David Roche and Megan Roche

Some Work, All Play

Sports EN ↓ 323 episodes

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

Author

David Roche and Megan Roche

Category

Sports

Podcast website

swaprunning.com

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

72. Athletes Are Not Math Equations & Protein Power 26.10.2021

We got out our big bowls and big spoons for big gains (protein cereal babyyyy) before talking about the importance of quantity and timing of protein intake, track workouts, the University of Oregon news and why athletic performance is not a math equation, and authenticity in leadership. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop....

71. Strength Work and Sex Queens 19.10.2021

We gave you all 14/10s before talking about the power of very easy running, dogs and impermanence, dreaming about it...then being about it, the wild science of dopamine, communication and sex, and strength work guidelines. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

70. Boston/Chicago Marathon Takeaways and Mental Health Acceptance 12.10.2021

We got very, very intimate with a redwood tree before talking about a bunch of lessons from the Boston and Chicago Marathons, the surprising science on heat strain in marathons, coming home, Ted Lasso, mental health and love, and the Stockdale Paradox. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

69. BELIEVE and Tiger Claw Race Thoughts 05.10.2021

We touched the BELIEVE sign before talking about the Tiger Claw race, what the heck is up with trail shoes, uphill and downhill running approach, realistic belief in the context of mentorship, and the power of BELIEVE through the dark forests. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

68. Long Run Physiology and Big Decision Swag 28.09.2021

We very sensually licked Dairy Queen cones before talking about long run structure and physiology, muscle breakdown and CK measurements, the problem with models, wedding dancing, and the framework for making big decisions. Plus a new Master Debaters segment! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap 

SCIENCE CORNER: Adaptation Over Multiple Training Cycles 24.09.2021

We did a sexy science experiment with this bonus episode on how health and adaptation are related across multiple training cycles. Key topics: the nervous and endocrine systems, supercompensation stimuli, overreaching v. overtraining, fatigue resistance, and Lizzo. Lizzo is key! Thank you all! WOOHOO! For more training and outdoor content, go to trailrunnermag.com/outsideplus And enter this code a...

67. RRR 100 Miler Lessons and Affirmation Station 21.09.2021

We yelled "Woohoo!" until we lost our voices (and maybe podcast listeners) at Run Rabbit Run before talking about exploration of the unknown, having the talent to use your talent, 5 universal ultra training principles, artificial general intelligence and sentience (it gets weird), and Lil Nas X. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

66. Longevity & Embracing Your Weird 14.09.2021

We banged Charlie the Chipmunk to talk about how longevity is affected by athletics (and how to focus on health in the process), free solo climbing and exploring the limits, sprained ankle prevention, presence in the moment in sports, and why what makes you weird makes you AWESOME. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

65. Mental Health Celebration & Fueling Facts 07.09.2021

We drank a lot of coffee (Megan) and drank a lot of anxiety (David) to talk about why positive reinforcement is a key coaching strategy, the ups and downs of mental health, social media, adequate fueling for elite performance, and PEDs in a follow-up to the burrito doping case. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

64. Racing Lessons & UTMB Takeaways 31.08.2021

We made our eyebrows super aerodynamic before talking about ideas for racing, the importance of celebrating yourself, dialogues on pregnancy and BABIES, rallying after low points, and some takeaways about the wild UTMB week. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

63. Finding Strong Science & Embracing Your Inner Kid 24.08.2021

We mental karate chopped some thoughts before talking about finding your why (and what being a kid has to do with it), the difficulties of science (and how that supports inclusion in sports), and the Leadville 100 (the prophecy!). Plus lots of other things! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

62. Five Ideas That Apply To Both Running And Sex 17.08.2021

We brought some wedding anniversary barnacle swag to talk about five ideas that apply to both running and sex, holding running speed for longer distances, empowering navigation skills, eating entire pizzas, and a special listener corner to end the episode. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

61. Uphill Form And Owning Your Boss Self 10.08.2021

We brought some Big Wet Food Energy to talk about race fueling, why it's good to have some imbalances, Molly Freaking Seidel, uphill form, the menstrual cycle and recovery, and fear of death. It's a big one! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

60. Eight Exciting Stories From The Olympics 03.08.2021

We really felt ourselves while talking about fun stories from the 2021 Olympics! (1) Love our bodies; (2) Build the engine; (3) Be an enthusiasm junkie; (4) Elevate friendship alongside competition; (5) Inclusion is the default; (6) Go apes--t for someone; (7) Mental health is health; (8) DUENDE. There's a ninth one in there, but counting is hard. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% of...

59. Weekly Miles & Talking About Mortality 27.07.2021

We drank the whole pot of coffee before talking about why weekly miles can be a weak proxy for training stress, what it means to shoot your shot in life, and answering a question about... mortality. We love our listeners. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

58. Sex and Alcohol and Athletic Performance 20.07.2021

We landed like Avengers to talk about the recovery science that has changed our relationship with alcohol, how sex affects athletic performance, and the power of wary optimism. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

57. Five Adventure Lessons & Aerobic/Speed Development 13.07.2021

We went full SWAG GOLDFISH to talk about lessons for adventures, believing in your creative ability, and why aerobic development can involve very easy training (but requires that you also develop your top-end speed/output). Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/SWAP

56. Athletic Hope In Tough Times & THC Ban 06.07.2021

We channeled Khia's "My Neck, My Back" diagnostic approach to talk about maintaining hope in moments of athletic uncertainty (and Megan's health journey) and why the THC ban hurts athletes. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

55. Western States 100 Recap Episode 30.06.2021

We rallied from low WHOOP recovery scores to talk about everything we saw and learned at the 2021 Western States 100. Good days are always earned, but bad days can be unlucky. Give your body a chance. And we're in this together. Plus lots more! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

54. Olympic Trials Lessons & Taper Science 22.06.2021

In our one-year podcast anniversary episode, we talked about amazing stories from the Olympic Trials, the science of why tapers might involve small injuries, and more thoughts on the recent doping news. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

53. Improving Fatigue Resistance & Creativity In Athletics 15.06.2021

We harnessed our ice-bath F-bombs to talk about the weakly understood importance of fatigue resistance in endurance performance, embracing athletics as a creative process, and being vulnerable. We appreciate you so much, thank you! WOOHOO!

52. Racing Tips & Improving Training Adaptation 08.06.2021

We pranced like show ponies before talking about 5 tips for racing, outlook when things sometimes suck, and improving adaptation/reducing injury risk. Thank you all, we appreciate you so much! WOOHOO!

51. Heart Rate Variability & Identity 01.06.2021

We embraced our inner magical creatures to talk about heart rate variability and how it might relate to training approaches, the complex illusion of identity, and putting work in a box. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

50. Ultra Training Principles & Dealing with Judgment 26.05.2021

We celebrated the 50th episode (WOOHOO!) by talking about why you don't need to do huge volume in ultra training, self-judgment and uncertainty in life, and lots of bonus topics (SPACE FACTS!). We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU!

49. The Importance of Eating Enough & Thinking About Overthinking 18.05.2021

We stocked up on pizza and otter references to talk about the endocrine system impacts of low energy availability, the problem with overthinking, and a bit too much info about otters. We appreciate you all so much, THANK YOU! WOOHOO!

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