Danielle Rios, TelcoDR
Telco in 20
Over the next 20 years, the telco industry will radically change as we move the entire IT estate to the public cloud to use AI. Are you ready? Telco in 20 helps telecom execs drive transformative change through the savvy use of public cloud and AI. Host Danielle Rios and high profile guests from across telecom share their vision for the industry’s future, the impact of artificial intelligence, and what telcos need to do to thrive.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 94 - Are you ready for Singtel? (Anna Yip) 25.06.2024 18:46
Singtel is a leading mobile network operator (MNO) in the Asia-Pacific region with a reputation for innovation. Its pioneering culture is one of the reasons why Anna Yip, the operator’s CEO of business development and deputy CEO for Singapore, is constantly on the lookout for creative ways to build new revenue streams, customer satisfaction, and subscriber loyalty. Anna recently toured the United...
Ep 93 - The NETWORK will be the reason telcos move to the public cloud (Juha Korhonen) 11.06.2024 19:44
It's hard to believe it's been three years since CLOUD CITY stole the show at MWC 2021 and I boldly proclaimed the dawn of the public cloud era in telecom. It’s amazing how far the industry has come in its public cloud journey since then. Juha Korhonen, a forward-thinking telco transformation leader, recognized the potential of the public cloud back then. At the time he was the head of innovation...
Ep 92 - The state of cloud in telco with Iain Morris from Light Reading 28.05.2024 21:22
I've spent the last four years championing the game-changing benefits of the public cloud for telcos, from cost savings to faster innovation. While some operators are embracing the cloud (like the O2 Telefonica Germany deal that was announced last week to run their 5G network 100% on AWS), others are doubling down on building their own private cloud—but all signs point to a turning tide. To get a...
Ep 91 - Exploring AIOps with Microsoft Azure (Jason Hogg) 14.05.2024 20:18
Microsoft has been quick to pick up the GenAI reins, making huge investments in OpenAI and strategic acquisitions like Inflection AI. Now, the hyperscaler wants to help telcos bring AI into their organizations in meaningful ways. For this episode, I spoke with Jason Hogg, GM for AIOps within Azure for Operators, about where telcos are on their AI journey, how Microsoft is helping them prepare dat...
Ep 90 - Ali Talks Tech with Totogi and Zain on Sudan's telecom crisis 30.04.2024 30:29
Last week at the NOVACOM 1-to-1 Telco Summit in Kenya, I connected with fellow podcaster Ali Hussein Kassim, host of Ali Talks Tech , which focuses on Africa’s changing tech landscape. We decided to record a joint episode about Totogi’s recent work with Zain to restore critical mobile services in Sudan after they were knocked out due to the ongoing civil war. Abdalla Hamid, Director of IT at Zain...
Ep 89 - What’s up with Totogi: The public cloud is perfect for Africa 16.04.2024 20:36
The hyperscalers are spending billions to build regions in Africa, setting the stage for the public cloud to revolutionize the continent’s telcos. With regulations easing and the number of affordable SaaS solutions growing, African telecoms are poised for an era of growth and success. Are the continent’s telcos ready to make the most of all the public cloud offers? In this episode, I talk with Sh...
Ep 88 - Cloud CAPEX: Not for the faint of wallet (Charles Fitzgerald) 02.04.2024 21:46
If you’re partnering with one or more of the hyperscalers, their roadmap is your roadmap. It’s important to know where they’re steering their ships, and a great way to gain insight into this is to follow their CAPEX spending. For this episode, I talk with Charles Fitzgerald, managing director at Platformonomics. His annual Follow the CAPEX report tracks spending by the Big 3 hyperscalers—Amazon W...
Ep 87 - Scaling telcos’ cloud mountain with Alianza (Brian Buetler) 19.03.2024 21:54
Despite having "as a service" in its name, traditional Unified Communications-as-a-Service (UCaaS) deployments often fail to deliver on the promise of a true SaaS platform. One company, Alianza, has figured out a way to move UCaaS to AWS, offering a genuine SaaS solution that leverages the scalability and resilience of the public cloud. I sat down with Brian Beutler, founder and CEO of Alianza, to...
Ep 86 - Reinventing BSS (MWC) 05.03.2024 18:40
Last week I gave my FOURTH keynote talk at Mobile World Congress (MWC) 2024 when I opened the second annual MVNO Summit to a standing-room-only crowd of industry leaders. Most were from MNOs, MVNOs, and digital brands that want to be at the forefront of an AI-powered revolution in telco business support systems (BSS). In my talk, I introduced a new AI-first, fully customized BSS solution that ble...
Ep 85 - What’s up with Totogi: 2degrees, a modern telco 20.02.2024 22:06
New Zealand Mobile Network Operator (MNO) 2degrees is taking a fresh approach to its wholesale business and relationships with MVNOs. Instead of struggling with sharing its tech stack or setting up expensive separate stacks for MVNOs, the company is tapping Totogi's multi-tenant charger to streamline their onboarding and support, and to capture additional revenue. In this episode, 2degrees Head o...
Ep 84 - MobileX's AI-driven approach (Peter Adderton) 06.02.2024 18:34
Startup MVNO MobileX is going after the US market with the belief that most mobile subscribers don’t know how much data they need. Instead of pushing unlimited plans, the company offers an AI-based tool that analyzes each subscriber’s usage and creates personalized plans for them. I spoke with MobileX CEO Peter Adderton last year, and now he’s spilling the beans on what’s been happening with Mobi...
Ep 83 - Monetizing Network APIs (Ferry Grijpink) 23.01.2024 20:11
It’s been a year since the GSMA announced its Open Gateway initiative and the telco industry is working to figure out how to monetize network APIs to their full advantage. For this episode, I talk with McKinsey & Company Partner Ferry Grijpink about the API economy and what operators need to do to capture revenue and build their strategic position. Listen now to hear: Ferry’s advice for telecoms...
Ep 82 - Beam me up, BT (Josie Smith) 09.01.2024 20:34
BT Group started its journey to the public cloud years ago, which has put the company in a strong position to take advantage of the strategic capabilities of artificial intelligence (AI). For this episode, I talk with Josie Smith, chief architect, digital, at BT Group, about the company's efforts to reduce its applications from thousands to hundreds, bring AI into the organization, and drive monum...
Ep 81 - Best of 2023: The cloud-first mindset, with Mobi CEO Justen Burdette 12.12.2023 21:24
It’s time to announce our top episode of 2023! It’s been an incredible journey for the Telco in 20 podcast—now clocking in with well over 100,000 total listens. We’ve had some great guests this year, like Mats Granryd from the GSMA, McKinsey & Company Partner Ferry Grijpink, and Microsoft’s Rick Lievano. There were tons of popular episodes, which made it a race to the finish line to name our Best...
Ep 80 - What’s up with Totogi? How Totogi is bringing AI to charging 28.11.2023 20:25
Today’s telcos have all but given up on monetizing the insatiable growth of mobile data usage, instead settling for one-size-fits-all pricing plans. But rather than give up the fight, Totogi is using the public cloud, AI, and data-driven algorithms to help the industry adopt dynamic, personalized pricing that maximizes the bottom line. In this episode, Totogi’s Chief Operating Officer Cyrus Mistry...
Ep 79 - Weaving through the public cloud with Ribbon (Bruce McClelland) 14.11.2023 20:18
When innovative new tech comes along, established software vendors face a balancing act between maintaining existing solutions for current customers and adopting disruptive new tools to stay competitive. For this episode, I talk with Bruce McClelland, President and CEO of Ribbon Communications, about his billion-dollar company’s efforts to juggle both priorities, its adoption of cloud-native softw...
Ep 78 - Visionary telcos use the public cloud (Andrew Walker) 31.10.2023 20:15
Telcos are finally heading to the public cloud and industry leaders are excited about its potential. But at the same time, old-fashioned thinking and technology are slowing them down. For this episode, I talk with Andrew Walker, communications and media industry lead at Accenture, about why the move is challenging, the transformative power of GenAI, and what telcos can do to get the right talent i...
Ep 77 - Why do subscribers churn: network coverage or price? (Stetson Doggett) 17.10.2023 20:36
There are more than 30,000 mobile phone plans available globally. That’s a staggering number, and one that at least partially explains why up to 90% of consumers are on plans that aren’t a good fit for their needs. For this episode, I sit down with Stetson Doggett, founder of BestPhonePlans.net and co-founder of CoverageMap.com. His mission is to help U.S. consumers cut through the noise to find t...
Ep 76 - Into the Nexus of GenAI with Microsoft (Rick Lievano) 03.10.2023 22:36
Over the last few years, Microsoft has been working overtime to become a carrier-grade hyperscaler for the industry. For this episode, I talk with Microsoft Chief Technology Officer for the Worldwide Telecommunications Industry Rick Lievano about the recent general availability of Azure Operator Nexus, its work with AT&T, and Microsoft’s $13 billion investment in OpenAI. Listen now to hear: Where...
Ep 75 - Nokia’s journey to becoming cloud native (Azfar Aslam) 19.09.2023 21:32
Nokia revealed a significant rebrand at Mobile World Congress 2023, signally a shift in the company’s focus to enterprise and B2B, which it sees as the future of telecom. For this episode, I talk with Nokia Vice President and Chief Technology Officer for Europe Azfar Aslam about Nokia’s new direction, the challenge of refactoring legacy products, and what’s in store as the hyperscalers work to bec...
Ep 74 - It’s time to take on Twilio! (TMF DTW) 05.09.2023 10:52
The telecom industry agrees that the future of 5G and enterprise telco lies in monetizing network APIs. But communications platform-as-a-service (CPaaS) company Twilio has been eating telco’s lunch by not only capturing messaging revenue, but also dominating enterprise IT departments. For this episode, I’m sharing my recent TelecomTV talk about how telcos can beat Twilio and take back what’s thei...
Ep 73 - Can telco compete in CPaaS? (Yesmean Luk) 22.08.2023 22:08
The Communications Platform as a Service (CPaaS) market is expected to hit $60 billion by 2030. Telcos deserve a big piece of this revenue—after all, their networks power CPaaS. But up until now, they’ve lost customers and revenue to companies like Twilio that make it easy for developers to add capabilities to products without having to navigate complicated telco organizations. But the landscape...
Ep 72 - Mats Granryd talks Open Gateway 08.08.2023 20:41
During this year’s Mobile World Congress, the GSMA announced a game-changing initiative called Open Gateway. It aims to revolutionize how operators collaborate with developers and each other, with the goal of opening up new revenue streams beyond traditional rate plans through the use of network APIs. For this episode, I sat down to talk with GSMA Director General Mats Granryd about the Open Gate...
Ep 71 - Save bookoo bucks with CloudFix (Rahul Subramaniam) 25.07.2023 19:08
Cloud migration is on every telco's roadmap these days, but a lot of leaders worry about runaway costs. Today’s guest, Rahul Subramaniam, is the founder and CEO of CloudFix, a cool SaaS platform that automatically optimizes AWS spend. It identifies savings, and after you approve them, implements them automatically without manual effort from your team. Listen now to hear: How CloudFix works and wha...
Ep 70 - Unleashing telco potential with AWS (Chivas Nambiar) 11.07.2023 23:09
Almost every telco I talk to is doing some kind of work with Amazon Web Services (AWS). It has the biggest market share of all of the hyperscalers, operates tons of data centers across the globe, and keeps churning out powerful software and custom-built chips that are perfect for operators. For this episode, Chivas Nambiar, director of worldwide solution architecture, AWS for telecom, joins me to...
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