Sara & Jennie
Spread Your Wingspan
Created by Sara Vander Zwaag & Jennie LindsayWe are two friends that immediately bonded over our secret smut addictions. Tune in as we chat about all things literary involving Romantasy, Fantasy, and straight up Romance. We compare notes on the Bookstagram fan favorites, the obscure series with new-to-us kinks, and everything in between. Do we always have the same opinion? No! Do we love to dissect tropes, fantasize over gorgeous fae, and giggle when we imagine their wingspans? Yes! If you are like us (highly anxious older daughters with ADHD and escapist tendencies) then this is the podcast f...
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Dec 16, 2025
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Episodes
The Primal of Blood and Bone 16.12.2025 1:07:03
Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Sara and Jennie dive deep into the latest installment of the Blood and Ash series, 'The Primal of Blood and Bone.' They discuss character arcs, plot developments, and the themes of love, obsession, and the complexities of relationships. The conversation also touches on the reactions from fans, the writing style of the author, and p...
Interview: J.M. Frey 08.12.2025 1:01:19
Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Sara and Jennie chat with Canadian author J.M. Frey about her latest book, 'Nine Tenths.' They explore the inspiration behind the story, the themes of grief and colonialism, and the representation of mental health in characters. J.M. shares her writing journey, the significance of her characters, and the importance of research in c...
Nine Tenths by J.M. Frey 01.12.2025 40:23
Summary In this episode, Jennie and Sara discuss the book 'Nine Tenths' by J.M. Frey. They explore the themes of wealth inequality, the complexities of relationships, and the representation of anxiety and bisexuality within the narrative. The conversation also touches on the world-building aspects of the story, including its historical context and cultural commentary. The hosts share their persona...
Born of Blood and Ash 24.11.2025 35:41
Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the fourth and final book in the Flesh and Fire series, 'Born of Blood and Ash.' They explore its complex themes, including trauma, leadership, and the balance between fate and free will. The conversation delves into character development, romantic dynamics, and the implications of parenthood in a chaotic world. The hosts also express their excitement for...
A Fire in the Flesh 17.11.2025 47:30
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sarah delve into the third book of the Flesh and Fire series, discussing its themes, character arcs, and the complexities of morality and monstrosity. They discuss the development of the protagonist Sera, and the intricate dynamics of villainy and heroism. The episode also touches on the portrayal of romantic relationships and the pacing of the narrative. O...
A Light in the Flame 10.11.2025 47:18
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss 'A Light in the Flame', the second book in the Blood and Ash prequel series Flesh and Fire. They explore themes such as enemies to lovers, atonement, and the complexity of morality. The discussion highlights character development, the nature of good and evil, and the interplay of fate and free will. They also touch on the significance of the Dr...
A Shadow in the Ember 07.11.2025 46:21
Summary In this conversation, the hosts delve into the second book of the Flesh and Fire series, a prequel to the Blood and Ash series by Jennifer L. Armentrout. They discuss the complexity of the plot, and the themes of fate versus free will, consent, and found family. The hosts also explore the emotional depth of the characters, particularly in relation to mental health, and the representation o...
Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma 27.10.2025 57:01
Summary The conversation delves into the complexities of engaging with art created by problematic figures, focusing on the themes of monstrosity, morality, and audience engagement. The hosts discuss the book 'Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma' by Claire Dederer, exploring their personal reactions to the text and the broader implications of consuming art in a capitalist society. They examine case studies o...
Unhinged by Vera Valentine 14.05.2025 33:29
Summary In this episode, Jennie and Sara dive into the absurdity of the erotic novella 'Unhinged,' which features a sentient door named Driss and explores themes of female empowerment, sexuality, and humor. They discuss the plot, character dynamics, and the unique narrative style, while also reflecting on the cultural commentary embedded within the story. The conversation highlights the blend of c...
A Soul of Blood & Ash 28.04.2025 43:30
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss the fifth book of the Blood and Ash series, A Soul of Ash and Blood. They talk about the unique perspective of Casteel in retelling the events that happen in the first book of the series, the themes of trauma and self-discovery, and the evolution of writing style in the series. The dynamics between characters, particularly the relationships and...
The War of Two Queens 22.04.2025 48:01
Summary In this episode, Jennie and Sara discuss 'A War of Two Queens,' the fourth book in the Blood and Ash series by Jennifer L. Armentrout. They explore the plot, character development, themes of consent and morality, and the dynamics of relationships, including polyamory and social monogamy. The conversation delves into the pacing of the book, the self-actualization of the protagonist Poppy, a...
The Crown of Gilded Bones 25.03.2025 57:51
Summary: In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Jennie and Sara dive into the third book of the Blood and Ash series, 'Crown of Gilded Bones.' They explore the evolution of audiobooks, the impact of dramatization on storytelling, and the rise of fantasy and romance genres. The conversation also explores the character development, themes of morality and power, and the consequenc...
Delemhach Universe 17.03.2025 37:54
Summary In this episode, hosts Jennie and Sara chat about the enchanting world of Delemhach's literary universe, exploring themes of cozy fantasy, romance, and representation. This was a rare case of Jennie loving a series and Sara having a *gasp* DNF. They discuss their different perspectives, how the series improved, the humor infused in the narrative, and the significance of neurodivergence and...
Kingdom of Flesh & Fire 11.03.2025 1:00:52
Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Jennie and Sara delve into the second book of the 'Blood and Ash' series by Jennifer L. Armentrout,, 'Kingdom of Flesh and Fire.' They discuss the intricate character dynamics, particularly between Poppy and Casteel, and explore themes of self-discovery, empowerment, and the role of emotions in the narrative. The conversation als...
Onyx Storm 04.02.2025 58:07
Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Jennie and Sara kick off Season Two with a detailed discussion of the book 'Onyx Storm.' They explore the plot, character development, and the overarching themes of love, war, and power. The conversation also critiques the writing style, pacing, and world-building, while speculating on the future of the series and the implications...
It Happened One Summer 20.08.2024 42:52
Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, Jennie and Sara discuss the book ‘It Happened One Summer’ by Tessa Bailey. They explore themes such as the small town romance trope, the comfort read aspect of the book, and the predictability of romance novels. They also touch on the steamy scenes and the importance of female pleasure in romance novels. Overall, they find the book to be...
Misadventures of a Curvy Girl 17.08.2024 44:30
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss the book 'Misadventures of a Curvy Girl' by Sierra Simone. They explore themes of self-love, the impacts of fat phobia, polyamorous romance, and the effects of trauma. Jennie found the book a bit tedious and wanted more character development, while Sara appreciated the representation of a fat protagonist and the exploration of body image issues...
From Blood and Ash 19.07.2024 52:44
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Saraa discuss the book 'From Blood and Ash' by Jennifer L. Armentrout. They talk about the themes of tyranny, patriarchy, awakening, and the power of choice. They talk about the unpredictability of the plot, the knitting together of the storylines, and the potential for a vampire arc in their podcast. They also discuss the writing style and language used in...
Kushiel's Dart 12.07.2024 1:06:43
Summary: In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss the book 'Kushiel's Dart' by Jacqueline Carey. They explore themes such as pain and pleasure, political machinations, secrets versus truths, women's roles in society, found family, loyalty and trust, and the variations of consent. They also touch on the religious and historical aspects of the book, including the concept of 'Love as Thou Wilt'...
A Marvellous Light 05.07.2024 46:32
Spoilers: A Marvellous Light by Freya Marske Narrated by David Thorpe Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, Sara and Jennie discuss the book 'A Marvellous Light' by Freya Marske. They explore the themes of queer love, power dynamics, and the contrast between social falsehoods and authentic selves. The book follows the story of Robin and Edwin, who navigate a magical world an...
Bonus: Bridgerton Part 2 04.07.2024 23:56
Summary: In this bonus pod, Jennie and Sara discuss the second half of Bridgerton’s Season 3. They address the criticisms and controversies surrounding the show, including racist reactions and resistance to changes from the books. They also express their support for the show's diversity and the collaboration between Julia Quinn and Shonda Rhimes. The conversation covers various storylines, includi...
Glossary Part 2 28.06.2024 46:29
Summary In this episode, Sara and Jennie continue to create their glossary. They explore the term 'romantasy' and touch on taboos and subgenres in romance novels. They explore the appeal of these themes and the cultural roots behind them. The concept of dark romance and its subjective nature is touched upon, with some vampire discussion much to Sara’s delight. They also touch on topics that divide...
Glossary Part 1 21.06.2024 50:31
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sara create their glossary of terms exploring different kinks and their appeal. They talk about the evolution of societal attitudes towards sexual preferences and relationships and how books can help explore and understand different kinks. They delve into specifics like: praise kink, shaming kink, reverse harem, throuples, daddy kink, BDSM, and age gaps whi...
Bridgerton 11.06.2024 55:34
Summary In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss the TV show Bridgerton, focusing on the first half of Season 3. They talk about their initial impressions of the show, the characters, and the plot. They also discuss the decision to split Season 3 into two parts and the pacing and anticipation for the second half. The conversation covers various themes and tropes in the show, such as teacher-s...
Sinner: Priest Series #2 07.06.2024 54:52
Spoilers: Priest: A Love Story and Sinner by Sierra Simone Content Warnings: Age gap, older man and younger woman Explores a murky first sexual encounter in terms of consent Cancer and death Suicide Taboo of a sexual relationship with a postulant/almost nun Summary In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan Podcast, Jennie and Sara discuss the novel Sinner by Sierra Simone. They explore theme...
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