Dr. Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Elliott)
Sleep Over with Carolyn and Laila
What happens when two modern ladies wake up to their immortal Magickal nature? Well, Carolyn and Laila founded a world-famous initiation into the Western Esoteric Tradition called Sleep Over Mystery School. On this here podcast they have a lot of fun talking amongst themselves and with other initiates and end up sharing ideas about Existential Kink, the Golden Dawn, star friends, Thelema, Aleister Crowley, Carl Jung, the 12 steps, time loops, and the art of being 1980s-style trad wives (the kind who are into diet Coke and having careers).
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Dr. Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Elliott)
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Oct 15, 2025
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Episodes
Existential Kink and Battle Magick 15.02.2024 43:45
Carolyn and Laila hang out at Laila’s kitchen table and talk about the life-saving magick of EK, the crystallization of Wholeness as Battle Magick — and also, Carolyn evidences live, in real time, her Pooh Bear Siddhi of manifesting sweet treats.
Higher Self Remembrance; the Fylgja and Hamingja 15.01.2024 1:09:15
Listen to this if you’re in the mood for a potent distillation of high level magickal knowledge from the Germanic pagan tradition woven into Thelemic and Jungian stuff. Carolyn sits down with her wise husband David Lovewell and their dear friend Frank Cafardi to talk about the Fylgja (the Fetch, anima / animus, HGA) and Hamingja (luck, karma) and how they interact. Carolyn ties it all together at...
Frank the Swordsman and the Great Work 12.01.2024 50:43
While on vacation in Tulum, Carolyn sits down with Frank Cafardi, who is a steelworker, swordsman, left-hand path Germanic pagan practitioner and also her husband David’s best friend. They talk about Frank’s approach to the Great Work via metallurgy and combat arts.
The Traumatic Memory Resolution Project with Dr. Robert and Dr. Luzette McDonald 12.11.2023 33:09
While Laila sleeps in for some much-needed rest, Carolyn sits down for breakfast at the El Segundo Hilton Garden Inn transdimensional vortex of healing to talk with Dr. Robert and Dr. Luzette McDonald about their Traumatic Memory Resolution Project, designed to help people resolve traumatic memories at online events, en masse. Dr. Robert and Dr. Luzette share dramatic stories of painful memories t...
Calcination (Much Improved Audio!): what isn’t true will be burned away 05.11.2023 1:09:53
(First 30 seconds have hiss, after that much better 😇) Carolyn and Laila talk with husbands David and Rory about the magick of honoring your Soul Contract - the perils of straying from the path, and the rewards of submitting to it.
The Magick of Deep Listening & Transformational Storytelling 30.09.2023 36:57
Carolyn & Laila sit down with other initiates of Sleep Over Mystery School and enthusiasts / skeptics of Dr. Robert’s TDM (The Destination Method) to talk about their experiences of deep change and why so many of us have decided to go to Dr. Robert’s upcoming Deep Listening & Transformational Storytelling course, with some of us repeating the course because it’s so dang good. If you’re interested...
Russell Brand & the Sinister Hypnosis 23.09.2023 23:55
1980s trad wives Carolyn and Laila indulge in their monstrous wrongthink one evening at a local playground, whipping up a festival of disdain for mob rule and sympathy for entertaining alleged evil-doers: Lizzo, Bill Murray, and Russell Brand.
Have you been contacted? - the Invisible College, Blue Avians, the Law of One and Ra Hoor Khuit 10.09.2023 47:50
Carolyn, Laila & Rory talk about far-out stuff related to the evolution of culture and consciousness, including the Fourth Turning of the Dharma, and ponder a quote from the Law of One / Ra Material.
More Voices of the Mystery 22.08.2023 59:19
Carolyn & Laila sit down with a group of our wonderful recent 2023 initiates of Sleep Over Mystery School. Our initiates describe how they first felt the pull to join SOMS; how they decided to jump in to the program; the amazing changes they experienced in their lives; and their words of wisdom for future friends who are now contemplating applying for SOMS.
Barbie & Ken’s Alchemical Dream Mirror 29.07.2023 59:21
Carolyn & Laila and their respective husbands David & Rory discuss the hit Barbie movie as an alchemical mirror for relations between men & women today.
Sympathy for the Great Beast 666 - or, Aleister Crowley and the Christ Mandala 01.07.2023 55:14
Carolyn and Laila talk about Carolyn’s recent theory that AC, with all his scandalousness and mythopoetic self-identification as the Great Beast of The Book of Revelations, succeeded in “immanentizing the eschaton” (to borrow a phrase of the late, great Terrence McKenna) and revealing to Western consciousness a new archetype of the whole Self, later elaborated by Carl Jung in his 1951 classic, Aio...
Queer Magickian Jesus with Luis Mojica 11.06.2023 58:20
On a glorious Sunday morning at a Mystery School immersion, Carolyn and Laila sit down to talk with the genius somatic therapist and teacher Luis Mojica about the queerness of the magickian Jesus Christ and what it really takes to embody love and forgiveness.
Relating to the Anima / Animus 03.06.2023 37:47
Carolyn, Laila, and Laila’s boyfriend Rory discuss the complicated relationships between people and their inner others, how this complicates relationships with outer others, and whether the distinction between self and inner other is as distinct as has been presented in the past.
Unraveling the Illusion: Confronting the Shady Union of Intelligence Agencies and Organized Crime 01.06.2023 57:20
On a lovely late spring evening, Laila and Carolyn start out with a leisurely pondering of magickal collaboration with their friend Neil, the set designer and effects producer for Sleep 💤 Over Mystery School. Then things take a dramatic turn when Carolyn starts talking about the mind-blowing revelations of how power really works in our world which she has learned recently from the genius independ...
Bummed About Not Being Enlightened Already? 17.05.2023 44:41
Carolyn & Laila talk about various definitions of enlightenment & how do you know if you’re like, totally enlightened already— or not? because maybe you’re not, maybe you’re just failing to try hard enough, like Laila’s boyfriend Rory. ;)
Thelema, Agape, and Telos in the New Aeon 30.03.2023 39:23
Carolyn & Laila talk about their deeper appreciation of Thelema (“will”) from what they’ve learned of Dr. Robert’s and Dr. Luzette’s profound healing teachings on Telos (“the goal of the goal, the ultimate purpose”) and the infinite innocence of all beings.
Resolving Unnecessary Human Suffering with Dr. Robert & Dr. Luzette McDonald 27.03.2023 59:46
We sit down with the Thrice-Greatest Robert & Luzette McDonald, two astounding beacons of miraculously effective healing ❤️🩹. Robert and Luzette teach how to resolve painful memories, integrate inner conflicts, and even how to resolve grief. In this episode they relate the stories of how they overcame terrible grief from the suicides of loved ones, and how they discovered the world’s most powerf...
Life is Psychedelic 18.02.2023 28:34
Carolyn and Laila talk about the deep self-reflective psychedelic medicine of ritual initiation, and how the universe is constantly fulfilling our wildest dreams and nightmares us to wake us up to our creative, magickal agency
How to Run a Mystery School 18.02.2023 1:04:42
In this episode, Carolyn & Laila talk with their friends and coconspirators Lucy and Elyna about what it really takes to run a Mystery School and to pursue your vocation, and the gifts that are given in return.
The Great Work / the Memory of Love 14.01.2023 38:41
On a lazy Saturday morning with the kids at their grandpappy’s, Carolyn talks with her inspiring & brilliant husband David to get his insights about the nature of the Great Work and the simplest way to create a dense mycelial network of loving benevolence that fruits into a mushroom 🍄 body of trans-Saturnian, trans-temporal consciousness.
Precognitive Dreaming & Retrocausation 11.01.2023 34:01
Carolyn & Laila talk about their delight in the new book by Eric Wargo, Precognitive Dreaming & the Long Self.
Integral Consciousness 28.12.2022 43:54
Carolyn & Laila talk about their enthusiasm for Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory and discuss what it takes to inhabit integral consciousness & eventually grow beyond into transpersonal consciousness.
Abraxas the Rainbow Caterpillar 17.12.2022 52:29
Carolyn makes a special announcement! Then Carolyn & Laila talk about 1) how we’re literally all made up of rainbow crystals 2) how we’re growing in the love of Christ / Dionysus during this advent season 3) finding self-compassion by accepting that exactly everyone is rather miserable and clueless.
More Voices of the Mystery 09.11.2022 1:00:02
After a truly heavenly weekend of training in holding ritual, Carolyn & Laila chill with friends/initiates/Members of the Order and listen to them tell the stories of how making the irrational decision to join a Mystery School was the best thing they ever did for themselves.
Timeline Jumping: Some effort now required 20.10.2022 26:24
Carolyn & Laila discuss the role of love in carrying information between timelines. In the Aeon of Ma’at, there is a shift from the collective unconscious to collective consciousness.
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