Max Bernstein

Sound Systems

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Unlock the secrets to building a thriving, streamlined music business on Sound Systems, hosted by Max Bernstein, Founder of Relationl. Max is on a mission: to help the music industry move beyond spreadsheets and disconnected tools. Having founded a record label, festival, and tech platform himself, Max now designs custom, automated operating systems for music companies featured in Billboard and Rolling Stone. Every episode dives into the day-to-day challenges of music management and operations. Max interviews music moguls and industry executives who are leveraging relational databases and work...

Author

Max Bernstein

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Music

Podcast website

sound-systems.captivate.fm

Latest episode

Jun 24, 2026

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Episodes

Building a community of record labels 24.06.2026

In this episode of Sound Systems Podcast, Max Bernstein speaks with Chris Herche , a SVP of Music, Operations and Marketing at Create Music Group , about how the company has evolved from a digital rights management platform into a data-driven, community-focused hub for independent music entrepreneurs. Chris shares how Create Music Group supports labels and artists with dashboards, analytics, AI to...

AI Tools for Non-Technical Founders to Build Million-Dollar Apps Without Coding with Michaela (Mickey) Shiloh 03.06.2026

In this episode, Max Bernstein sits down with Michaela (Mickey) Shiloh a songwriter, entrepreneur, and founder of HRDRV , to unpack her journey from Grammy-winning songwriter to non-technical music tech founder. Mickey shares how she launched HRDRV (pronounced ‘hard drive’) on Wix in just a few hours, scaled it into a thriving artist community, and eventually rebuilt the platform using AI-powered...

How Indie Artists Are Gaming Spotify Without Getting Banned with Dorian Perron 20.05.2026

In this episode, Max Bernstein sits down with Dorian Perron , Co-founder of Groover , to break down how artists actually grow on Spotify today through playlists, algorithms, and data-driven strategies. Dorian explains why playlisting has become the dominant form of music promotion, replacing traditional outlets like blogs and radio, and how artists can use it to generate real audience growth. He a...

Is Rock Music Back with Ashlyn Bruni 29.04.2026

In this episode, Max Bernstein sits down with Ashlyn Bruni , A&R Coordinator at Hopeless Records , to break down the resurgence of rock music and what it takes for artists to succeed in today’s landscape. Ashlyn shares how modern A&R has evolved beyond chasing streams and viral moments, focusing instead on genuine fan connection, community-building, and long-term artist development. She al...

Mark Roberge things major labels have a marketing problem 01.04.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Mark Roberge , a musician, founder of FanFlowy , to break down the systems-driven approach behind building a sustainable music career in today’s industry. He is also the co-founder of Make Our Music and serves as CEO of Bamrock Entertainment and Prospect Hill Entertainment . Mark shares how artists can move beyond chasing virality and instead buil...

The Team Energy Fix for Music Leaders to Stop Burnout Fast with Marni Wandner 13.03.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Marni Wandner , founder of Future Present , to explore how leadership, burnout prevention, and human-centered systems can reshape the way the music industry works. Drawing from her journey through artist management, running a successful marketing agency, experiencing burnout, and ultimately building a coaching and consulting practice, Marni introd...

Your Lost Music Royalties with Jamie Hart 26.02.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Jamie Dee Hart founder of Hart & Songs , a music rights management expert who helps artists, writers, and management teams clean up registrations and collect the royalties they’re owed. Jamie breaks down the real-world consequences of skipping “boring admin” from unclaimed royalties that can expire after a limited retroactive window to situati...

The One Person Record Company with Alexander Ciccimarro 12.02.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein welcomes Alexander Ciccimarro , Vice President of Marketing at RCA Records , to talk about the evolution of music marketing, artist branding, and the operational systems powering today’s record labels. From orchestrating viral blog-era moments to championing AI-driven label workflows, Alexander unpacks how he navigated a career from mixtape culture to music exec...

How The GRAMMYS Work with Dr. Chelsey Green 29.01.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein sits down with Dr. Chelsey Green , a genre-crossing violinist, educator, and now Chair of the Board of Trustees at the Recording Academy. Known for her work as a classical and contemporary musician, Dr. Chelsey shares how a spontaneous open-mic performance led her down a transformative path, from performing with a touring R&B band to shaping the future of th...

Airtable vs Notion with Alessandro Viola 21.01.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein talks with Alessandro Viola , a classically trained percussionist turned low-code systems architect at Warner Classics. Alessandro shares his unique journey from growing up immersed in classical music to building internal software systems that are transforming the way classical record labels operate. He offers a rare look behind the curtain of the classical musi...

AI vs Human Creativity with Jack Guppy 14.01.2026

In this episode, host Max Bernstein talks to Jack Guppy , a former musician turned data analyst at Spinnin' Records . Jack’s journey from producing music in his bedroom to working with one of the most recognized dance labels in the world is both fascinating and insightful. Jack shares how his early passion for computer science and music production eventually led him to discover a career in data an...

The Digital Marketing Gatekeeper with Charlie Buffin 07.01.2026

In this episode, Max Bernstein sits down with Charlie Buffin , founder of Spark Media , for a conversation that spans the explosive rise of influencer marketing, the business of digital creators, and launching an animated YouTube IP with global impact. Charlie shares his journey from a college entrepreneur managing teenage creators during the Musical.ly era to becoming a multi-platform creator age...

Why Music Sucks with Benjamin Groff 17.12.2025

In this episode, Max Bernstein sits down with Benjamin Groff , a music publishing veteran with over 30 years of experience and owner of BRILL BUILDING MUSIC PUBLISHING LLC , to discuss his journey through the music industry, the changing landscape of music publishing, and how aspiring artists and songwriters can make their mark. Benjamin shares insights from his time at major companies such as BMG...

I Started a Live Events Business in 2020 with Matthew Hoffman 10.12.2025

In this episode, Max Bernstein talks to Matthew Hoffman , Founder of Trusted Advisor , a membership group connecting professionals in music, entertainment, and sports. Matthew discusses the evolution of his business, which started in 2020 amid the pandemic, and how he’s built a thriving community of advisors who work closely with high-profile clients. He shares his journey from architecture to ent...

Artist Development is a Decades Long Project with Bradley Haering 03.12.2025

In this episode, host Max Bernstein interviews Bradley Haering , former President of Nice Life of Nice Life Recording Company . Bradley shares his journey from shoe store employee to label exec, discussing his pivotal role in Lizzo's breakthrough and his vision for a more individualized and sustainable approach to artist development. He also explores the evolving landscape of social media, particu...

No Such Thing as a Passive Catalog with Ryan Hamilton with Ryan Hamilton 24.11.2025

In this episode, host Max Bernstein interviews Ryan Hamilton , Founder of Catalog Management Services , who discusses his transition to working for himself in the dynamic world of music tech and catalog optimization . With nearly 20 years in the music business, from A&R and Live Nation to publishing, Ryan offers an insider's perspective on managing client acquisition and creative work, the val...

New Episode Coming Soon! 21.11.2025

Ready to ditch spreadsheets and run your music business like a machine? Join Max Bernstein, founder of Relationl, as he talks with the industry’s biggest operators about the systems, automation, and workflows powering today’s top music companies. From behind-the-scenes management challenges to the cutting-edge systems driving Billboard- and Rolling Stone–featured companies, Sound Systems will show...

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