Smells Like Smoke

In this episode, we sit down with  Sonia Zarate , Hospitality Director, to talk about the power of making people feel  seen . Sonia shares how welcoming others and inviting them to serve can turn volunteers into family. We explore how living out our faith in everyday moments can help us reach just  one more  for the Kingdom.

On this episode of The Make , we welcome longtime friend and pastor Brad Prunty for a heartfelt conversation about life, ministry, and the rhythms that lead to lasting transformation. From college days in the late ‘90s to Brad’s journey planting and merging churches in Chicagoland, Trevor and Brad reflect on friendship, humility, and building a culture where everyone has a seat at the table. Brad...

This week on The Make , Pastor Trevor DeVage takes us on a powerful and personal journey into the hidden places of our hearts. Inspired by a simple yet profound phrase from our amazing Benson worship leader, Deb Murphy, “May God minister to the parts of our hearts that have not yet been evangelized,” Trevor unpacks what it means to invite the gospel into our deepest wounds, secret struggles, empty...

Today on The Make , we sit down with Pastor Chris Hamlin for a heartfelt reflection on the cost of true worship and how we worship in both the highs and the lows. God desires more than what is easy, and when we choose to worship through our struggles, offering Him the very last of what we have, He meets us with His presence and blessing, knowing exactly what we are facing.

After the tragic loss of her daughter, Debbie Carlson faced heartbreak no parent should endure. In this moving episode, she shares how her faith in God, the power of forgiveness, and the support of her community helped her walk through unimaginable grief. A powerful story of hope, healing, and trusting God in the darkest of times.

In this episode, we sit down with David Miller , who serves and leads as an Elder at Pantano. Together, we explore what it means to encounter God through leadership, ministry, and a life of serving others. We also dive into how AI and digital tools are transforming the way we reach people, helping us expand our impact and share the love of Jesus more effectively in today’s world. Whether you'r...

This week, Trevor DeVage gets real about trust—not as a sermon point, but as a personal battle. In one of the hardest weeks of his life, with his father critically ill, Trevor preached on trust while wrestling with it in real time. This episode is raw, unfiltered, and deeply encouraging. Through stories of hospital rooms, grief, and gut-level faith, Trevor invites us to take just one next faithful...

This week on The Make , Trevor DeVage sits down with Pantano staff members Frank and Janell to talk about what it really means to be “plugged in” to God, especially in times of heartbreak and challenge. They reflect on the summer's powerful student camps, building life-giving culture, and navigating the tragic loss of a local teen. They also share how Pantano is addressing mental health in the...

What if stepping away from your screen could help you reconnect with your soul? In this raw and powerful season premiere of The Make , Trevor sits down with Carlos Whittaker—best-selling author, speaker, and “hope dealer”—to talk about grief, therapy, midlife transformation, and the journey of truly seeing and being seen. Carlos opens up about losing his father, helping his mother find new purpose...

What does it mean when a Navy SEAL says the hardest—and most rewarding—thing he’s ever done is follow Jesus? In this raw and powerful episode, Trevor sits down with Chester Henderson , a former Navy SEAL with over two decades of elite service, now leading in risk management and learning to lead spiritually at home. Chester shares his journey through combat, leadership failures, family redemption,...

What happens when faith gets uncomfortable, language feels like a barrier, and God calls you into the unknown? In this powerful episode of The Make , Pastor Trevor talks with Norma and Liz—two passionate leaders behind Pantano Español and Rooted. You’ll hear the raw, behind-the-scenes stories of resistance, risk, and radical trust in God's vision. From launching a fully Spanish service to the...

Have you ever hit rock bottom? In this episode, Queens-born Navy veteran Joseph opens up about breaking free from family trauma, overwhelming shame, and suicidal thoughts—only to discover lasting hope through faith, community, and the Rooted experience. Host Trevor Devage digs into the power of surrender and accountability, and Joseph leaves you with one challenge that could change every choice yo...

In this episode of The Make , Trevor DeVage welcomes back guest John Cassetto—former Saddleback pastor, worship leader, and Kingdom builder—to talk about what happens when Jesus ruins your ordinary and invites you into extraordinary purpose. From preaching four services to spontaneous moments of worship and real conversations about revival, church culture, and the freedom found in following Jesus,...

In this episode of The Make , Trevor welcomes first-time guest Suzy, a former touring punk rock drummer whose life was radically transformed by an unexpected encounter with Jesus in Germany. From battling addiction and life on the road to leading worship and running her own cleaning business, she shares her deeply personal testimony of redemption, purpose, and the power of prayer. Tune in as she o...

High school students share how Jesus has “ruined” their lives—in the best way—through leading FCA, preaching on tough topics, and planning a powerful worship night. 📅 May 9 | 🏟️ Mica Mountain Football Stadium | ⏰ 6:30–8:30 PM Join this student-led event with live worship, testimonies, and a message of hope.

In this powerful episode of The Make Podcast , Trevor DeVage sits down with graphic designer and everyday faith-warrior Tyler Crawford (aka TC Graphics )—a man who never expected to lead, but stepped up anyway. What happened next? God turned one obedient moment into a ripple effect that changed lives, families, and faith journeys. 🎧 Listen now. Be inspired. Say yes. 🔗 Mentioned Links: Follow Tyl...

On this episode of The Make , we talk about a powerful story of transformation. Saul shares his journey from seeking acceptance in all the wrong places—almost joining a gang—to finding true belonging in Christ. We discuss the lies the world tells us about success, identity, and purpose, and how God's truth breaks through to bring real freedom. Don’t miss this raw, real, and inspiring conversat...

In this episode of The Make , Trevor unpacks the battle between the flesh and the Spirit, diving deeper into the latest message from Pantano’s Live No Lies series. He discusses how the enemy uses disordered desires to disorient us, but Jesus calls us back to His design. Don’t just sit and take—go and make! Tune in and be inspired to feed your soul with God’s truth this week. #TheMakePodcast, #Live...

In this episode of The Make Podcast , we talk in raw and unfiltered conversations filled with humor, honesty, and cultural insights. From playful banter to deep reflections, we explore what it means to communicate across different backgrounds and break through personal barriers. Join us as we embrace laughter, tackle tough topics, and celebrate the beauty of authentic connection.

The church often avoids it, culture distorts it—so let’s talk about it. In this raw and honest episode of The Make , Trevor and Roger Blumenthal break down what the Bible really says about sex, intimacy, and connection. Why does God care about sex? How can we move past guilt and shame? And what does it mean to pursue God’s best in relationships? Whether you're single, dating, or married, this...

In this episode of The Make Podcast , Trevor DeVage goes deep into what it truly means to be a biblical gentleman. He unpacks key traits of godly manhood—sacrificial love, integrity, respect, and character over charm. Hear powerful insights on leadership, relationships, and how men can lead like Jesus. Plus, discover why character outshines charm every time and get a sneak peek into next week’s to...

In this episode, host Trevor DeVage welcomes guest Frank Nichols to discuss their weekly journey of transitioning from ‘Sunday taking’ to ‘everyday making.’ They dive into the significance of student ministry and the power of camps in transforming young lives. Frank shares his passion for the One Day conference and the impact it had on students, as well as the importance of investing in adult lead...

Join Trevor and Sean as they dive into a conversation about faith, community, and the exciting journey of bringing hope to Benson, Arizona. Discover the inspiring story of a 14-year prayer, God’s perfect timing, and the incredible vision for our new campus. If you’re ready to be inspired and see what relentless faith can achieve, this is an episode you don’t want to miss!

In this episode of The Make Podcast, Trevor sits down with Rebecca to discuss how comparison undermines confidence and calling. They explore the dangers of constantly measuring yourself against others and highlight the biblical perspective on embracing your unique purpose. Don't miss this inspiring conversation about living faithfully, loving others well, and turning ordinary moments into extraord...

In this episode of The Make Podcast , Trevor sits down with Amy and Jonathan, leaders of Pantano's student ministry. Discover how they’re shaping a culture where students aren’t just the future—they’re the present. From the growth of the student section on Sundays to game-of-the-week outreach in schools, and the life-changing impact of events like “One Day,” this conversation is packed with inspir...