Sober Not Mature

This week we talk for a bit and then rewind for a bit.  Not the best of, but some of... the past stuff that we have done. We get into a brief conversation of who Mike reminded Bill of recently and we talk about a weird situation with a sponsor. And the story of "Crazy Megan." The past clips are from Episode 4, Episode 10 and Episode 13.  Our top episodes.  We aren't saying they are...

This episode is all Gretchen!  Oh sorry... all "G." We had a wonderful conversation with her and she walked us through what got her here, her early days in "The Cult," and what she does today.   We talked about the name that Mike uses when he logs in to Riverside (she got a case of the giggles over that), we talked music, a little bit about normies and she even said some nice things abou...

She's back!!  Daphne joins us again to talk about the good stuff; how she got sober, how she stayed sober and what she is up to now, 4 years later. Literally sharing her experience, strength and hope.  Oh, and her dog even makes a brief vocal appearance.  Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

Yep, just Mike and I this week and it appears we had some catching up to do.   Once again... we talk about the trend of people wanting to eliminate the word alcoholic.  We have some opinions on that.  We talk about the newcomer, emotional sobriety, working in the recovery field and a little bit about football.  (Side Note - As we started talking about football, Bill spilled an...

This one is all Gio and he speaks our language.   He has a background in AA, went through a hell of a lot to get to where he is today and he is the author of the book in the episode picture.  We could say a lot about what we talked about, but we think it's easier to just let you listen.   Oh yeah... and he has a dog named Harley.   Visit him on Instagram @justin_giovinazzo...

Welcome to Season 2!  And the 6 month anniversary of this little podcast.   This one is all Daphne, our good friend from Instagram (@nomo.wino.daph)  She is a trip and a whole lot of fun!  She told us her story... all of the things that brought her into sobriety.  And we all lost count of the number of times that the phrase "ya'll" was used.   She's a sweetheart and w...

Live from Cleveland!! (both of us) This is the final episode of Season 1 and we do a recap of how we got here with the podcast. How it started, where the name came from and what we like most about doing this. We talk about our sponsor in Cleveland, a spider, gratitude and when we took our first drink. What's more important, a birthday or a sober anniversary?  And that's where the title of the...

This time, it's all Kathy.  (And the crinkling sound that you hear WILL be explained and it goes away...) For those that don't know, she is our normie sister and a hell of a good sport for putting up with "these knuckleheads."   She has some great questions and we get into some deep conversations.  One of those has to do with how Bill was for the last 6 months that he was drinking....

Our first ever Bonus Clip!  Our sister helped me test things out a couple of weeks ago with the new software and I had some fun with it. You've all heard her name and heard our stories with her and now you get to hear her voice. This is Kathy.   Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

Chris, Chris and more Chris! We have our first guest on to run a little test with the new recording software, and it's Mike's girlfriend, Chris.  To begin with, I don't know that we had planned to fill the entire episode with her, but man... we are glad that we did.   She's a normie, but has been around "us people" for years and has now been around Mike and our sober group for 6 years. &...

We have new recording software! Riverside.fm - We like it and we think you will too.   We start off by recapping our trip this past week and we give our reviews of the bands.  We also tell a couple of drunk tales from our past (wedding stories) We touch on recovery sayings and how we use them in our daily lives.  We also get into a discussion about anonymity and the "anonymous" part...

We start off with Life on Life's terms and when is the best time to get sober?  We talk about counseling.  How alcohol is glamorized through advertising and why some people "make it" and why some don't.  Sober dating and what we do if we are approached by someone who has questions about their drinking.  And we wrap up with a little road trip that we have coming up next week. &n...

We begin with Covid and Bees and have a brief discussion about the acronym HOW. Acceptance is the key. So is willingness.  We talk about the demands of a podcast, having to work Keating Center events and another popular recovery saying. Finding the similarities vs. the differences in early sobriety and we wrap up with whether we gloried drinking or not.  Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.s...

Happy 4 month anniversary to the podcast!! And Mike has a radio gig coming up. We received a great comment from a follower and also a suggestion that we dig into (Trading addictions) What if we profited from this?  We also look back at the groups we attended at The Keating Center, which one was most influential and how we started our daily routine.  Finally we talk about what our biggest...

Based on a suggestion, we actually talk about medicinal weed.  The most monumental year or time in our sobriety and finding our identity with major changes or moves. When you're feeling out of sorts, lost or squirrely, what do you do? And how we felt the first time we did certain things sober.   Handling death now vs. when we were drinking and forcing things vs. letting things just happe...

We start off talking about a Cleveland AA icon and how we both benefited from his work. There's a move happening for one of us and we talk about the why behind it.  We touch on willingness in early sobriety and what helped us stick around. Inpatient vs. outpatient programs and do we have any regrets or not?  Lastly we talk about cleaning up our side of the street.  Enjoy the episode...

We start out with charity talk. The Keating Center and how to support the podcast.  A listener question, and we provide some additional information about "normies" vs. "real alcoholics." Speaking of normies... how they feel when one of us falls and a short story of me dealing with a "real alcoholic" as a teenager. Justifiable anger, the niceness of other sobriety podcasts and a quick story of...

Founder's Day! This episode was recorded on June 10, 2022, which is the 87th Anniversary of the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous.  As everyone knows, AA is our base and Founder's Day has been a big deal for us. Stories from the first time we went, until now. There is a brief discussion about cravings, especially when we were brand new.  We talk about coins and we wrap up talking about on...

We start off with a quick wrap of a work issue, then we transition into normie's vs. real alcoholics. More about sponsors, compatibility and "accountability partners." The idea of getting rid of the word alcoholic.  Getting sober for other people, pink clouds, bed bugs (yes... we talk about bed bugs) and CBD products. Oh and some yammering. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com t...

We begin on a positive note - Happy 3 Month Anniversary To The Podcast! Then we bitch about work... Steven Tyler relapsed. (insert verbal eye roll) We dive into a pretty cool conversation about how we both got our first sponsors, what they did for us and what happened next.   As promised, we also discuss how AA varies in different parts of the country. There's Cleveland AA, and then there's e...

We start off talking about what has always kept us sober; pizza, spite and making our beds.  Also, preparing to be on our own after being "halfway."   We discuss the things that could have kept us from staying sober and how critical they were.  We reminisce about the last 30 days BEFORE we got sober.  The dark days.   Being powerless and not managing our own lives (Hence t...

12th Episode - 12 Years - 12 Steps  We talk about our first jobs after getting sober.  What it was like, what they led to and the challenges.  Gratitude and accountability, make another appearance. How we handled our first summer and our first Holiday season. The plans that we made and what we still do today. Sobriety dates, pain meds and being responsible.  This thing doesn't...

We begin with grand kids, diapers and not getting peed on.  How music has played a part in our recovery and we dig into The Steps a little bit.  Fear of missing out and the genuine fun that can be had sober.  We also talk about being open (or not) on social media and a couple of our favorite quotes.  We ramble, we laugh and we are childish.  Duh.  Enjoy the episode. &...

We dive into The Four Absolutes, explain what they are and more importantly, what they mean to us.  We talk about when Bill moved back to Wisconsin, how he settled in and how the hand of AA reached out.   We talk about boundaries, people pleasing and how we have learned and grown over the years.  We touch on NA drinks, DUI's, drunk class and how to keep doing the next righ...

In this episode, we are in Cleveland for our anniversaries and we do some stuff.  A meeting, coins, friends and a trip to the birthplace of AA to visit Dr. Bob's house. We also talk about our time in the 3/4 house, and what happened after that.  We talk about blackouts, how hard we worked to stay drunk and the magical number that we hit for our listeners.  It confirms our lack of maturity. Then we...