Matt Fullbrook
Sound-Up Governance
Interviews with real-world experts who share their perspectives on corporate governance and how it really works. groundupgovernance.substack.com
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Matt Fullbrook
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Apr 15, 2026
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Episodes
Revealing "The Hidden World of Boardrooms" 15.04.2026 10:22
This is our first ever video episode of Sound-Up Governance. Let us know what you think! Upcoming Tour Dates: May 12-13 (Brisbane) - Breaking Boardroom Patterns: Better Decisions, By Design June 10-11 (Toronto) - Working Effectively With Your Board: A Program for Senior Executives June 15-16 (Huntington Beach) - CUES Director Development Seminar Transcript Hi I’m Matt Fullbrook. It’s April 2026 an...
BONUS: Five electrifying year-end governance questions 09.12.2025 18:51
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BONUS: Introducing Policy Crimes 06.09.2025 59:00
Intro Transcript: Hi, this is Matt Fullbrook with a bit of a first for this platform. Today, I’m sharing with you a full episode of SOMEONE ELSE’S podcast. It’s called Policy Crimes, and it’s hosted by a dude called Tristan Markle. The first season of Policy Crimes explores the question: what does homelessness cost? Through interviews with some super interesting experts and academics, Tristan disc...
BONUS: Board evaluations don't work...but they could! 11.08.2025 43:11
A new long-form scripted podcast episode where Matt Fullbrook discusses the shortcomings of board evaluations and shares some new ideas to improve on the status quo. The argument builds on practical experience, academic research, and an analogy to modern music production. Full transcript available at https://groundupgovernance.substack.com/p/bonus-board-evaluations-dont-workbut Get full access to...
S3E4 - You can design good governance on your own 07.07.2025 8:47
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the fourth and final episode in this short yet super cool series about the relationship between corporate governance and human-centered design. Once again, the voices you'll hear belong to me. Michael Hartmann, who's the principal of the directors college at McMaster University, Karel Vredenburg, w...
S3E3 - Are Family Businesses Natural Design Thinkers? 30.06.2025 9:27
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is the third episode in a short series of highlights from a webinar that I co-hosted last year with my great friend Michael Hartmann. He's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University. He invited his friends, Karel Vredenburg, who was Global VP of UX Research at IBM, and Tara Safaie, who's the Executive director o...
S3E2 - Designing effective governance conditions 23.06.2025 12:47
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the second episode in a short series of highlights from a webinar that I co hosted a few months ago with my friend Michael Hartmann. He's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University, and he invited his friends Karel Vredenburg, who up until recently was the Global VP of UX Researc...
S3E1 - Are design and good governance the same thing? 16.06.2025 14:14
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and today we have the first in a short series of episodes that come from a webinar that I co hosted a few months back with my old friend Michael Hartmann, who's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University. He invited a couple of his friends to join us. Karel Vredenburg, who was the global VP...
S2E10: Is there really a clear line between board and management? (feat. Andrew Escobar) 08.04.2025 15:56
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover : 00:00 Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and this is the tenth and final episode in my epic conversation with my brilliant governance friend, Andrew Escobar. Today's episode is a bit longer than the others in this series because were working through some thinking on a really interesting topic. Between the board chair, the CEO, and the rest o...
S2E9 - Useful AI considerations for boards (feat. Andrew Escobar) 31.03.2025 7:55
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover : 00:00 Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and today we have the ninth installment of my conversation with Andrew Escobar, a corporate director, open finance expert and keen AI tinkerer. Andrew was one of the first people I knew who built their own LLM model. So I was interested to ask him AI related stuff might be on his mind as a director. Fo...
S2E8 - How do you know if you're being useful to management? (feat. Andrew Escobar) 17.03.2025 7:32
Matt Voiceover 00:09 Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and today's the eighth episode from my epic conversation with my friend and trusted governance ally, Andrew Escobar. If you've been listening to this whole season so far, can we just take a second and marvel at how much cool stuff Andrew has to say? And there are still at least three more episodes to go. Today he...
S2E7 - Why don't we break into groups during board meetings? (feat. Andrew Escobar) 10.03.2025 7:06
TRANSCRIPT MATT VOICEOVER Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and I'm back for another episode with governance rogue and open finance expert, Andrew Escobar. We left off the previous episode talking about the potential for informality to enhance decision making in boardroom. Today we build on that and suggest one very specific, highly doable thing that you and your board...
S2E6 - An easy shortcut to avoiding director liability? (feat. Andrew Escobar) 03.03.2025 6:42
TRANSCRIPT: MATT VOICEOVER Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and when I left off last time with Andrew Escobar, governance nerd and reliable partner in exploring vaguely countercultural topics, we had talked through an exercise that I conduct with boards and executives on considering the benefits and harms of our decisions on a variety of stakeholders. Andrew had expr...
S2E5 - Considering the interests of every stakeholder in 15 minutes (feat. Andrew Escobar) 17.02.2025 9:14
TRANSCRIPT MATT VOICEOVER Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this episode continues my conversation with my great friend, Andrew Escobar, who's a governance nerd, corporate director, open finance expert, and big thinker based, like me, in Toronto. I shared with Andrew an exercise that I've conducted with boards, executives and other curious people in the governance...
S2E4 - Empowering Directors to be Great (feat. Andrew Escobar) 10.02.2025 7:05
TRANSCRIPT MATT VOICEOVER Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook. Once again, our guest is my great friend Andrew Escobar, corporate director, open finance advocate, and big thinker. In today's episode, we discuss what it takes for a director to feel empowered to be great and whether it might be a good thing for boards to be friends. Let's dive in. MATT What might it look l...
S2E3 - Asking questions isn't enough (feat. Andrew Escobar) 27.01.2025 5:06
TRANSCRIPT: MATT VOICEOVER Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is the third episode of our new revamped format. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and once again our featured guest is governance nerd, open finance specialist, funky mustache sporting genius, Andrew Escobar. You might notice that the illustration of Andrew in the episode thumbnail does not include include said mustache. Sorry about th...
S2E2 - Andrew Escobar on what good governance looks like on a normal day 20.01.2025 6:25
TRANSCRIPT MATT VOICEOVER Hi, my name is Matt Fullbrook and this is Sound-Up Governance. The second episode in a brand new format where we zero in for few minutes one expert's perspective on a very specific corporate governance question or topic. Once again, my guest is Andrew Escobar, an experienced corporate director, open banking expert and super thoughtful big thinker on board stuff in general...
S2E1 - Andrew Escobar on defining good governance 20.01.2025 9:05
TRANSCRIPT: MATT VOICEOVER Hi everyone, this is Matt Fullbrook. Welcome to a whole new chapter of the Sound-Up Governance podcast where I'll talking to big thinkers in corporate governance and learning from them about the "how" of being a great corporate director or executive. Think of it as an interview show, but broken into really focused chunks. Each episode will zoom in one person's perspectiv...
BONUS PODCAST: Good governance is basically about feelings (long story alert!) 09.11.2023 26:31
TRANSCRIPT: Welcome back to…One Minute Governance? Sound-Up Governance? Kinda depends where you’re listening. I’m posting this everywhere. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the first medium- to long-form scripted podcast episode I’ve ever done. It’ll be a bit of a journey. There was just a story that I wanted to tell, and I figured that I’d use these platforms to get it out there. So, well, en...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.45) - The next generation of governance experts (feat. Reanna Dorscher & Ciara Wakita) 29.09.2023 24:43
Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I think it's fair to say that the best part of my profession, if you can call it that, is the privileged access I have to a huge variety of super smart, super interesting and super influential...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.44) - The early days of ESG for institutional investors (feat. Eric Wetlaufer) 15.09.2023 16:19
Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome to a special mini episode of Sound-Up Governance. I'm in the middle of a travel whirlwind and trying to make sure I have cool stuff to share with you. So here's a chunk of my conversation with Eric Wetlaufer that didn't fi...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.43) - Even "mainstream" directors can be fun...and they can be quitters, too (feat. Eric Wetlaufer) 08.09.2023 26:27
Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I'm grateful to you as someone who listens to this admittedly esoteric show for letting me head out on my journey without much complaint. I've chosen to interpret that as enthusiastic approval...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.42) - Executive compensation is probably broken (feat. Matt talking to himself) 25.08.2023 20:30
Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Matt refers to an old paper he wrote in 2013 - check it out here The Larcker/Tayan ECGI paper is here TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Today we have another episode that's just me. But wait! Before you shut off your computer o...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.41) - Why inclusion is *the* leadership superpower (feat. Rose Genele) 21.08.2023 24:58
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My guest today is the next and last in a little miniseries featuring people in the startup and tech environments. Also, she's up to some amazingly cool stuff. Rose Genele is the CEO of The Opening Door, a revenue operations consultancy. But that's not how we met. A mutual friend introduced us because Rose was starting something called...
Sound-Up Governance (ep.40) - Governance advice for entrepreneurs from someone who's been through it (feat. Soodeh Farokhi) 04.08.2023 24:29
TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I've been trying to get today's guest on the show for months and we finally found the time to get together what a treat to chat with Soodeh Farokhi, Chief Product Officer for Nakisa, which is a software company in Montreal. Soodeh has been a founder in the VC world, a board member an advocate for equity, diversity and inclusion. She's...
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