Sanju Pal
Something for the Soul
The leadership podcast with a twist. As leaders, being open about our most difficult personal and professional experiences has the potential to be transformative. In this podcast, teachers from around the world who have become Founders, CEOs and C-suite level leaders of social enterprises making a positive impact in education, dive deeper than might be typical when discussing a challenge they have worked through. They share something for the soul. This podcast is humanising leadership and demonstrating the power we all have within us to get through life’s biggest hurdles to make positive chang...
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Episodes
Emotional Boldness with Raoul Joshi 04.11.2025 25:08
After a little hiatus I'm pleased to bring you this 3rd episode of Season 2, recorded during the Teach for All Social Innovators gathering in South Africa. Raoul shares the challenge he faced when pivoting from a career in management consulting at McKinsey to becoming a teacher on the Teach for Sweden fellowship. Through emotional boldness he followed his heart and intuition to pursue a new path i...
Sanju thinks about racism, breaking convention and community 15.08.2025 55:46
Sanju thinks about racism and what we can do as individuals to combat discrimination of black and brown people, inspired by the guest episode with Jacob Adams, Founder of Inner Spark Learning Lab. Celebrating South Asian Heritage Month, Sanju talks of the ways she has embraced community and co-founded The Bangali Story in the spirit of the theme 'Roots to Routes'. This episode speaks to the notion...
Positive Disruption with Jacob Adams 01.07.2025 26:41
It's wonderful to be able to bring you this 2nd episode recorded during the Teach for All Social Entrepreneurs gathering in South Africa, on my Birthday no less! Jacob shares his experience on the Teach for America programme in a black majority school in Brooklyn, here high poverty levels meant over 95% were on free or reduced cost lunches. He witnessed how rigid discipline policies and top-down c...
Sanju thinks about her life's work, family support and identity (and beauty!) 19.06.2025 40:21
Sanju thinks about what it means to commit to your 'life's work', the importance of family support and how identity and feeling beautiful is rooted in the sense of possibility to take action, inspired by the guest episode with Quim Sabrià, Co-founder and CEO of EdPuzzle. This is a chunky episode highlighting the connections made that have inspired me to take action recently - take a look at all th...
Taking Action with Quim Sabrià 01.06.2025 24:07
Hello and welcome to Season 2 of Something for the Soul! I’m delighted to bring you this first episode recorded during the Teach for All Social Entrepreneurs gathering in South Africa! My first guest this season is going to blow you away, as he did me during our very first conversation on the first night of the conference in Cape Town. We grabbed some time between sessions to talk about changing y...
Sanju thinks about expectations, overwhelm and nature 27.06.2024 39:25
Sanju thinks about expectations, inspired by the episode with Blazhka Dimitrova, in particular career expectations and society's expectations that are ever more apparent on social media. She reflects on the feeling of overwhelm, which she has experienced this month, and the tools used to help her, such as meditation (yoga nidra), solitude, disconnecting from communication notifications, poetry, pl...
Setting Expectations with Blazhka Dimitrova 01.06.2024 58:51
Blazhka shares the challenge she had feeling the weight of other people's expectations, namely her family and friends, when she decided to choose a path that was different to what they expected for her. I think this is something that we can all relate to which is why this is such a powerful episode. Blazhka shares the work she did to identify the values she had and also the values she wanted to ha...
Sanju thinks about crisis response, problem solving and side-hustles 30.05.2024 20:17
Sanju thinks about how we can respond to crisis, anchored in the motto "start with something", that Anca Margineanu shared. Sanju reflects on how we can all have an important cause that we feel strongly about in our own community or further afield that we can support through social action - this is the foundation on which RISE is built, solving for the education crisis in rural India. She thinks a...
Crisis Management with Anca Margineanu 16.05.2024 50:23
Anca shares the challenge she had managing crisis - responding to the Ukraine war by building a Refugee Centre, now the biggest centre for Ukrainian refugees in Romania. She shares the difficult road she navigated in the face of a desperately harrowing situation, using the power of collaboration, partnerships and sponsorships to provide accommodation and a range of social services to the refugees....
Sanju thinks...from a village called Shondanga 18.04.2024 32:31
Sanju thinks about the narrative that led to her setting up RISE almost 15 years ago, rooted in her love of rural India, her cultural heritage and sense of belonging to West Bengal, specifically the village of Shondanga. This is a special episode recorded at Sanju's family home in Shondanga, which meant that her reflections on the powerful episode on Creative Recovery with Fahd Jamaleddine, Co-fou...
Creative Recovery with Fahd Jamaleddine 01.04.2024 49:01
Fahd shares the challenge he has had working through the narrative that has guided his social entrepreneur journey, facing into trauma he experienced as a teenager and questioning what should guide the future re-invention of himself. He talks beautifully about having your north star to aid focus, the importance of self-love and how to build resilience through creative recovery. Fahd shares the too...
Sanju thinks about empathy, imposter syndrome and winning at life 21.03.2024 31:28
Sanju thinks about the beautiful story that this month's guest Neha Sahu shared of her students from India visiting London as winners of the School Football League and reflects on the power of empathy during that trip. She highlights the Empathy Week Teacher CPD event she attended and reflects on empathy as the driver for creativity and how her early experiences of rural West Bengal led to setting...
Career Transitions with Neha Sahu 01.03.2024 54:45
Neha shares the challenge she faced when she took a sabbatical - how the comparative stillness led to feelings of imposter syndrome and needing to seek external validation which led to people pleasing. She talks about how she worked through this, applying her own mechanisms to “win at life” again and creating a work ecosystem that is a "match", which she believes everyone can strive for. Get to kn...
Sanju thinks about when burnout led to a career crossroads 15.02.2024 21:51
Sanju thinks about the time she experienced a form of burnout whilst establishing RISE and simultaneously starting her job at Accenture and the important decision she had to make about which path to take in her career. She reflects on the aspects that this month's guest Natasha Porter OBE raised on combatting burnout, namely 'right-sizing' roles at work and being honest about where you get your se...
Beating Burnout with Natasha Porter OBE 01.02.2024 29:50
Natasha shares a refreshingly honest account of when she experienced burnout in a senior leadership role, which she worked through by what she calls "right-sizing". She talks candidly about letting self-esteem be driven by her job and the work she did to reframe what she gets worth from in life. Get to know Natasha in the first half of the podcast as she talks about doing Teach First, being on the...
Sanju thinks... 18.01.2024 9:32
Sanju thinks about what led to launching Something for the Soul, shares a little bit more on the purpose of the podcast, who it is aimed at and what she hopes will come out of it. This is a bitesize introduction to the 'Sanju thinks...' episodes, which will be released on the 3rd Thursday of every month. They will contain Sanju's reflections on the challenge that the guest speaker has shared earli...
New Year Reset with Richard Wilson 01.01.2024 29:59
With the New Year in mind, Richard shares a personal challenge that he describes as an “all pervasive malaise” which led to a reset in his goals, prioritising the non-negotiables. He talks openly about the work he did to get back the power to make things better in his life. Get to know Richard in the first half of the podcast as he talks about his move from management consulting to teaching to set...
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