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So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast
So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast takes an uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that define your right to free speech. Hosted by FIRE's Nico Perrino. New episodes post every other week.
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Ep. 55 Is there a campus free speech crisis? 27.03.2018 49:38
Is there a campus free speech crisis? On this episode of So to Speak , Nico Perrino is joined by FIRE's Will Creeley and Samantha Harris to discuss this simmering question. Watch the video of this podcast recording: youtu.be/uoO6TCAQpaE Additional reading: " The 'campus free speech crisis' is a myth. Here are the facts. " by Jeffrey Adam Sachs " Everything we think about the political correctness...
Ep. 54 Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission 22.03.2018 1:31:34
In 2012, a same-sex couple entered Masterpiece Cakeshop and asked its owner, Jack Phillips, to create a cake for their wedding reception in Denver, Colorado. Phillips declined the request, reportedly telling the couple, "Sorry guys, I don't make cakes for same-sex weddings." That brief, 20-second exchange eventually found its way to the U.S. Supreme Court , where it is now the subject of one of th...
Ep. 53 Bret Weinstein, professor in exile 08.03.2018 1:25:44
Former Evergreen State College Professor Bret Weinstein describes himself as a "professor in exile." The evolutionary biologist left Evergreen last September in the fallout from the controversy surrounding the school's planned Day of Absence programming. Weinstein's objection to the programming led fifty students to disrupt his class and demand his resignation. The backlash became so intense that...
Ep. 52 The Great Firewall of China 22.02.2018 39:53
Most Americans are familiar with The Great Wall of China. Fewer are familiar with the Great Firewall of China. The Firewall blocks vast expanses of the world's web content — and it's just one of the tools the Chinese government uses to monitor, censor, and even manipulate what its approximately 1.4 billion citizens see online. On this episode of So to Speak , we explore one of the most extensive a...
Ep. 51 University of Alaska President Emeritus Mark Hamilton 08.02.2018 58:17
In 2001, University of Alaska president Mark Hamilton made national headlines when he wrote a sternly worded memo declaring that freedom of speech on campus "CANNOT BE QUALIFIED" [emphasis original]. Hamilton retired from his position as University of Alaska president in 2010. However, his memo lives on in FIRE lore as the gold standard for a university president's response to a campus free speech...
Ep. 50 Randall Kennedy on 'The Forgotten Origins of the Constitution on Campus' 25.01.2018 1:32:27
Has the history of how our constitutional rights came to be protected on campus been forgotten? Professor Randall L. Kennedy believes it has. It's a history even he wasn't familiar with until recently. On this episode of So to Speak, Professor Kennedy explains how civil rights activists in the 1950s and 60s secured early victories for free speech, due process, and public assembly on high school an...
Ep. 49 "The Great Dissent" w/ Professor Thomas Healy 11.01.2018 1:03:02
Was our modern First Amendment born out of a chance encounter on a train bound for Boston in 1918? On this episode of So to Speak , we speak with Seton Hall Law Professor Thomas Healy . He argues that Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' unlikely run-in with Judge Learned Hand in the summer of 1918 set off a series of events that culminated in a new trajectory for the First Amendment in Am...
Ep. 48 'Natural Rights and the First Amendment' w/ Jud Campbell 28.12.2017 1:07:18
Did the founders intend for the First Amendment to protect as much speech as it does today? University of Richmond Assistant Professor of Law Jud Campbell argues probably not. He is the author of an article recently published in The Yale Law Journal that Cass Sunstein says "might well be the most illuminating work on the original understanding of free speech in a generation." In "Natural Rights an...
Ep. 47 Institute for Justice President and General Counsel Scott Bullock 13.12.2017 56:28
The Institute for Justice doesn't litigate your typical First Amendment cases. They don't take cases involving protest bans, controversial speakers, or political dissent. Instead, the libertarian, public-interest law firm takes cases often ascribed to the margins of First Amendment concerns by the public and even some judges: cases involving occupational speech, commercial speech, and campaign fin...
Ep. 46 Revisiting Masses v. Patten (1917) 30.11.2017 1:57:39
Masses Publishing Co. v. Patten (1917) might be the most important free speech case you've never heard of. In his now largely forgotten decision in the case, then Southern District of New York Judge Learned Hand rejected the United States postmaster general's arguments for refusing to mail Masses magazine. The magazine was staunchly opposed to World War I and the compulsory military draft. The pos...
Ep. 45 Harvard professor Steven Pinker 15.11.2017 40:47
Harvard University professor and FIRE Advisory Council member Steven Pinker is a rockstar academic. He has written 10 books, many of which are bestsellers, including most recently " The Better Angels of our Nature " and " The Sense of Style ." On this episode of So to Speak , we chat with professor Pinker about free speech, free inquiry, taboo, dangerous ideas, and, of course, his forthcoming book...
Ep. 44 Berkeley then and now 02.11.2017 54:39
Nowhere have the campus free speech debates been as intense as at the University of California, Berkeley — the home of the Free Speech Movement. Violent protests against one speaker. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in security costs to protect another. Speaking invitations extended and then (maybe?) rescinded. And that's just this year. On this episode of So to Speak, we revisit the events surrou...
Ep. 43 LIVE EVENT: Viewpoint diversity on campus 19.10.2017 1:25:34
Is the modern college campus suffering from a decline in viewpoint diversity? Do American universities prepare students for life in a politically divided democracy, or might they be teaching habits of thought that will add to America's political divisions? Does political orthodoxy reduce the quality of research, scholarship, and education? Heterodox Academy and the Foundation for Individual Rights...
Ep. 42 'Is this the day the Internet dies?' 05.10.2017 44:20
The experts are calling it the free speech debate of the next decade: Who makes the rules for what people can say — and see — on the web? And who pays the price when "The Delete Squad" gets it wrong? On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, FIRE's Alex Morey talks to experts on all sides of the issue, from the Facebook team working to keep the social network uncensored — but als...
Ep. 41 The British free speech invasion 21.09.2017 48:15
The British free speech invasion is here. Our friends from the current affairs magazine spiked have traveled across the pond to host "Unsafe Space," an all-star free speech tour of American college campuses. On today's episode of So to Speak, we catch up with spiked editors Tom Slater and Ella Whelan in New Jersey to chat about the tour, which kicks off next week in Washington, D.C. We also discus...
Ep. 40 "The neurodiversity case for free speech" w/ Geoffrey Miller 07.09.2017 52:01
Would Isaac Newton succeed on the modern college campus? The genius who discovered the laws of motion, but who also obsessed over alchemy, was introverted and prone to unpredictable mood swings. Scholars believe he may have had autism, which is one of the many neurological conditions that contribute to "neurodiversity" in the world. And according to one new theory, the way modern colleges regulate...
Ep. 39 Judge Richard Posner on the First Amendment 05.09.2017 1:04:02
Last week, Judge Richard Posner suddenly retired from the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals after nearly 36 years on the bench. The 1981 President Reagan appointee authored over 3,300 judicial opinions during his tenure and is widely considered one of the most vocal, provocative, and influential appellate court judges of all time. On today's episode of So to Speak, we hear Judge Posner's candid th...
Ep. 38 "After Charlottesville" w/ former ACLU President Nadine Strossen 22.08.2017 1:08:08
Nadine Strossen knows the dangers of Nazism. Her father was liberated from the Buchenwald concentration camp one day before he was scheduled to be sterilized. If American soldiers arrived a day later, Strossen would never become the first female president of the ACLU. She wouldn't even be alive. After Charlottesville, there has been vigorous debate about the so-called limits of free speech. Should...
Ep. 37 Fredrik deBoer on the growing distrust of higher ed 10.08.2017 1:00:08
Fredrik deBoer has been in and around academia his entire life. He's a fourth generation Ph. D. who has blogged about education issues since 2008. Writing from a socialist perspective, he regularly tackles campus free speech debates. Last month, deBoer wrote a piece for The Los Angeles Times arguing that recent efforts to shut down conservative speakers on campus have contributed to an environment...
Ep. 36 The life of Louis Brandeis w/ Jeffrey Rosen 27.07.2017 1:03:54
During the summer of 1919, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis changed his mind about free speech. Earlier that year, he voted to uphold the conviction of Charles Schenck for opposing the military draft. A year later, he was the lone dissenter in a case dealing with nearly the same issue. In 1927, he wrote what some consider to be the greatest defense of free speech ever penned by a Supreme...
Ep. 35 Et tu, hecklers? Howard Sherman on defending the arts 13.07.2017 50:20
In Shakespeare's 1599 play "Julius Caesar," the title character is warned by a soothsayer to "beware the Ides of March." After protesters attempted to shut down a modernized production of the play in New York's Central Park last month, theater companies may now be warning each other to "beware the ire of hecklers." On today's episode of So to Speak, we speak with Arts Integrity Initiative Director...
Ep. 34 The 100th anniversary of the Espionage Act of 1917 29.06.2017 59:33
It was 100 years ago this month that the Espionage Act of 1917 was signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson, making it a crime to interfere with the operations of the United States military. During its lifetime, the act has had a troubled history with the First Amendment. It has been used to criminalize wartime dissent, restrict press freedom, and prosecute government whistleblowers. On today's...
Ep. 33 The Slants win at the U.S. Supreme Court! 20.06.2017 1:04:05
Simon Tam likes to quote Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous line — paraphrased from transcendentalist Theodore Parker's earlier statement — that "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." That said, Tam likes to add that the arc doesn't bend on its own. It takes courageous individuals willing to stand up for their rights for justice to be achieved. Tam can now add himself t...
Ep. 32 Tyler Cowen on the complacent campus 15.06.2017 1:03:44
George Mason University Professor Tyler Cowen has spent the better part of the last 40 years on college campuses. That's why when he wrote in his new book "The Complacent Class: The Self-Defeating Quest for the American Dream" that college campuses are "among the segments of American society where the complacent class exercises its strongest influence," we wanted to learn more. On today's episode...
Ep. 31 Campus free speech round table: spring 2017 semester in review 01.06.2017 1:03:47
FIRE President and CEO Greg Lukianoff once declared 2014 the year of the heckler. But after high profile examples of mob censorship at the University of California, Berkeley, Middlebury College, and Claremont McKenna College, has 2017 become the new year of the heckler — at least on college campuses? On this week's episode of So to Speak, host Nico Perrino is joined by his FIRE colleagues Will Cre...
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