and Dr Zoe Aitken from the University of Melbourne unpack what’s behind the stats, and how better jobs and inclusive workplaces can change lives. Don't miss out! Subscribe and listen on your favourite platforms: - Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/4YeH...

In this powerful first episode of our miniseries on disability and employment, host Lisa is joined by Samantha and Jamie-Lee—two vibrant women living with Friedreich’s Ataxia, who share their real-world experiences navigating the workforce. From inclusive modelling and content creation to copywriting, they challenge outdated stereotypes and unpack the realities of workplace barriers. With honesty,...

Need some help navigating the NDIS? We're joined by special guests Sarah Krause (Youngcare Connect), and Matthew Cameron (Choices and Rights) to chat about Specialist Disability Accommodation (SDA) and Supported Independent Living (SIL)—two game-changers for people with complex disabilities. Together we'll unpack the nitty gritty and debunk some of the common myths surrounding disability housing a...

In today’s episode, we’re joined by Dr. Dinesh Palipana, the first quadriplegic medical intern in Queensland. After a life-changing spinal cord injury during medical school, Dinesh became a doctor, lawyer, researcher, and advocate. Named Queensland Australian of the Year in 2021, he continues to break barriers in medicine and disability advocacy. In this inspiring conversation, Dinesh shares his j...

Did you know, 1 in 5 Australians have a disability and 85% of those are non-visible disabilities? So, chances are you have been impacted by disability whether you realise it or not. In this enlightening episode, Lisa speaks with Justin Bruce, the Director of Hidden Disabilities Sunflower Australia and New Zealand, to help us all understand a little more about non-apparent disabilities.  Wheth...

The Story of Clare Stewart: From Trauma to Triumph In this enlightening episode of That Was Unexpected we meet Clare Stewart - Youngcare's incoming CEO. You'll hear Clare's remarkable journey from surviving a traumatic accident, to becoming the first female Mayor of Noosa and now, continuing her advocacy as CEO for the organisation that unexpectantly changed her life! Whether you are connected to...

Sam's story - taking life by the horns Bull riding changed Sam’s life in more ways than creating a champion. The sport that was his biggest passion and life’s work, is the same sport that resulted in Sam’s physical disability. In this episode, Sarah recounts Sam's incredible journey from acquiring a physical disability to the new adventures life now takes him on. (Our host Lisa is on a well-d...

With the festive season upon us there is so much to celebrate, but for some, this time of year doesn’t have the same sparkle. In this episode, we hear Chris’ journey of acquiring a sudden and life-altering disability, his Christmases trapped in the hospital system, and his remarkable ability to seek joy.    Lisa is having a well-earned break, so, this episode welcomes back Ben (from...

We’ve shouted it from the rooftops, and we’ll keep saying it: the representation of people with disabilities in film and television is far too scarce! But this month, we’re thrilled to introduce advocates who are on a mission to change the narrative.  In this episode, talented actress and writer Emily Dash, and Tracey Corbin-Matchett, the dynamic CEO of Bus Stop Films, share their insights on...

In the last of our 3-part series into accessible tourism, Lisa asks the tough questions to Airbnb country manager for Australia and New Zealand, Susan Wheeldon. What is Airbnb doing to welcome disabled travellers? What can they do better? What does the future look like for Airbnb and people with disabilities? Don't miss out! Subscribe and listen on your favourite platforms: - Spotify: open.spotify...

Our world is designed for sighted people, making it difficult for people who are blind or have low vision to fully appreciate travel experiences . Vacayit is an audio travel guide app that captures senses and emotions – in this episode, founder and CEO Hailey Brown came and had a chat about exploring the world through sound!   Don't miss out! Subscribe and listen on your favourite platfo...

In this episode our worldly and well-travelled guest, Lindsay Nott, shares the good, the bad, and the awkward of travelling the world with a physical disability.   This episode is perfect for people living with a disability who are eager to start their travel adventures, support workers, other avid travellers and allies who are interested to know more.   Dive deeper into each e...

In part two of ‘The Power of Friendship’ we delve a little deeper into Tim O’Shea’s spinal cord injury research and Dr Beer’s insights into spinal surgery. Ben reflects on the initial days after his injury and shares some unexpected truths. If you haven’t listened to part one yet, go and check it out first! Dive deeper into each episode with show notes, podcast transcripts, and more on our website...

Episode 7 Pt 1 – The Power of Friendship Have you ever wondered what would happen to your friendships if you acquired a disability? For these three best friends, one life-changing event altered the trajectory of their careers, their friendship, and their entire outlook on life.  This two-part episode promises a heartwarming and unexpected tale of male friendship and insights into the latest d...

Unseen Victories: Beyond the Paralympic Glory – Part 2 Lisa continues her chat with 2024 Paralympics qualifier, Ryley Batt, and Gold Coast Para Sport Star of the Year, Natasha Price. Our impressive guests use their lived experiences to share tips on prioritising mental and physical health. You won’t want to miss this passionate discussion about the realities of life as an elite athlete and sportin...

Unseen Victories: Beyond the Paralympic Glory – Part 1 What advice would a Paralympian and Elite Adaptive Athlete share? You might be surprised! In this two-part episode, Paralympian Ryley Batt and Elite Adaptive Athlete Natasha Price, open up about their personal journeys, challenges and triumphs. Content warning: this episode discusses sensitive topics related to eating disorders. Please proceed...

While 20% of the Australian population have disabilities, our film, screens, catwalks, and stages significantly lack adequate representation. In today's episode, we hear from actress and model, Maya Dove, and Victoria Wilson – Division Lead for Zebedee Talent, the world’s leading inclusive talent agency.   Lisa and our guests unpack the consequences of this underrepresentation for people with...

If you listened to Part 1 of this episode you will know that people with disabilities do indeed have sex *gasp*! In Part 2, Lisa continues her chat with Dr Marita and Todd about all things sex, intimacy, and disability. Get ready to challenge your perspectives on disability and embark on a transformative journey. From fostering understanding to promoting inclusion, “That Was Unexpected” invites yo...

What!? People with disabilities have sex?? – YES, of course! Then why is positive sexual health for people with disabilities a taboo topic? Lisa, Dr Marita Heck and Todd Winther explore all the juicy details about sex and intimacy for people with disabilities. Get ready to challenge your perspectives on disability and embark on a transformative journey. From fostering understanding to promoting in...

In the introductory episode of ‘That was Unexpected’ Lisa speaks to David Conry; Founder of not-for-profit Youngcare, and Greg Johnson; CEO of Youngcare. We will hear about the formation of the NFP that has changed the gap in care provision for young people with disabilities, and the future of its important work. Get ready to challenge your perspectives on disability and embark on a transformative...

Join our host, Lisa Cox, an award-winning writer, presenter, and advocate, as she delves into the everyday experiences of people living with disabilities. We’ll explore topics like sex and disability, representation, and accessibility in our communities. With expert insights, personal stories, and practical tips, this podcast is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand, support, and celebrat...