Lee David Evans & Richard Johnson

Since Attlee & Churchill

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The podcast about post-war British politics - since Attlee & Churchill. Hosted by Lee David Evans, an historian of the Conservative Party, and Richard Johnson, an historian of the Labour Party. Enjoy ad-free listening, bonus episodes and show your support for the podcast by joining the Since Attlee & Churchill Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/SinceAttleeAndChurchill If you're a fan of the podcast, we would be very grateful if you could leave us a positive review to help other people find us. Thank you! Since Attlee & Churchill is also available on YouTube. Listen and watch the show at: https...

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Lee David Evans & Richard Johnson

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Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Matters of Interest: Clacton in Context & the Risks of Coronation 09.07.2026

This week, Richard and Lee place two of the biggest stories in British politics into their historical context. Richard explores the curious history of MPs who have voluntarily triggered by-elections – upon accepting ministerial appointment, changing parties, or as a form of policy protest – and asks where Nigel Farage's decision to force a contest in Clacton fits within that tradition. Lee then ex...

Summer Book Club: A Shellshocked Nation 05.07.2026

Throughout the summer, we'll be interviewing authors of recent books that chime with the themes of the podcast. This week, we're joined by historian and author Alwyn Turner to discuss his latest book, 'A Shellshocked Nation'. In this sweeping portrait of Britain between the wars, Alwyn reveals far more than the political history of the period, uncovering remarkable cultural, technological and soci...

The Declaration of Independence at 250: Myths, Monarchy & the American Revolution 02.07.2026

As we approach the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, Richard presents a special edition of the podcast exploring one of the world's most famous documents. As he argues, most people know the Declaration of Independence’s opening words about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But what about the rest of it? Richard makes the case that far from being an attack on the princ...

Cameron’s Referendums Ep 3 of 3: Brexit 28.06.2026

We’ve reached the finale of our miniseries of David Cameron’s gambles with referendums: the vote on whether Britain should remain in, or leave, the European Union. In this episode, Lee and Richard discuss why Cameron agreed to hold a referendum; the circumstances in which he made good on that pledge; the approach he took to negotiations; and how the campaign eventually unfolded. And of course, as...

Matters of Interest: Contrasting Starmer’s departure with other PMs 25.06.2026

In this episode, Lee and Richard discuss the headline political news of the week: the forthcoming resignation of Keir Starmer. Lee considers why prime ministers so often fail to use the rules and tools at their disposal to resist leadership challenges more aggressively, arguing that nobody has really done so since John Major in 1995. Richard then looks at how Tony Blair managed the pressure on his...

Brexit Referendum: 10 Years On - Special Episode with Matthew Elliott 23.06.2026

Ten years after the landmark referendum that set Britain on course to leave the European Union, what really went on behind the scenes of the campaign that transformed British politics? In this special episode of Since Attlee & Churchill, Lee and Richard are joined by Matthew Elliott, the former Chief Executive of Vote Leave (and previously Political Director of No to AV), to discuss his new bo...

Cameron’s Referendums Ep 2 of 3: Scottish Independence 21.06.2026

In 2014, the very existence of the United Kingdom was on the ballot when Scotland voted on whether to sever its ties with the rest of the UK. In this episode, Lee and Richard discuss how devolution became the platform from which Alex Salmond and the Scottish National Party made the case for independence; the complacency of the UK Government over the answer Scotland would give; and the scrappy way...

Matters of Interest: The Order of the Garter and the Tyranny of the Benefit-Cost Ratio 18.06.2026

In this episode, Lee and Richard reflect on attending the installation service for the Order of the Garter at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, where they witnessed the induction of Peter Hennessy. But instead of being misty-eyed about the ceremony, should they have been more critical of this (allegedly) anachronistic hangover? Next, they turn to the Treasury's Green Book, the framework that guides gov...

Cameron’s Referendums Ep 1 of 3: The Alternative Vote 14.06.2026

Lee and Richard are kicking off a new miniseries looking at the three major referendums David Cameron held as Prime Minister: on the electoral system, on the status of Scotland, and on Britain’s membership of the European Union. This first vote - widely seen as the least significant and also therefore the least well remembered - nevertheless prompted some important questions about how Britain choo...

Matters of Interest: Live Audience Q&A 11.06.2026

After giving a talk at the Manchester Histories Festival, Richard and Lee were joined by listeners to the show for a live Q&A. Questions ranged from how to get into history (especially if you don't go to university) and which TV programmes offer the most accurate representations of politics, to whether First Past the Post will survive and the political career of local Manchester MP Lucy Powell...

Who are Manchester’s great forgotten MPs? Live from the Manchester Histories Festival 07.06.2026

In this special live recording of the podcast at the Manchester Histories Festival, Lee and Richard discuss four MPs, all with Manchester connections, who made an important (but largely forgotten) contribution to British politics: John Robert Clynes, Florence Horsbrugh, Harold Lever and Anthony Barber. Who were they? How did they come to represent Greater Manchester constituencies? And what is the...

Matters of Interest: Proportional Representation (Dutch-Style) & the English Countryside 04.06.2026

To kick off this midweek episode of Since Attlee & Churchill, Richard discusses an article he has recently read about the impact of proportional representation on forming governments in the Netherlands. Should advocates of PR in this country pay more attention to the potential drawbacks of the system they support? Next, Lee reflects on discovering a description of England and its place in an a...

Is Makerfield the new Chesterfield? 31.05.2026

This episode focuses on a former Labour MP who tried to return to Parliament in a by-election. If successful, he was expected to launch a challenge to the sitting leader - who was reluctant to see him return. On that occasion, the provocateur wasn’t Andy Burnham, but Tony Benn. In this episode, Richard and Lee discuss the 1984 Chesterfield by-election that Benn contested - how it came about, what...

Matters of Interest: Should there have been more defections? & ‘Rivals’ 28.05.2026

In this mid-week episode, Lee begins by asking why, given the enormous change in the voting habits of British voters over the last decade, we’ve not seen more defections among MPs. Next, Richard wonders why the hit Disney+ show ‘Rivals’ gets so many of the details wrong about 1980s politics - carelessness, or purposeful Americanisation?  BOOK NOW: Tickets are available for our live event in M...

Strikes of the 20th Century: Thatcher vs The Miners (1984-5) 24.05.2026

In the final episode of their strikes miniseries, Richard and Lee look back to one of the defining moments of Margaret Thatcher’s premiership: the year-long battle with the National Union of Mineworkers in the mid 1980s. Many Conservatives feared another showdown with the miners would bring the government down, as it did under Heath. But having spent years preparing for a strike, Thatcher and her...

Matters of Interest: Gaming Devolution & Streeting’s Strategy 21.05.2026

Lee opens up this mid-week episode by looking at the way politicians increasingly flitter between the Westminster Parliament and devolved bodies. Most prominently at the moment, Andy Burnham - who had 16 years experience as an MP under his belt before becoming Mayor of Greater Manchester - is seeking a return to the Commons. But also in Scotland, Stephen Flynn has traded being an MP to become an M...

Strikes of the 20th Century: Heath vs The Miners (1972-4) 17.05.2026

In this episode, Richard and Lee fast forward almost half a century from the General Strike to the next time mineworkers walked out across the country. Twice in two years, Conservative Prime Minister Edward Heath went to war with the National Union of Mineworkers (or as he saw it, they went to war with him) and Heath came out the worst on both occasions. He appeared to learn the wrong lessons from...

Strikes of the 20th Century: The General Strike (Part 2) 15.05.2026

In this second instalment looking back at the General Strike of 1926, Lee and Richard pick up the story with millions of workers on strike and parts of the country brought to a standstill. To begin the episode, they debate the role of Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin - with Lee making a much more positive case for his role - before Richard explains how the only General Strike in British history came...

Matters of Interest: Losing (and choosing) Party Leaders 14.05.2026

With the country gripped by speculation over Keir Starmer’s future, Lee and Richard look back on the way recent prime ministers have fallen and how the next prime minister may be chosen. Lee begins by considering what stands out from the downfall of Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Liz Truss - focusing particularly on the difference between losing the authority to govern and then subsequently losin...

Strikes of the 20th Century: The General Strike (Part 1) 10.05.2026

Richard and Lee kick off a new miniseries on the strikes that shaped the 20th century by looking back one hundred years to the first, and so far only, General Strike in British history. When a slump in the profitability of coal met with the demands of the mineworkers, few could see a peaceful way out. At first, the government provided the money to bridge the gap between what coal paid and what the...

Matters of Interest: Putting the Local Elections in Context & Raising the Flag 07.05.2026

In this mid-week episode, Lee starts by considering one of the possible comparisons for Labour’s performance in this week’s local elections: 1995, the nadir of John Major’s leadership of the Tory Party. Will Keir Starmer’s party do better, or worse, and what will it mean for his leadership? Lee then offers a tentative prediction on who may end up being the biggest party in English local government...

Local Elections Special: Labour's 1968 Battering at the Polls 03.05.2026

As millions of voters across the United Kingdom head to the polls this week, Lee and Richard discuss one of the worst local election results ever for a government. In 1968, Labour suffered a near wipe-out in large parts of London and was almost wholly rejected by voters in many English and Scottish cities. Why was Harold Wilson and his party so unpopular? What were the consequences for Wilson's le...

Matters of Interest: Rent Controls & the King’s Maiden Speech in the House of Lords 30.04.2026

Following the rumours that the government is considering introducing rent controls, Richard reflects on the way in which private rents were controlled and regulated for much of the twentieth century in Britain. What was the impact then? And ought similar to be considered today - or are there better alternatives? Next, Lee takes us back to June 1974 when a young Prince of Wales (now Charles III) ad...

How political was Elizabeth II? 26.04.2026

This week marked 100 years since the birth of Elizabeth II, Britain’s longest-reigning monarch. In this episode, Lee and Richard ask how political she was during her record-breaking reign. Lee argues that there are seven legitimate ways in which a monarch can do or say political things, and Richard and Lee then explore - and debate - the times they happened and the consequences of them in a democr...

Matters of Interest: Is Britain Broken? & Lessons from Mandelson's Appointment 23.04.2026

Lee kicks off this midweek edition of 'Since Attlee & Churchill' by unpacking one of the emerging divides on the British right: is the country broken? Reform seems to think so, and the Conservatives not. But what does it mean to label a country as broken? And what would the policy consequences of such a condition be? Next, Richard argues that there is nothing wrong with Prime Ministers making...

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