John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
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John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
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Latest episode
Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Resolutions, Memory Lapses 🧠, and Crisis Calls 03.01.2023 1:10:38
Today on Talk About That, John gets a phone call from a football legend 🍊, and considers taking a year off from New Years resolutions. Meanwhile, Jonnie stifles his crisis and tells the story of the time he and John both catastrophically forgot someone’s name 🤦♂️. Plus, highlights from This Week in History! Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Fireworks™️💥: The best way to celebrate the New Ye...
Picasso 🖼️, Pranks 😈, and “Ted Talk” Pastors 27.12.2022 1:04:34
Today on Talk About That, John explores his days as a Youth Pastor and reacts to his Christmas gift 🎁 by shooting the bird. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries out a new joke and ponders why certain people like pranks and others don’t. Plus, a conversation about what really makes for an effective sermon. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Political Fights with Your Family™️: “When you’ve had enough “Peace...
Sad Donkeys, DNA 🧬, and Ordinary Lives 20.12.2022 1:03:59
Today on Talk About That, John chases a bird around his house 🦅 🧹, wonders if donkeys are depressed, and loses at Trivial Pursuit in epic fashion. Meanwhile, Jonnie injures himself with a cinnamon roll, has a chance encounter with Willie Nelson 🤠, and pictures himself as a comedian after the apocalypse. 💣 Plus, a conversation about the pressure to be extraordinary in today’s culture and what...
Worship Gangs 🎸, Bad City Names, and Liturgy 📖 13.12.2022 56:16
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie suddenly craves grapefruit juice, and wonders how many worship leaders onstage is too many. Meanwhile, John tries to straighten his teeth 🦷, and finds out he’s way shorter than he thought. Plus, a conversation about liturgy, church traditions, and whether the Apostle Paul would’ve been the early church version of Simon Cowell. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by...
Jean Grey, Giant Chickens 🐔, and Procrastination :: Episode 233 05.12.2022 57:28
Today on Talk About That, John eats a comically big sandwich 🥪 and makes his own funeral playlist 🎶 💀. Meanwhile, we look back at our Christian rock band roots, and cringe at our first CD title 🤦♂️. Plus, a conversation about creativity, authenticity, and why procrastination isn’t always what we think it is. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Introverts®️: “We’re SO happy you cancelled.” F...
Cracked Necks 💆♂️, Beepers 📟, and Thankfulness 🙏 :: Episode 232 28.11.2022 1:01:41
Today on Talk About That, John wishes there were ninja chiropractors and has some problems with Star Wars terminology. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds out in the worst way possible that he dresses like a slouch, and yells at holograms of his dead parents. Plus, a conversation about gratitude, contentment, and self-care. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Voicemails™️: “When you should just text the per...
Five-Heads 🧑🦲, Man Soaps 🧼, and Old Glory 🇺🇸 :: Episode 231 21.11.2022 55:16
Today on Talk About That, John’s sports a faux hawk for 3 years too long, and writes a book about history’s most patriotic duvet. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to smell like flowers and worries that his own hairline is showing signs of retreat. Also, a conversation about the power of inside jokes in relationships, and the importance of feeling seen and heard. Plus, an exciting SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT abou...
Fudge Sundaes 🍨, Melon-Callings🍉 , and God’s Will :: Episode 230 15.11.2022 52:26
Today on Talk About That, John thinks he’s a ninja 🥷, and fights accusations of being a Boomer 👴🏻. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a theory about Prince, and ruins someone’s dessert with sarcasm. Also, a conversation about disappointment, contentment, and “God’s Perfect Will." Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Benadryl®️: “You can’t sneeze if you’re asleep 😴.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://linktr.ee/...
Love Languages ❤️, Ghost Blasters 👻💥, and People Pleasers :: Episode 229 07.11.2022 49:40
Today on Talk About That, John over-analyzes a text conversation, and tries to change his love language. Meanwhile, Jonnie pays people to get out of telling jokes at their event 💒, and ponders how Biblical characters got their nicknames. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, friendship, and hiring movers. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Celery™️ : “When you want a huge glob of peanut but...
Canned Laughter 😂, Go-Kart Kids, and Collectivism 👩👩👦👦👨👨👦👨👩👧👦 :: Episode 228 31.10.2022 51:48
Today on Talk About That, John has a smelly dog 🐕 👃 AND a go-kart. Meanwhile, Jonnie fractures a toe and ponders the role of a professional “sweetener.” Plus, a conversation about Biblical Interpretations and how we tend to view what we read through the lenses of our culture and biases. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The CPUP Machine : “Got a snoring dog? Try CPUP! “ 😴 FOLLOW Jonnie W.: h...
Upsets 🏈, Warning Labels ⛔️, and Alarmists ⚠️ :: Episode 227 24.10.2022 46:06
Today on Talk About That, the boys finally break down the Volunteers’ big win over Alabama 🙌. Then, Jonnie brings back cigars and candy from Mexico with ominous warning labels. Meanwhile, we ponder Tennessee’s new license plate options, and wonders if it could lead to something nefarious. Also, a conversation about negativity in the media, and whether we will ever escape this era of clickbait an...
Archdukes 💥, Tight Slacks 👖, and Shame 🤦♂️ :: Episode 226 17.10.2022 51:04
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes pants shopping in Mexico 🇲🇽, and ponders the real reason women like tall men 📸. Meanwhile, John refuses to moisturize 🔥, and eats key lime pie in bed 🛌. Plus, a conversation about secondhand embarrassment, shame, and babies in restaurants 👶. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Panera Bread 🥖®️: “Where else can you get a grilled cheese sandwich and a cup...
Renaissance Men, Impostor Syndrome, and Cavemen :: Episode 225 03.10.2022 45:51
Today on Talk About That, John has trouble describing himself in an interview, and consults his Inner Committee. Meanwhile, the Vols 🏈 break the curse against Florida, and Jonnie accidentally writes the premise for a new sitcom. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, community, and what comedians & cavemen have in common. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Listerine 🔥®️: “That burning sensa...
Replacement Shows, Hurricane Prayers 🌀 🙏, & Pain 😢 :: Episode 224 26.09.2022 47:05
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie plays understudy for a comedian friend who gets sick, and hopes to avoid some guy named Ian. Meanwhile, John gets the weirdest feedback ever after his latest sermon and moves his office to the great outdoors 🌲. Plus, a conversation about Advil PM and Empathy. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cottage Cheese®️: “We’ve gone bad, but you won’t know until the firs...
Smashed Windows, Hot Chicken 🥵🐔, and Turning Points :: Episode 223 19.09.2022 53:33
Today on Talk About That, John drives without a license 🪪 and has dreams of an NIL endorsement deal 💰. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries intermittent fasting and ponders why some people need their food to hurt them🍗🔥. Plus, a conversation about Grace and Truth (in that order), and why it’s dangerous to make yourself the hero of your own story. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Snooze Button : “G...
Cliffhangers, Contact Lenses, and Cancer Scares :: Episode 222 12.09.2022 1:03:26
Today on Talk About That, we try to remember who shot J.R. on the 80’s TV show “Dallas”. Then, Jonnie has a strange encounter with two artists while out biking 🚴♀️ , and remembers a time when people were shamed for having brown eyes 👀. Meanwhile, John is upset about the state of modern sweatpants (and his tiny legs 🐓), and gives a harrowing update about his recent health scare. Today’s episod...
Elaborate Proposals 💍, Bear Sightings 🐻, and Statue Removals :: Episode 221 23.08.2022 40:36
Today on Talk About That, John investigates his wife’s bear sighting, and can’t remember if he’s ever been in a hot air balloon. Meanwhile, Jonnie visit’s Topeka, but misses out on the museum dedicated to their most famous daredevil, and then gets pushback on last week’s comments about living in harsh weather states. Plus, more facts from this Week in History! Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by...
Nicknames, Settlers, and Dog Cops 👮♀️ 🐶 :: Episode 220 16.08.2022 1:00:53
Today on Talk About That, John breaks up the band and breaks Jonnie’s heart 💔, and also makes a theological case for dogs in Heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s Mom calls a parent-teacher meeting🤦♂️. Plus, the boys chat about Ronald Reagan, The Beatles, and an axe murderer 🪓 in a BRAND NEW Segment with facts from this week in history. Today’s Episode IS sponsored by “Results May Vary”, Jonnie’s NEW...
Fog Machines 💨, Walking Pneumonia 😷, and Hamilton :: Episode 219 10.08.2022 1:01:08
Today on Talk About That, John has an allergic reaction, forcing Jonnie to try and remember the words to their own band’s songs. Then, Jonnie performs at a Southern Gospel festival in Missouri, and can’t stop crying at a show in Canada 🇨🇦. Plus, a conversation about America’s founders and servant leadership. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Beach ®️: “All the fun of the Lake, plus shark a...
No-Huddle Offenses 🏈 , Lowing Cattle 🐄, and Public Apologies 😣 :: Episode 218 02.08.2022 1:04:42
Today on Talk About That, John is fed up with fake injuries 😡, and tries to convince Jonnie to listen to the Hamilton soundtrack before seeing the play. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a risk with his opening joke at a show, and takes issue with a popular Christmas song. Plus, John shares some insights he learned about Black history at Colonial Williamsburg. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Combinat...
Foggy Glasses 👓💨, Breaking the Chains, and Ghosting 👻 :: Episode 217 25.07.2022 40:05
Today on Talk About That, John’s tries to impress the eye doctor, and offers to coach Jonnie on frisbee technique. Meanwhile, Jonnie has two wolves inside of him 🐺, and is probably feeding them both Taco Bell 🌮. Also, a conversation about feeling “ghosted”, and our human need for affirmation. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Olive Garden 🍝™️: “When you’re here, you’re family. Which means you...
Fur Parents 🐕, Lenny Kravitz 🎸, & Repeat Sermons :: Episode 216 11.07.2022 52:44
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie doesn’t read the fine print on a monthly service 💰😡 and ponders music artists who look nothing like their names. Meanwhile, John saves a bunny and wonders if his dog is really a “good boy.” Plus, a conversation about repurposed sermon illustrations and repurposed jokes. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by The Dentist 🦷®️ : “Have you been flossing? Go ahead, lie...
Apostles ⛪️, Archetypes 🦸♂️, & Fancy Burgers 🍔💰 :: Episode 215 04.07.2022 54:41
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie argues against dark chocolate 🍫 and “important” speeches at rock concerts 🙄. Meanwhile, John explains what makes an Apostle, and the boys chat about their Pentecostal upbringing. Plus, a conversation about creativity, fame, and the tendency to make ourselves the hero of our own stories. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Fireworks 🎆®️: “This 4th of July, cele...
Blind Teachers, Alpacas 🦙, and Press Secretaries :: Episode 214 27.06.2022 1:05:55
Today on Talk About That, John gets hauled into a parent-teacher meeting over saggy pants👖. Meanwhile, Jonnie picks the absolute wrong person to sing to at a show, and starts a hip hop group in Bolivia. Also, a conversation about altered memories, and the tendency to make ourselves the hero of our own stories 🦸♂️. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Frontier Airlines ✈️®️: “Flights start at $3...
Quarantines 😷, Stranger Things, and Self-Confidence :: Episode 213 20.06.2022 55:41
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie learns he is not in fact a superhero 🦸♂️, and finally joins the Covid Club. Meanwhile, John is disappointed when people on his favorite shows don’t actually like each other in real life 🥊. Plus, a conversation about humility, confidence, and whether or not we can really learn from other people’s mistakes. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by IKEA®️: “Our Instru...
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