Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)

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Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode and beyond! Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! STTNCPOD@gmail.com Twitter/X/TikTok/Youtube: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/startrektnc

Author

Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

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Podcast website

art19.com

Latest episode

Jul 2, 2026

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Episodes

DS9 s4e24 "The Quickening" 02.07.2026

Direct from Andy's parents' apartment, here's your delayed ep of DS9 TNC! Bashir and Dax visit a planet of diseased folks - can Bashir save them? Or will he get too mired in his teddy bear story? We canceled our deaths for you, crew! We were really looking forward to it. [Episode discussion begins around 1:07]

DS9 s4e23 "To the Death" 05.06.2026

In a plot-packed thrill ride, the crew team up with the Gom Jabbars (or so Jay Leno thinks), Jeffrey Combs continues his unbroken Trek character home run streak, and Matt and Andy pause from asking, "Why isn't Odo using his T-1000 hands?" to ask, "Why did they wait so long to bring Odo in to use his T-1000 hands?" [Episode discussion begins around 1:25]

DS9 s4e22 "For the Cause" 30.05.2026

An Andy's Theory (or prediction?) finally comes true - SECUNDA!! And is Kasidy Yates up to something? The crew continues to discuss her whether she's onscreen or off. [Episode discussion begins around 1:38 (!)] Post your PRIORITY ONE comments and/or questions here and they’ll get special consideration to be read in the TNC prime pod or Patreon bonus pods! And if you’re in the President’s Circ...

DS9 s4e21 "The Muse" 15.05.2026

Jake gets an alien writing teacher who wants to teach him how to be a famous writer and Lwaxana is back in town! Lwaxana and Jake-writing-episode fans rejoice! [Episode discussion begins around 1:20ish (sort of, there are more digressions after that 🖖)]

DS9 s4e20 "Shattered Mirror" 23.04.2026

After a casual hang with Mirror Jennifer Sisko, Jake and Ben take a day trip back to the Mirror Universe to help MirrO'Brien fix up the the MirroDefiant. Meanwhile, is that Mirror Bashir? Or someone who's playing the villain in a childrens' play? [Episode discussion begins around 56:00]

DS9 s4e19 "Hard Time" 11.04.2026

O'Brien torture porn in full swing! The Chief is put behind bars... and when he gets out Bashir can't wait to box out Keiko for their reunion! [ENDING WAS CLIPPED, DELETE AND RE-UPLOAD IF IT IS] [Episode discussion begins around 1:09]

DS9 s4e18 "Rules of Engagement" 27.03.2026

Sisko takes time out of running the station to defend Worf from being too Klingon-y. Is it another great Trek legal foray or will this episode be overruled by Matt or Andy? [Episode discussion begins around 1:12]

DS9 s4e17 "Accession" 22.03.2026

The Sisko is joined by another guy who thinks he's the Emmisary (what, can ANYBODY call themselves an emmisary?) and quiet discussion ensues! Oh, and a casual homicide. And the boys asks the question: have Bajorans always been religious kooks? [Episode discussion begins around 53:00]

DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association" 22.02.2026

Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9? [Episode discussion begins around 1:15]

DS9 s4e15 "Sons of Mogh" 07.02.2026

Tony Todd returns, killing it as Kurn as he demands that Worf kills him! Is Worf's solution honorable or extra weird and messed up? [Episode discussion begins around 55:00]

DS9 s4e14 "Return to Grace" 21.01.2026

It's back-to-back weirdos being weird about Kira, but this time it's Dukat! In an A plot that runs the length of the episode without check-ins back at the station, Kira and the ex-Gul enter a game of cat and mouse (or Bird of Prey and defrocked Cardassian?) and Matt and Andy are along for the ride. [Episode discussion begins around 45:00]

DS9 s4e13 "Crossfire" 08.01.2026

Kira forgets about Odo in this heart-breaking, difficult-to-watch, but undeniably great episode. And Odo FINALLY doesn't forget to use his T-1000 silver weapon hands to do SOMETHING. [Episode discussion begins around 51:00]

DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost" 23.12.2025

Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not Nova Squadron? Either way, Not Leah Brahms may save the day! Happy Gratitude festival, crew! We are gratitudinal for all of you. [Episode discussion begins around 1:15]

DS9 s4e11 "Homefront" 02.12.2025

Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bullying to go seagull-to-seagull with the changelings, while Leah Brahms returns in her secret identity! [Episode discussion begins around 50:00]

DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir" 18.11.2025

Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department! [Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

DS9 s4e9 "The Sword of Kahless" 03.11.2025

Worf joins Dax and his celebrity crush Kor for the grandest adventure of all until the Klingons go inexplicably insane. [Episode discussion begins around 58:00]

DS9 s4e8 "Little Green Men" 24.10.2025

In this delightful time-travel romp, the Ferengi trio jaunt over to apparently nearby Earth and find themselves Roswelled! And does Odo/James Cromwell eat/murder a dog? Matt and Andy discuss! [Episode discussion begins around 1:02, MAN OF STEEL and Donner SUPERMAN spoilers around 28:00ish]

DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down" 13.10.2025

Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who needs to learn how to be command" trope, and Bashir and Dax get cracking on retconning Bashir. But don't forget about Odo! Actually, you probably can except for one scene. [Episode d...

DS9 s4e6 "Rejoined" 30.09.2025

Dax decides between a hook-up with the Borg Queen (sorta) or exile. Is resistance futile? And Matt and Andy ask ( Seinfeld voice ) "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH TRILLS?" [Episode discussion begins around 49:00]

DS9 s4e5 "Indiscretion" 17.09.2025

Can two DS9 characters have a conversation without it being about Kasidy Yates? Not many of these scenes pass the Yates test! And does Dukat have a heart, and if so is it filled with cold blood? [Episode discussion begins around 1:10]

DS9 s4e4 "Hippocratic Oath" 23.08.2025

Bashir and O'Brien go head-to-head about whether to save some Jem'Hadar while Matt and Andy go head-to-head with the TNC crew about whether "The Visitor" is heartbreaking or just okay. [Episode discussion begins around 1:22]

DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor" 18.08.2025

Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this?  [Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE W...

DS9 s4e1/s4e2 "The Way of the Warrior, Parts I and II" 08.07.2025

Matt and Andy finally watch the arrival of Worf to DS9, as the MVC song prophesied. And boy, did everybody made a big deal out of Sisko's shaved head and the arrival of Worf being harbingers of awesomeness for the show...... but maybe they didn't make a BIG ENOUGH deal of how awesome it was about to get? [Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]

DS9 s3e26 "The Adversary" 02.07.2025

There's a spy aboard Defiant and everybody's got an excuse to act weird! And we see one of Andy's favorite complaints about Odo be proven right - he should be T2-ing and Mr. Fantastic-ing all over the place! [Episode discussion begins around  1:06]

DS9 s3e25 "Facets" 10.06.2025

Jadzia meets her other hosts, and it's a sketch character showcase! Always wanted to meet Curzon? Well don't forget about Odo! But maybe forget about Curzon? [Episode discussion begins around 57:00]

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