Danielle Rios, TelcoDR
Telco in 20
Over the next 20 years, the telco industry will radically change as we move the entire IT estate to the public cloud to use AI. Are you ready? Telco in 20 helps telecom execs drive transformative change through the savvy use of public cloud and AI. Host Danielle Rios and high profile guests from across telecom share their vision for the industry’s future, the impact of artificial intelligence, and what telcos need to do to thrive.
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Nov 10, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 78 - Visionary telcos use the public cloud (Andrew Walker) 31.10.2023 20:15
Telcos are finally heading to the public cloud and industry leaders are excited about its potential. But at the same time, old-fashioned thinking and technology are slowing them down. For this episode, I talk with Andrew Walker, communications and media industry lead at Accenture, about why the move is challenging, the transformative power of GenAI, and what telcos can do to get the right talent i...
Ep 77 - Why do subscribers churn: network coverage or price? (Stetson Doggett) 17.10.2023 20:36
There are more than 30,000 mobile phone plans available globally. That’s a staggering number, and one that at least partially explains why up to 90% of consumers are on plans that aren’t a good fit for their needs. For this episode, I sit down with Stetson Doggett, founder of BestPhonePlans.net and co-founder of CoverageMap.com. His mission is to help U.S. consumers cut through the noise to find t...
Ep 76 - Into the Nexus of GenAI with Microsoft (Rick Lievano) 03.10.2023 22:36
Over the last few years, Microsoft has been working overtime to become a carrier-grade hyperscaler for the industry. For this episode, I talk with Microsoft Chief Technology Officer for the Worldwide Telecommunications Industry Rick Lievano about the recent general availability of Azure Operator Nexus, its work with AT&T, and Microsoft’s $13 billion investment in OpenAI. Listen now to hear: Where...
Ep 75 - Nokia’s journey to becoming cloud native (Azfar Aslam) 19.09.2023 21:32
Nokia revealed a significant rebrand at Mobile World Congress 2023, signally a shift in the company’s focus to enterprise and B2B, which it sees as the future of telecom. For this episode, I talk with Nokia Vice President and Chief Technology Officer for Europe Azfar Aslam about Nokia’s new direction, the challenge of refactoring legacy products, and what’s in store as the hyperscalers work to bec...
Ep 74 - It’s time to take on Twilio! (TMF DTW) 05.09.2023 10:52
The telecom industry agrees that the future of 5G and enterprise telco lies in monetizing network APIs. But communications platform-as-a-service (CPaaS) company Twilio has been eating telco’s lunch by not only capturing messaging revenue, but also dominating enterprise IT departments. For this episode, I’m sharing my recent TelecomTV talk about how telcos can beat Twilio and take back what’s thei...
Ep 73 - Can telco compete in CPaaS? (Yesmean Luk) 22.08.2023 22:08
The Communications Platform as a Service (CPaaS) market is expected to hit $60 billion by 2030. Telcos deserve a big piece of this revenue—after all, their networks power CPaaS. But up until now, they’ve lost customers and revenue to companies like Twilio that make it easy for developers to add capabilities to products without having to navigate complicated telco organizations. But the landscape...
Ep 72 - Mats Granryd talks Open Gateway 08.08.2023 20:41
During this year’s Mobile World Congress, the GSMA announced a game-changing initiative called Open Gateway. It aims to revolutionize how operators collaborate with developers and each other, with the goal of opening up new revenue streams beyond traditional rate plans through the use of network APIs. For this episode, I sat down to talk with GSMA Director General Mats Granryd about the Open Gate...
Ep 71 - Save bookoo bucks with CloudFix (Rahul Subramaniam) 25.07.2023 19:08
Cloud migration is on every telco's roadmap these days, but a lot of leaders worry about runaway costs. Today’s guest, Rahul Subramaniam, is the founder and CEO of CloudFix, a cool SaaS platform that automatically optimizes AWS spend. It identifies savings, and after you approve them, implements them automatically without manual effort from your team. Listen now to hear: How CloudFix works and wha...
Ep 70 - Unleashing telco potential with AWS (Chivas Nambiar) 11.07.2023 23:09
Almost every telco I talk to is doing some kind of work with Amazon Web Services (AWS). It has the biggest market share of all of the hyperscalers, operates tons of data centers across the globe, and keeps churning out powerful software and custom-built chips that are perfect for operators. For this episode, Chivas Nambiar, director of worldwide solution architecture, AWS for telecom, joins me to...
Ep 69 - Appledore Research sits down with Totogi (Robert Curran/John Abraham ) 27.06.2023 40:19
Hey, look at that—I’m a guest on a podcast! I recently joined host Robert Curran and principal analyst John Abraham on the Appledore Research Podcast, and now I’m bringing that episode to you here. We talk about everything from the state of charging in telecom to CLOUD CITY’s rockstar takeover of Ericsson’s space at MWC21—a takeover that included an ACTUAL rock star. Click play to hear our convers...
Ep 68 - giffgaff is 1,000 times faster with AWS (Steve McDonald) 13.06.2023 20:44
In 2020, award-winning British MVNO giffgaff decided to go all-in on the public cloud with AWS. The bold move sped its software release process by 1000x, allowing it to focus on what matters: its members. Now the company is an all-star player in customer service and cloud innovation. In this episode, giffgaff’s Chief Operating and Technology Officer Steve McDonald shares the inside story about ho...
Ep 67 - How to create shareholder value (Aaron Chan) 30.05.2023 21:37
Telco stocks used to be Wall Street darlings, but in recent years have become stable dividend plays for grandpa investors. Can they return to their former glory? Today’s guest, Recurve Capital Founder Aaron Chan, has well-informed thoughts on what the industry needs to do to restore its shine. He’s at the forefront of investment strategies and market trends in telecom, and not surprisingly, he se...
Ep 66 - Anyone can be an MVNO with Gigs (Hermann Frank) 16.05.2023 15:20
Telcos make it hard for enterprise customers to negotiate deals for affordable connectivity. A few innovative tech firms are building their businesses around making things easier. One of them is Gigs, which buys pre-negotiated connectivity and offers easy APIs to allow enterprise software developers to create and sell their own voice and data plans. In this episode, Hermann Frank, co-founder and C...
Ep 65 - The new guard in telco tech (Erlend Pretgard) 02.05.2023 21:36
Forward thinking, innovative companies are using the public cloud to deliver easy-to-use telco software that reduces costs and speeds deployments. Today’s guest, Erlend Prestgard, is the CEO and co-founder of one of these visionary businesses, Working Group Two. His team has built a multi-tenant, public-cloud-native, mobile core running on AWS—something naysayers have said today’s tech couldn’t su...
Ep 64 - The cloud-first mindset (Justen Burdette) 18.04.2023 20:24
In 2015, Hawaii-based MVNO Mobi decided to give up managing the radio components of its network in favor of focusing on creating awesome services for subscribers. To accomplish this, it needed to become a thick MVNO with its own mobile core, so it started working with Working Group Two to implement a public-cloud-native, mobile core running on AWS. For this episode, Mobi CEO Justen Burdette joins...
Ep 63 - Ante up to be a public cloud contender (Charles Fitzgerald) 04.04.2023 23:21
The amount the hyperscalers spend on the public cloud is staggering. It requires a $100-billion+ buy-in to be considered a serious player. Today’s guest, Charles Fitzgerald, tracks hyperscaler CapEx spending each quarter on his Platformonomics blog. He parses earning reports to gain insight into who’s putting their money where their mouth is. Charles recently published his annual 2022 retrospect...
Ep 62 - Running your network on the public cloud with Juniper Networks (Ben Baker) 21.03.2023 21:17
So much has changed with the public cloud and telco since I created CLOUD CITY at Mobile World Congress (MWC) 2021. Back then, most industry folks said that the public cloud might be a good fit for enterprise IT and BSS workloads, but considering it for network workloads was an entirely different matter. Fast-forward two years, and now my question for the industry is, “are there any telco workload...
Ep 61 - SUPERCHARGE your MVNO with personalization (MWC) 07.03.2023 18:05
On March 1, I presented a keynote— my third in a row!— at MWC’s inaugural MVNO Summit. It was standing-room-only with leaders from digital brands, MVNOs, and MVNEs who were eager to learn how intelligent, SaaS software (like Totogi!) can help them delight customers and grow ARPU. We captured the talk on video, and I’ve turned it into this podcast. Listen now to hear about: Why MVNOs need to start...
Ep 60 - The American dream: Building a killer MVNO (Ahmed Khattak) 21.02.2023 19:17
I spend a lot of time talking to telcos about how public cloud technology can help them delight subscribers and boost ARPU. Ahmed Khattak, founder and CEO of US Mobile, knows exactly what I’m talking about. He built the Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) natively on the public cloud from day one. In this episode, we talk about his vision for the company and how it benefits from its public-clou...
Ep 59 - Get ready for MWC 2023! (Lara Dewar) 07.02.2023 18:39
Mobile World Congress 2023 is right around the corner, running from February 27 through March 2. This is the biggest event of the year for the telco industry, a place where the movers and shakers come together to discuss policy, see innovative ideas from exhibitors, and get deals done. In this episode, I talk with Lara Dewar, chief marketing officer for the GSMA, which puts together MWC each year....
Ep 58 - Live and Learn: A new MVNO approach with Peter Adderton 24.01.2023 21:38
Telcos have a ton of subscriber data at their fingertips, yet most never tap its value. MobileX is ready to show them the way. It’s using AI and subscriber usage insights to price personalized plans with transparency, and hoping to build trust between telco and customers in the process. In this episode, I talk to MobileX CEO and serial entrepreneur, Peter Adderton. He’s going to tell us what Mobil...
Ep 57 - Catch the public cloud train with TELUS (Hesham Fahmy) 10.01.2023 21:38
Telcos around the world are signing strategic deals with hyperscalers, setting big goals for public cloud transformation, and finding ways to cross the finish line. A great example is TELUS, which signed a 10-year strategic agreement with Google Cloud and is on a path to become a cloud-native organization. For this episode, I talk with Hesham Fahmy, chief information officer at TELUS, about how t...
Ep 56 - Best of 2022 - DISH: The Telco Pioneer (Marc Rouanne) 13.12.2022 15:42
I had some amazing conversations this year, but none grabbed more ears than my in-person interview with DISH Wireless Executive Vice President and Chief Network Officer Marc Rouanne. He offered a behind-the-scenes look at DISH’s new 5G network, its work with AWS, and more. The original episode went live in June, and since then it’s been listened to thousands of times. Hit play to hear: How hypers...
Ep 55 - Supercharge your MVNO (and your ARPU) by delivering a personalized subscriber experience (MVNO Nation Live) 29.11.2022 19:12
Last week I gave a keynote at the first-ever in-person MVNO Nation Live conference in beautiful Valencia, Spain. It was thrilling to talk to all of the entrepreneurial leaders at this event. They clearly see the huge upside of embracing public cloud technology and are poised to use it to become some of the world’s greatest brands. I’ve turned my keynote into this podcast episode. Listen now to hea...
Ep 54 - Bye-bye, private cloud; hello, public cloud (Davide Bellini) 15.11.2022 25:21
Every telco leader, consultant, and analyst I talk to these days says the telecom industry’s move to the public cloud is in full swing. Today’s guest, Davide Bellini, agrees. As Accenture Applied Intelligence lead for the communications and media industry, he has his finger on the pulse of telcos around the world—what they’re thinking about, how they’re navigating challenges, and their vision for...
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