Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

System of Systems

Arts EN ↓ 141 episodes

All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all. Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicolapatreon.com/systemofsystems safetypropaganda.substack.comx.com/SystemofSystem3x.com/safetypropagan1x.com/mattiopattio​

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Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

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Arts

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

PREVIEW Alien Possessed Demon People (w/ Benjamin Kellogg) 28.04.2022

Artist Benjamin Kellogg and Adam discuss aliens, conspiracies, getting bogged down in the details, the art world, Lynch, the occult, the uselessness of political philosophy, architecture, and surrealism. Links: Benjamin at Instagram: @benjamin_kellogg   Benjamin for Cultured : 

The Resurrection of St. John (w/ Glen Rockney and Joel Jensen) 14.04.2022

As many listeners/readers might already know, Adam's favorite musician of all time is John Frusciante. Thus, when the guitarist re-joined Red Hot Chili Peppers for the SECOND TIME, he has left the band twice now (once in 2009 and once in 1993), he was elated.  Now, the Chi Peps are back in their true form with their first record featuring John on guitar since their magnum opus double album Stadium...

The Struggler (W/ Joel Jensen) 08.04.2022

Friend of the show, illustrator, and designer of the logos for both System of Systems and Safety Propaganda joins the show to discuss the legacy of Kentaro Miura a year after the manga legend's death and that of his epic, transcendent, and perfect long-running manga series Berserk. When Miura died in 2021, he had just revealed that Berserk was more than half of the way complete and that he had the...

Collectin' Scalps w/ Stock Pt. 6 (w/ Poorspigga) 05.04.2022

In the sixth edition of Alex Bienstock's SOS side project, Bienstock and Adam interview compulsive poster and Instagram artist Poorspigga, aka Sofia, discussing the intricacies of posting, when posting becomes a kind of art and how it functions as such, Bataille, being a fed and more. OST: The Chills "Pink Frost"  Thrones "Nostos Algos"  Mystikal "That's The Nigga" Pharoah Sanders "Love is Here 2"...

UNLOCKED Kids See Ghost Jail (W/ Berto) 23.03.2022

We are joined by Berto – the founder and co-creator of Ghost Jail (W/ Ortant and Dillard), the ninth episode of which "Science" is out now and features bits by both Adam and Will, and we discuss Kanye West's post-divorce life, musical interests, the new Batman film and the evolution of superhero films after Joker, the metaphysical castration of male artists, and the future of Berserk after Kentaro...

PREVIEW Kids See Ghost Jail (W/ Berto) 14.03.2022

We are joined by Berto – the founder and co-creator of Ghost Jail (W/ Ortant and Dillard), the ninth episode of which "Science" is out now and features bits by both Adam and Will, and we discuss Kanye West's post-divorce life, musical interests, the new Batman film and the evolution of superhero films after Joker, the metaphysical castration of male artists, and the future of Berserk after Kentaro...

(PREVIEW) Collectin' Scalps w/ Stock Pt. 5: Vilified and Demonized (w/ John David Ebert) 09.03.2022

In the fifth edition of Alex Bienstock's curatorial SOS Side Project, Collectin' Scalps w/ 'Stock, 'Stock and Adam interview the brilliant independent philosopher and poet John David Ebert. The author of books like Art After Metaphysics, and The Age After Catastrophe, Ebert covers a vast array of topics: culture, science-fiction, cinema, ancient myth, modern technology, love and romance and much m...

Furniture Activism (w/ Alex Hampshire) 04.03.2022

Alex Hampshire is a writer with a cause. Deeply concerned about the unhealthy state of the furniture we live with, he has penned a manifesto of sorts: 'Furniture Activism'. Alex discusses his book and explains how you can change your life just by being more mindful of the furniture that you adorn your living space with. Personal responsibility. Personal responsibility. What's the best piece of fur...

Rock N' Roll Penal Colony (w/ Matt Fresta) 28.02.2022

We are joined by Matt Fresta, the editor of the excellent Australia-based zine Rango Tango zine, joins the show. Fresta was a friend and bandmate of the late Brendon Annesley, who published the now iconic Aussie punk zine Negative Guest List. Together, we discuss Annesley's work, the rich history of Aussie rock n' roll, the politics of punk scenes, and more. SOUNDTRACK: SPK - Mekano   The Saints -...

UNLOCKED Cinema of Transgression (w/ Michael M. Bilandic) 27.02.2022

In memoriam to the Cinema of Transgression pioneer Nick Zedd's passing, we have removed the paywall from this episode with filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic Adam and filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic have been mutuals on social media for a little while now, but it wasn't until Mubi recently made Michael's films available on its streaming platform that Adam found himself burning through Michael's work and...

PREVIEW Disney Land Death Penalty (w/ Rob Doyle) 25.02.2022

We are joined by Irish novelist Rob Doyle, who is now best known for his work of delirious auto-fiction Threshold, a series of vignettes documenting the writer's drug usage and travels, and more recently Autobibliography (2021), which collects various essays on books that Rob has held closely throughout his career and becomes a kind of memoir told through the books that made him: Marcus Aurelius,...

Reality Bites 09.02.2022

Adam and reoccurring guest host Sandra , the beauty formerly known as Bimbo Ubermensch, discuss reality TV. That's it really. What is reality tv? What is its function? If you are a reality TV producer, please listen to this entire episode. Sandra and I have ideas for the greatest shows that have still never been made. SOUNDTRACK: Deha "Better to Reign in Hell" Boyd Rice & Death in June "Black Sun...

(PREVIEW) Filthy Good (w/ Filthy Armenian) 31.01.2022

Adam and Will are joined by friend Filthy Armenian in the wake of the release of his podcast Filthy Armenian Adventures's recent episode in which Armenian followed Adam around a tour of the New York art world recording the entire ordeal over five hours. It is a truly epic work of audio art, and Armenian's podcast to us represents an exciting new development in the form where a heaping of cinema ve...

Collectin' Scalps w/ 'Stock Pt. 4: Hallucinogenic Figuration (w/ Bradford Kessler) 24.01.2022

For the fourth edition of Alex Bienstock's SOS side project Collectin' Scalps with 'Stock, Bienstock and Adam interview their friend Bradford Kessler. Kessler, a NY-based artist known for his work in sculpture, painting, illustration, and video, is currently plotting an emergence as a feature film director. The three men discuss their work, drugs, cinema, and the importance of constructing a colle...

Cinema of Transgression (PREVIEW) (w/ Michael M. Bilandic) 21.01.2022

Adam and filmmaker Michael M. Bilandic have been mutuals on social media for a little while now, but it wasn't until Mubi recently made Michael's films available on its streaming platform that Adam found himself burning through Michael's work and was thoroughly impressed. A frustrated artist exploits a rural horrorcore group in 'Hellaware', a raving delivery man accidentally kills a famous client...

Livin' With a Gun 19.01.2022

Adam, Will, and Sandra discuss the two most undeniable masterpieces from Van Morrison's oeuvre. Adam had heard Van as a kid, but wouldn't become acquainted with the total mastery and genius of the songwriter until reading Lester Bangs' essay on Van's '67 swan song Astral Weeks and finally listened to the entirety of the record himself. It totally changed his life. Van recorded Astral Weeks, ranked...

We Are Avatars (PREVIEW) (w/ Katherine Dee) 05.01.2022

Happy New Years, Motherfuckers! For the first show of 2022, Adam, Will and reoccurring guest host Sandra are joined by writer Katherine Dee, aka Default Friend, specifically to discuss the limitations of the "dissident" branded publishers that have sprouted up throughout Covid in response to a renewed enthusiasm for anti-mainstream thought. Can there be genuine dissidence when art is tethered to p...

Collectin' Scalps with Stock Pt. 3: World's Tiniest Man (w/ Laje Amare) 24.12.2021

Based swaggot Alex Bienstock produces his third episode of his SOS side-project Collectin' Scalps w/ Stock. In this new episode, 'Stock and Adam interview music producer Laje Amare. What are we talking about here? All sorts of shit: body building, male dysmorphia, vanity, pop music, experimental music, the woes of internet temptations in the world of romance, and the fear of being fat projected as...

Sour, Bitter, Hateful Loser (W/ Jack and Ortant) 21.12.2021

In our last main episode of 2021, we are joined by two great men, brothers, and creators of The Perfume Nationalist Jack and Ortant. What the fuck did we talk about? I don't know. Last year, Jack came on the show to discuss our favorite movies of 2020, but we didn't have that many great movies to talk about this year. So, compensating for the lack of good flicks, we talked about other shit. The th...

The SQ (w/ Beyond Woke and Problematic) (PREVIEW) 12.12.2021

Meme account extraordinaire Beyond Woke and Problematic Discusses the Thiel/Soros pipelines, Kali Yuga, BAP, Kantbot, and the mesmeric allure and insidious confusion of niche internet ideology. Royal Trux - Teeth (Live) Martin Denny - Little China Doll Kid606 - Going Back To Kali Yuga Mutilation - Born Under The Master’s Spell   Agonal Lust - Satan’s Den   Pin Group - Hurricane Fighter Plane   Rus...

The Persistence of... (W/ Yeerk. P) 10.12.2021

Friend of the show Yeerk. P joins the show and..... this is a weird conversation to summarize. It started with a thread that Yeerk posited about his belief that techno is a form of hard rock. This led to much discussion about genre, genre codification, the nature of art in late modernity, the persistence of wiggerdom, nu-metal, noise's absorption into broader pop music tendencies, David Lynch, and...

The Jouissance of the Micro-Cop UNLOCKED (w/ Nina Power and Lev Parker) 02.12.2021

In this new episode, Morbid Books editor and writer Lev Parker joins the show for the second time, this time bringing along none other than the divine philosopher and poet Nina Power, who of course just wrote a beautiful afterword for Adam's new book 'Communions'. A wide variety of topics are addressed, from the middle class tendency towards being a micro-cop, to gender extremism, to the role for...

Collectin' Scalps with Stock Pt. 2: Cash Money Thousandaires (w/ Ben Morgan-Cleveland) 22.11.2021

I n Alex Bienstock's second edition of his SOS side project, Collectin' Scalps with Stock, Alex and Adam converse with artist, curator, and former Real Fine Arts co-director Ben Morgan-Cleveland. For 10 years, Ben was the co-proprieter (alongside artist Tyler Dobson) of Real Fine Arts. Arguably the most interesting gallery in New York during the 2010s, Real Fine Arts helped launch the careers of f...

The Jouissance of the Micro-Cop (PREVIEW) (w/ Nina Power and Lev Parker) 18.11.2021

In this new episode, Morbid Books editor and writer Lev Parker joins the show for the second time, this time bringing along none other than the divine philosopher and poet Nina Power, who of course just wrote a beautiful afterword for Adam's new book 'Communions'. A wide variety of topics are addressed, from the middle class tendency towards being a micro-cop, to gender extremism, to the role for...

Janie Got a Gun (KYLE IS INNOCENT) (w/ Janie) 16.11.2021

In this episode, we are joined by Janie, a young poet operating in the realm of Substack and a young singer who recently started posting songs to a Soundcloud page. We discuss poetry here, mostly, everything from Robert Desnos to Ghostface Killah to John Asheberry to Darby Crash, and try and ponder a role for poetry in liquid modernity. Adam also expresses disgust over the politicization of the Ky...

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