Talking Talmud

More on the prohibition against raising certain small animals. Plus, the story of a pious person who had pain in his heart, and the doctors had no cure except for fresh goat milk from the source. Also, the respect paid to rabbis by each other, and the prohibition against owning a cat (especially white cats; black cats might be okay). Plus, signing on the dotted line to purchase a home in the land...

How a thief can take formal possession of an animal even while on the owner's property, depending on when the thief leaves that property, for example. Plus, a discussion of why the ganav is treated more stringently than a gazlan is. Also, a new mishnah: specific animals that were not allowed to be raised in the land of Israel. Including specific details of sheep, goats, chickens, and dogs, among o...

How does the prohibition against mating diverse kinds of animals impact the fourfold or fivefold payments. Plus our favorite halakhic animal the Koy appears on the daf. A new Mishnah discussed what happens when only part of the animal is sold after it is stolen.

A tiny page of Gemara on amud left, with a massive amount of commentary by the Baalei HaTosafot - on the red heifer, and a parallel discussion from the tractate Hullin. Specifically, on whether the meat of kodshim and dough can join together to form a minimum measure (spoiler: they do not). Also, more on the slaughtering that takes place with the animal that has been stolen.... and how an animal t...

The daf examines the opinion of Rabbi Shimon and his distinction between payment of the fourfold or fivefold fine in the case of a korban with achraut versus a korban without achraut. Rabbi Yochanon and Reish Lakish disagree how to understand Rabbi Shimon and what is the significance that this discussion quotes amoraim from Eretz Yisroel?

[Who's Who: Rabban Gamliel and Tavi] The case of witnesses and admission, and when in that timeline one's obligation to pay a fine kicks in. Plus, the involvement of the court in the payment, and how far the court (and the witnesses) can go in charging the penalty. Plus, the thief's admission. Also, the different functioning of admission, and whether it gets one out of paying or ropes one into pay...

More on the disagreement between Abaye and Rava on the Mishnah from 70a. The daf then shares a new Mishnah which is the inverse of the Mishnah on 70a.

Rabbi Yosi's opinion on the witnesses who saw the theft and the slaughter or sale. Plus, a conversation about the generations of dispute in this arena. Also, Rava on the potentially conspiring witnesses.

More on the halakhot about slaughtering an animal that was stolen or consecrated, but slaughtered in the wrong place in the Temple - such that the slaughtering itself considered the very last moment, because otherwise, the act that is considered the moment of slaughtering would complicate the prohibitions against certain animals, like one stolen or consecrated. Also, a new mishnah: When a person s...

The daf discusses a three way disagreement between Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, and Rabbi Yochanan HaSandlar on the status of food cooked on Shabbat and how it relates to our case of slaughtering on Shabbat. Rava tries to understand the case if a stolen ox owned by two people but the thief increases his crime to only one of the owners.

A practice from Neharde'a - where writing a document of agency or power of attorney was not permitted. (With the discussion of what the issues were) Also, a new mishnah - about stealing and then slaughtering it, when does one need to pay the penalty of the 4 or 5? Including the return of "kim leih be-derabbah minei" - when one I'd only given the harsher punishment for two violations in one act.

More on R. Yochanan's position... and attempts to determine whether he really held the position ascribed to him. With a counter from chases in another mishnah: kerem revai, orlah, graves - all of which were demarcated spaces so that people wouldn't fall into violations of impurity on the one hand, but theft on the other (which leads back to R. Yochanan). Also, more on those pious, righteous, discr...

Selling a stolen animal and the penalty incurred during the time when the owner is or is no longer hoping to get the animal back - subject to a machloket on whether the despair of the owner getting the animal back. The extra 4 and 5 payment only kicks in once the theft is "forever." After despair, the thief takes full possession, and the original owner is compensated. There is an important discuss...

Is a changing an object a mechanism by which someone can acquire an object or does it always maintain its identity as the original object? Why does the rule of fourfold and fivefold payment only apply to the sheep and ox?

How a thief acquires a stolen item, via the thief's changing the item or the despair of the owner that it will never be recovered (the thief still has to compensate the owner for the item). Plus, Abaye's arguments against the impact of despair on the thief's taking possession of that which he has stolen. Also, the difference between a "ganav" (who steals with stealth) and a "gazlan" (who steals br...

When the thief pays back what he owes plus the double, is the value assessed from the time of theft, or from the time of judgement? What if the value of an animal stolen increases? Also, what about the stolen item undergoing significant change while in the possession of the thief? That process means that the thief actually acquires the stolen item. But this is difficult. The thief comes out ahead!...

What do the different animals mentioned in the verse teach us about these categories of theft? Also, the question of whether the main case in the verse is theft or a custodian who claims theft - which makes a real difference - and the two interpretations are read through every detail.

What happens when a person comes to collect the item that another US safeguarding, and the guardian says - it was lost (or stolen). The guardian can be asked to swear to the veracity of his claim. But then other means (witnesses) attest to the fact that that claim was a lie. What kind of compensation does he have to pay the owner? Also, an investigation into baraitot that teach the handling of a t...

The case of one who gives a gold coin to a woman, and tell her that it is silver - what is she obligated to pay if it's damaged? Or lost or stolen? Given that she has no idea that the coin is gold (maybe she wouldn't have agreed to watch over a silver coin). Plus, some confusion by Rav about R. Yehudah's teaching. Also, 2 new mishnayot, one to end the chapter, and another to begin the new chapter....

Several mishnayot. Beginning with more on fire, if it crossed a public road, a river, a wall - barriers that usually prevent the spread of fire. With a delving into issues of the wall. Plus, recognizing different kinds of fire. Also, fire set on another's property. And what about if that fire destroys things that were hidden, such that the fire-setter wouldn't have known to expect them to be there...

A Mishnah describes the ways in which someone is liable for damages caused by fire. Rabbi Yitzchak Nafcha gives an aggaditc and halachic interpretation of Shemot 22:5. The daf also shares a halachic inquiry from King David leaving the learner to ask what can be learned from this question?

More on R. Nachman's assessment of damages for the chopped-down tree, and his arrival at one-sixtieth of the value. Plus, the story of wearing black shoes like a mourner in the home of the exilarch, and how it can be a sign or piety or arrogance. With a test case to determine the difference going back to this kind of 1/60th. Also, 2 mishnayot about damage to one's produce in another person's yard,...

An animal that wanders into someone's private property and causes damage - the owner of the animal is liable. But if the animal caused damage because it gave birth, that is a case that begins with negligence, but the damage is because of an accident, as it were. Perhaps that means the animal's owner is exempt from paying because the damage was unavoidable. Or should the owner have guarded the anim...

The daf explores a disagreement between Rabbah and Rav Yosef over the status of person watching a lost object. Rabbah compares this to a Shomer chinam who is not liable if the object is lost or stolen. Rav Yosef compares this to a Shomer Sacher who would be liable if the object is lost or stolen.

4 violations for which a person is not liable in the human court, but the heavenly count will take an accounting. Also, specific treatment of some of the cases in the mishnah regarding liability - if a sheep enclave has been broken, whether by robbers or animals, the owner of the sheep is exempt from any damage they might cause. If robbers stole the sheep, then the robbers are responsible for thei...