Trevor DeVage
Smells Like Smoke
Smells Like Smoke is a raw, hope-filled podcast for people tired of safe religion and distant answers. Inspired by Jude 23, we go where others won’t. Into addiction, doubt, shame, and real-life pain to help rescue people without losing ourselves. This isn’t about being louder or winning arguments. It’s about getting close enough to save lives.30 minutes. Real stories. Real hope. If your faith never smells like smoke, you’re probably too far from the fire.
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Episodes
Imposter Syndrome & Leadership 08.01.2025 56:12
Welcome to the 2025 season of The Make Podcast ! 🎉 This episode explores imposter syndrome, leadership lessons, and the power of showing up. Pastor Trevor talks to John Hasbrouck about creating a lasting legacy, and fostering a mission-driven culture in the church and business world. Plus, updates on Pantano’s incredible 2024 highlights, baptisms, and exciting events like Night to Shine in 2025 ....
A Night to Shine Spotlight 18.12.2024 40:35
Join Trevor and the team at Pantano Church as they talk about Night to Shine , a life-changing prom experience for individuals with special needs. In this special episode, discover the joy, transformation, and community impact of this event, hosted in partnership with the Tim Tebow Foundation. Get involved! Whether volunteering as a buddy, donating services, or supporting parents, there’s a way fo...
Love in Action 27.11.2024 50:33
In this season's finale of The Make , Trevor DeVage welcomes Randy, a long-time member of Pantano, to share his remarkable story of faith, loss, and love in action. Reflecting on over 30 years of service, Randy recounts the profound journey of navigating the heartbreaking loss of his son to leukemia, finding strength in God, and embodying kindness in even the toughest moments.
Building the Church Beyond Sundays 20.11.2024 45:05
In this episode of The Make Podcast, Trevor DeVage sits down with a ministry leader John Cassetto to discuss the journey of faith, ministry, and the powerful work of God in diverse cultural settings. From small-town Midwest churches to the mission field of New England, to leading worship and global ministry at Saddleback Church in California, John shares insights into church growth, cultural impac...
From Outcasts to Freedom: God Behind Bars & Finding True Purpose 13.11.2024 45:27
In this episode of The Make , Trevor DeVage sits down with his old friend, Landon Sherman, for an honest, inspiring look into the life-changing work of prison ministry. Landon shares stories from his journey with God Behind Bars, an organization that brings hope and faith to inmates across the country, including incredible moments of transformation sparked by a simple tablet app.
Curiosity, Compassion, and Connection 06.11.2024 53:21
Join us on this episode of The Make as we have a conversation about cultivating compassion, connection, and curiosity in today's youth. Trevor hosts Janelle and Brittany, two passionate leaders from Pantano’s kids and student ministries, who share their journeys and discuss the power of activating kids in faith. Discover practical ways to nurture empathy, foster resilience, and inspire young peopl...
Embracing a Kingdom-First Life 30.10.2024 47:26
In this powerful episode of The Make Podcast , Trevor and guest Chris Hamlin talk about the heart of living out faith daily, discussing the tensions between cultural values and biblical truth, and how seeking God's kingdom first impacts every aspect of life. This conversation is filled with insights on how we can make a difference in our communities by living for Christ beyond the walls of the chu...
Living Out Your Faith Beyond Church 23.10.2024 1:01:42
In this episode of The Make Podcast , we talk about what it means to move from being a Sunday taker to an everyday maker for Christ. The discussion with guest Stephen Jobe focuses on the intentionality behind putting faith into action daily, both at home and in the workplace. Stephen shares insights on living with integrity, how vulnerability and leadership can transform relationships, and why emb...
True Relationships and Leadership 16.10.2024 1:10:11
In this episode of The Make Podcast , host Trevor welcomes two of his favorite people, Darren Sanders and Garrett, for an authentic conversation about the deeper aspects of leadership, friendship, and faith. They explore the difference between mentorship and true friendship, how their lives have intertwined through worship tours, and the lessons they've learned along the way. Darren shares his jou...
Unpolitical Jesus with Mark Moore 09.10.2024 58:16
In this episode of "The Make," host Trevor DeVage sits down with special guest Mark Moore, teaching pastor at Christ Church of the Valley, to dive into a thought-provoking discussion on politics, servant leadership, and the teachings of Jesus. As they kick off Pantano's new series, "Unpolitical Jesus," they explore how Jesus defied political norms by using power to serve the powerless. Join us as...
Bilingual Worship to Expand the Church's Impact 02.10.2024 51:14
In this episode of The Make Podcast , host Trevor DeVage is joined by Pastor Saul to discuss the exciting growth of Revive, our bilingual service. With a focus on reaching Tucson's diverse community, Saul shares the heart behind bilingual worship and the importance of offering a space where English and Spanish-speaking congregants can worship together. They also delve into the church's fut...
Turn Your Mess into a Message 25.09.2024 49:01
In this episode of The Make Podcast , host Trevor DeVage sits down with Ralph to discuss his incredible journey of transformation. From excelling in high school football to battling addiction and finding faith, Ralph's story is a testament to the power of perseverance and grace. Learn how he turned his struggles into a message of hope, became a devoted husband and father, and now helps others...
Embracing Transformation and Authenticity 18.09.2024 44:33
Join host Trevor DeVage and guest Rebecca Hamlin in this engaging episode of The Make , where they talk about transformation, authenticity, and scripture. From hilarious childhood memories to the serious matters of faith, body, and spirit, they explore how to use scripture as a tool for change, not as a weapon. With discussions ranging from personal growth to social norms, this episode highlights...
Journey to Leadership and Walking with Jesus 11.09.2024 51:44
It’s time for another episode of The Make where we explore what it means to be better disciples and live out the call of Jesus in our everyday lives. This week, we're joined by Robert, our Communications Director, who shares his journey through the MRI program, his leadership role, and the upcoming transition to becoming a pastor. Join us for a fun and insightful conversation about collaborati...
Burn the Ships: Embracing Urgency in Following Jesus 04.09.2024 56:27
Are you coasting through life, feeling worn out and unsure of your purpose? Or perhaps you're thriving in your faith but lack urgency for those in need of hope. In this episode, we explore what it truly means to follow Jesus with total commitment—no turning back. Inspired by the story of Spanish explorer Cortés, who burned his ships to eliminate retreat as an option, we dive into Luke 9:57-62...
Burn the Ships: Unlocking Generosity for Kingdom Impact 28.08.2024 1:00:03
In this episode we dive deep into the heart of generosity and its transformative power in the Kingdom of God. Drawing from personal stories and biblical insights. We explore what it means to give with a cheerful heart and unwavering resolve. Whether you're struggling to start or seeking to deepen your commitment, this conversation will challenge and inspire you to trust God with your resources...
Embrace a New Beginning 21.08.2024 51:03
In this episode, we explore the powerful concept of "burning our ships"—letting go of past regrets, mistakes, and negative attachments that hold us back. Using the story of Matthew, a tax collector transformed by Jesus, we learn the importance of leaving the past behind to fully embrace the future God has for us. We also talk about how God’s grace can radically transform lives. Just like...
Committed To The City 14.08.2024 50:50
In this episode, we delve into what it truly means to love our neighbors, especially those we don't know, those we pass by daily, and those who live and believe differently than we do. We start with a fundamental question: Who is your neighbor? Jesus teaches us through the parable of the Good Samaritan that loving our neighbor goes beyond those we are comfortable with. It means reaching out, r...
Committed to Community 07.08.2024 49:51
In this episode, we explore the vital role of community in our lives, especially in the aftermath of recent global events. Hebrews 10:24-25 teaches us about the importance of motivating one another to acts of love and good works, and the necessity of meeting together for encouragement. We'll share compelling stories from the pandemic, such as the powerful graveside service that highlighted the...
Committed To The Church 31.07.2024 55:12
Join us in our new series, "Committed," where Trevor, Amanda and their guest Grady Barber explore the vital role of the church in today's uncertain world. In this episode, we dive into the powerful message, "A Scared World Needs a Fearless Church." We discuss the church's call to move from panic to promise and the importance of being committed not just to the church but...
Bring Heaven to Earth 24.07.2024 52:08
In this episode, we dive deep into the profound message from Sunday’s sermon on the transformative power of bringing heaven to earth. Life often feels like a relentless struggle, a personal hell filled with diagnoses, job issues, and wayward children. But what if we could change that? What if, through our actions and faith, we could experience and share a piece of heaven right here, right now? Joi...
Peace Over Evil 17.07.2024 45:58
We explore how we can live out the call to be agents of peace in a world often marred by evil and hurt. In this episode, we delve into the profound challenge of responding to pain and abuse not with retaliation, but with grace and peace. We welcome our guest Hillary Grigel who dives into how she found peace through prayer and forgiveness after a very traumatizing event in her life. Visit Hillary&#...
Peacemaker - What if the what if 10.07.2024 48:23
As our culture teeters on the edge of chaos, what if the church "POP" meant something transformative? Instead of protests and division, imagine us becoming "People of Peace." In today's episode, Pastor Trevor and his co host Amanda explore how we can bring Jesus' peace into a turbulent world. We'll delve into Matthew 9:35-38 and discover our calling to be peacemaker...
Navigating Sensitive Topics in Church 29.05.2024 59:55
We discuss our recent sermon series on sexuality, discussing the challenging yet necessary conversations about cultural and personal aspects of this sensitive topic. Join us as we reflect on the unexpected support and engagement from our church community, spanning all ages. FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage Amanda - @miss_amanda_nelson The Make...
Going From Racism To Unity 22.05.2024 1:01:18
In a world that is not black and white, the church and culture have become even more separated. How do we go from racism to unity? FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage Amanda - @miss_amanda_nelson Caitlyn - @caitlynkramer The Make - @themakecommunity OTHER LINKS: Leave us a Message Sunda...
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