Sanko Matcha Products

Specialty Matcha Podcast

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The Specialty Matcha Podcast is hosted by Ryan Ahn and Zongjun Li, cofounders of Sanko Matcha Products. We discuss the growth in popularity of matcha, innovation, and matcha science. We also interview thought leaders, tea merchants, and tea educators to discuss everything from sourcing, processing, blending, milling, storytelling, health claims, and much more. Sanko Matcha Products is a startup dedicated to using functional design to create contemporary matcha gear and the use of new technology to innovate the matcha milling process.

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Latest episode

Oct 29, 2026

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Episodes

Zairai, matcha milling, and more with Pau from Tea Nursery 29.10.2026

In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) welcome back Pau from Tea Nursey and who works as a tea farmer in Wazuka. Topics range from a Zairai summit in Shizuoka where genetic sampling is being used to trace which prefectures share seed stock and to test the legends about who planted tea where, to what it takes to bring a century-old abandoned Zairai field back into production, to the day to...

Interview with Zach Mangan, Kettl 08.10.2026

Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) are in discussion with Zach Mangan, founder of Kettl, to discuss 16 years of sourcing Japanese tea. Topics range from how the art of gogumi (tea blending) works, drawing on Zach's conversations with Masayoshi Koyama of Yamamasa Koyamaen, to the history of single estate matcha before the Meiji era, what "Uji" means on a label, and Zach's framework for approa...

Thailand's Advanced Matcha Market 18.09.2026

In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) record from Bangkok the day after Thailand Coffee Fest 2026, where around 40 matcha brands exhibited and the Sanko Usu One had to be pitched from a poster because the mill was stuck in air freight. Topics range from how they explain fresh milling next to a traditional ishi-usu, to Ryan's price survey of over 350 matcha products on the show floor,...

Interview with Lorela Lohan, WanderlusTea 10.09.2026

https://www.wanderlustea.com/ In this episode, Ryan talks with Lorela Lohan, founder of WanderlusTea, a Brussels-based consultancy for specialty tea businesses in Europe. Lorela has spent five years advising small and mid-sized tea brands on market research, margins, and positioning, has tasted over a hundred matchas in cafes from Amsterdam to Lisbon, and has published more than ninety interviews...

Largest *Matcha Factory in the World 03.09.2026

*If you consider matcha produced from shaded Chinese-grown tencha as matcha. In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) report from Tongren, Guizhou, after touring Guicha and driving another hour into the mountains to see the tea fields. Topics range from EU compliance testing and poverty alleviation economics, to high mountain matcha grown above 1,000 meters, to the made-up choreography of S...

Interview with Maren Fichter, Tea Educator and Writer 27.08.2026

In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) talk with Maren Fichter, a tea educator and writer whose Substack Tea & all the rest covers farming, heritage, tourism, and education in specialty tea. She has worked with tea in Japan, China, the US, and the UK, develops and teaches the Matcha Power unit on the UK Tea Academy's Tea Sommelier course, and is currently based in Wazuka, Kyoto, w...

Interview with Jeff Fuchs, Tea Explorer 20.08.2026

https://www.jefffuchs.com/ In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) are joined by Jeff Fuchs, author of The Ancient Tea Horse Road and the first documented westerner to trek both main trunks of the route, fresh off filming with tea producers in Kyoto Prefecture. Topics range from the precision of herring meal fertilization, to whether shaded teas are terroir driven at all, the hijacking of...

Opinion: Where is all the perspective? 13.08.2026

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4uIvpxzwyVbQRTeRrnrlvW?si=KqUfE4DJQFmM0Tw6Cue9Lg Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss the lack of unique perspective in contemporary matcha branding. Topics range from the emerging specialty matcha playbook, to chanoyu as a source of inspiration and a trap, the equipment and access barriers that limit experimentation, and why taking a risk in this industry is so expensiv...

Chinese vs Japanese Narratives about Matcha 07.08.2026

In this episode hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss the narrative differences between Chinese and Japanese made matcha. Sam has recently come back from Hubei and Henan, where he and a friend discovered Yabukita and Okumidori seedlings for sale. They learned a lot of interesting insights about how they got there and a 1990s Chinese-Japanese partnership to produce Japanese-style teas in rural China...

The Rise of Chinese Matcha 31.07.2026

Recorded: Early May 2026 In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) record live from Canton Fair in Guangzhou to map the Chinese matcha scene in 2026. They cover what changed in two years: "average quality" material that now rivals "average quality" Japanese tencha at 50 to 150 US dollars a kilo, the 8+ provinces producing tencha, Chinese cultivars like Longjing 43, Echa 10, and F...

Debate: What should Uji matcha be? 23.07.2026

In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) close out the Uji matcha series with a debate: can Uji matcha actually be defined? The episode maps the full spectrum of definitions, from the least conservative, where Uji is a processing and blending culture and the leaf can come from neighboring Yamashiro towns or entirely different prefectures, to the most conservative, where true Uji matcha means tencha...

"Japanese Tea" GI Granted & Startup Update 17.07.2026

Ryan and Sam (Zongjun) discuss the recent GI status granted to Japanese tea, its implications for the industry, and the problems associated with the definition. https://www.maff.go.jp/j/shokusan/gi_act/register/0179/index.html https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/84493979276a5984cb6ec8c0e6b987dc1a33edd6

What is and was Uji Matcha? 09.07.2026

In this editorial conversation, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interrogate the term "Uji matcha" and its tangled provenance: what it once meant, and how it has quietly changed over the years. Was Uji ever really a single origin? What did the Edo-period ochashi monopoly actually control, and what broke when the shogunate fell? How does one trademark end up stretched across four prefectures? And h...

Uji-no-Matcha: The inconvenient truth about Japan's most mythologized tea label 25.06.2026

https://open.substack.com/pub/sankomatcha/p/uji-no-matcha-the-inconvenient-truth?r=3mxquk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web It started with the disturbing realization that almost all Uji Matcha sold is not grown or processed in Uji at all. We kept hearing different definitions from different people: is it a city? Region? Blending style? Four-prefecture trademark? When we crunched the math f...

Notes at Origin: Nishio, Aichi 28.05.2026

Cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss their experience in Nishio, Aichi including learning about pest control techniques, unique tana-shelf shading structures of Aichi, differences between a Mikawa and Horii Style tencha oven, high efficiency "simple" or "net-type" tencha driers, and their experience milling tencha on Sanko Usu One.

Notes at Origin: Toyota, Aichi 22.05.2026

Cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss their learning journey hand picking tea for 3 days in Toyota, Aichi. They discuss tencha processing (including a unique withering step this producer uses which produces an almost baozhong-like fragrance), ishi usu stone milling, and fertilizing practices.

Breaking: Japan Seeks GI for "Japanese Tea" 14.05.2026

Ryan and Zongjun discuss the legal, cultural, and economic implications of geographic indications in the tea industry. https://open.substack.com/pub/sankomatcha/p/japan-filed-for-japanese-tea-gi-status?r=3mxquk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

100th Episode 🎊 : No Easy Answers 07.05.2026

We are very proud to upload our 100th podcast and the end of season 4. https://sankomatcha.com/ https://sankomatcha.substack.com/p/load-bearing-myths

Mythologizing in Matcha 30.04.2026

Accompanying Substack Article: Load-Bearing Myths https://open.substack.com/pub/sankomatcha/p/load-bearing-myths?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) explore the mythologizing in matcha and tea, breaking down how demand, marketing, and cultural narratives shape perceptions of quality and origin. This episode uncovers the myths behind famous regions like...

Matcha companies we wish existed 23.04.2026

Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) explore the evolving landscape of matcha, drawing parallels with the coffee industry, discussing innovation opportunities, and envisioning a future ecosystem that empowers farmers, enhances product quality, and expands market access.

Our Startup Updates 16.04.2026

Hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss updates on their countertop matcha mill Sanko Usu One, the development of new community tools and projects, and their upcoming research article about unpacking the inconvenient truth about Uji Matcha.

Interview with Tea Industry Veteran, Billy Dietz 26.03.2026

In this episode, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) speak with Billy from BHD Consulting who shares his two-decade journey in the tea industry, focusing on matcha, branding, sourcing, and industry trends. Discover insights on building a tea brand, navigating traditional and modern markets, and the future of matcha and specialty tea. IG: @sirwillotleaf https://www.bdhconsultants.com/about https://steep...

Matcha Community PSA - Missing Person: Ben Barbante 26.03.2026

Contact : https://www.instagram.com/julesreyes_/ More Info : https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWUiO-YgcpW/?igsh=MXI3a2tmY3M2Z3drZg== From Jules' Post: We have reason to believe that Ben made it to Bangkok, Thailand. Up until now, we've been focusing our efforts on his last known location in Galicia, Spain and his direction of travel (Madrid). THANK YOU to everyone who helped us trace his mov...

Visiting Shirakawa Uji with Koto Tea Space 12.03.2026

Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) in conversation in Kyoto alongside khun Pop and Yusuke-san of Koto Tea Space in Bangkok after visiting Tsuji-san, one of Japan's most decorated matcha producers. The conversation goes deep on fertilization science, soil mineral dynamics, and why Tsuji-san sends individual tea leaves to a lab at enormous cost. His words sum it up well: you cannot make great matcha without...

Interview with Teaism, Khun Gan 05.03.2026

In this episode, Khun Gan from TeaismExplorer shares his journey with tea, from working in Uji to becoming the first Thai-national Nihoncha Instructor. We explore the nuances of matcha production, regional labeling, and the evolving tea industry in Japan and Thailand. IG: @teaism.explorer

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