Sarah McAfee

Shrubbish: A Sober Drinks & Thinks Podcast

Arts EN ↓ 31 episodes

There's plenty of content out there about alcohol. Everybody loves cocktails and mixology, right? But what about those of us who have stopped drinking -- whatever the reason? Shrubbish: A Sober Drinks & Thinks Podcast aims to explore the world beyond booze. From lightly fermented drinks around the world to health claims and beverage apparatuses, Sarah investigates a variety of beverage-related topics, along with discussing her own personal relationship with addiction and recovery. Plus, every episode includes a taste & review of everyone's favorite little sprit-free elixir: The Shrub. Bespoke...

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Sarah McAfee

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Latest episode

May 15, 2026

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Episodes

The Novelty Sodas 15.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Go back in time with Sarah and The Shrub as they get into some strange flavored pops, novelty drinks, and retired sodas. This lighthearted episode is full of gratitude for living sober, the sober journey, and all the fun we can have when we go for it. *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_(drink) https://www.bonappetit.com/story/save-tab-soda-interview?srsltid=AfmBOopduhSk3I6jdpOI...

The Snapple 10.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Sarah and The Shrub explore some fun history and facts surrounding everyone's favorite juicy, fruity, flavored-tea beverage with a pop: Snapple! Also, Drinking Dreams, and a scrumptious dessert (or breakfast!) themed shrub based on a classic. This is not an official sponsorship of Snapple. No endorsements were made for the production of this episode. *** http...

The Flavors 27.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub get into natural & artificial flavorings, flavorists, flavor houses, a little bit of science, a little bit of cultural fun facts - it's a classic Shrubbish episode! Also, the challenges of dealing with moderating addictions when abstinence is not possible.  *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Croix_Sparkling_Water ​​ https://nutrisci.wisc.edu/2021/07/...

The Hop Water 13.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub discuss the 100% zero proof, 100% refreshing beverage: Hop Water. From the plant-parts behind it all (hops) to it's "f around and find out" origins in the home brewing community, and it's place in the wellness sector today, hop into spring with this one! Also, Sarah reflects on her connection between suburban stress / isolation and drinking....

The Dry Ice 13.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub investigate Dry Ice - from a little bit of science, history, and common uses for the super cold sublimating product! Including how to safely use dry ice in your favorite mocktail. Also, another nod to community. And the nuances & uniqueness of the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous, and how you do not have to have a higher power to get sober. https://en.wik...

The Tonic 30.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub visit South America, India, Sri Lanka, Europe....not really (you know no one is really traveling on this show, right?) but the history of Tonic Water takes you all over the map! From the Peruvian tree that started it all, to some wacky historical cures for malaria, this episode investigates everything Tonic Water -- including actual mocktail recommendations! Al...

The Honey - Pt. 2! 16.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub (a particularly good one!) expand on honey by putting their paws in pots of fermented honey, honeydew, and propolis -- figuratively, of course. Also, how do sober communities respond to or offer invitations for celebration and community without the classic one liner "can I buy you a drink?" *** https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s_mk7zGYDA8 https://www.di...

The Honey 02.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub start in on a honey-centric two-parter with a little background on bees, honey production, and health benefits, in anticipation of more honey loving to come! Also, a look at that "fresh restart" that comes with the new year, seasonal depression, and the cycle of going on a bender. *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey - Base Article https://www.hone...

The Tepache 19.12.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub(s) go south of the border for this week's ancient fermented beverages, with notes of pineapple, corn, brown sugar, and funk. Also, on that big first step of admitting you have a problem, and asking for help. * * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tepache https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tejuino https://imbibemagazine.com/tepache-traditional-to-mexico-cautiously-fi...

The Kvass 05.12.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub get sour and funky with the discovery of yet ANOTHER ancient fermented beverage, and talk flights - in more ways than one. * * https://www.americastestkitchen.com/recipes/13457-cranberry-shrub-syrup https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2024/03/29/expo-west-banana-water-s-clean-label-features-one-ingredient/ https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-make-banana-wate...

The Suck: Straws 14.11.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub journey to the land of straws, and reflect on the joy of simply...being.  * * * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_straw# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Cress https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/business/plastic-straws-ban-fact-check-nyt.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/11/world/europe/metal-straws-death.html ht...

The Nut Milk 31.10.2025

Send us Fan Mail Happy Halloween! This episode has nothing to do with Halloween, but everything to do with plant-based milks. Also, Sarah and The Shrub reflect on how moving towards healthier habits can actually feel a little bitter sweet. ig: @shrubbish_pod email: shrubbishpodcast@gmail.com While I want to bring levity to the table, this podcast does contain descriptions of substance abuse. If yo...

The Matcha 17.10.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub discover there is so much more to matcha than meets the eye! Also, what might it be like to re-frame how we approach the challenges of getting sober? * * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matcha#Introduction_of_powdered_tea https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/14/dining/matcha.html?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_content=ig-nytcooking&utm_medium=instagram&utm_so...

The Sourdough 03.10.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub go further down the path of fermentation with sourdough bread making, and ponder over the practice of self reflection through writing.  * * * https://en.muehlerama.ch/ausstellungen/detail/das-brot-aus-dem-see-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sourdough https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/learn/guides/sourdough ig: @shrubbish_pod email: shrubbishpodcast@gmail.com Whi...

The Eternity Grains: Kefir 17.09.2025

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub are back with more NA drinky fun, journeying to North Caucasia and back to explore Kefir, what it means to slow down, and of course....tasting a fresh (or not so fresh) shrub. ****** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Kefir https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/9-health-benefits-of-kefir https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/artic...

The OK Soda 13.11.2024

Send us Fan Mail Take a trip to the 90's with Sarah and The Shrub as they digest a major beverage brand's hilarious flop *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Soda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke   https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/ok-soda-coca-cola-history *** ig: @shrubbish_pod email: shrubbishpodcast@gmail.com While I want to bring levity to the table, this podcast does contain...

The Apple Cider (and Johnny Appleseed) 04.10.2024

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub go a little off topic with the history of apple cider, but the main event is 100% that lanky woodsy wanderer: Johnny Appleseed. *** https://cider.wsu.edu/history-of-cider/   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_cider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucQKLWYBgeU https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ancient-origins-apple-cider-180960662/   https://www.national...

The Aguas Frescas 24.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail Journey to Mexico (and Brooklyn!) with Sarah and The Shrub as they talk about the thirst quenching Agua Fresca, indie concerts, favorite firsts, tacos, and more. *** - “Agua Fresca” (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_fresca - Guzmán, Alicia Inez. “The Beauty of Aguas Frescas” New Mexico Magazine , 2 April 2019. https://www.newmexicomagazine.org/blog/post/matteos-aguas-...

The Oxymel 11.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail Take a trip to Ancient Greece with Sarah and The Shrub as they chat about a little tincture not too far off from shrubs - The Oxymel! *** - “Oxymel” (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymel - Slagle, Ali. “Oxymel is the Tart, Herbal Tonic You Can Make at Home.” Bon Appetite , 2 Nov. 2017. https://www.bonappetit.com/story/make-oxymel-herbal-tonic - Deluca, Leo, “Ancient Hon...

The Booch: Kombucha 26.06.2024

Send us Fan Mail Get your fermentation on whith Sarah and The Shrub covering Kombucha! Also a little story (some might say rant...) from a recent weird event, and a spicy face-off between two shrubs. *** - “Kombucha” (Wikipedia). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha   - Zeratsky, Katherine. Mayo Clinic Consumer Health. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/expert-answers/k...

The Kava 12.06.2024

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub delve into the history, pharmacology, and brewing of the psychoactive beverage Kava. ***  - “Kava” (Wikipedia). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava - “Lapita Culture” (Wikipedia). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapita_culture - “Kavalactone” (Wikipedia). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavalactone - “Kava.” Alcohol and Drug Foundation , 06 June 2024.  https://adf.o...

The Boba 29.05.2024

Send us Fan Mail Sarah and The Shrub cover the history and making of Bubble Tea, and discuss a little about her experience with AA. Potential (NA) drinking game: count how many times she says the word "boba". *** - “Bubble Tea” (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_tea - “Tapioca Pearl” (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapioca_pearl - “Popping Boba” (Wikipedia) https:...

The Coffee - Part 2! 15.05.2024

Send us Fan Mail Let's wrap this bad boy up. Brewing methods, grinders, what's a latte vs. a cappuccino? Sarah and The Shrub cover all kinds of basics on what goes into your favorite cup of coffee. *** - “Kopi Luwak” (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak - “5 Things to Know About Cold Brew.” Kaldi’s Coffee Roasting Company, 5 May 2023. https://kaldiscoffee.com/blogs/news/5...

The Coffee - Part 1! 01.05.2024

Send us Fan Mail We've got a two-parter folks! There's just so. much. to. learn. about. coffee. Here's a *wee* bit of history, and what's going on with the plant itself. Also, Sarah and The Shrub are joined by a surprise beverage guest! *** - Beller, Debra. “How Coffee Works.” HowStuffWorks.com . https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/coffee.htm/printab...

The Buzz: Caffeine 17.04.2024

Send us Fan Mail Oh no, not another podcast episode about caffeine! How many cups of coffee do you think Sarah and The Shrub had before this episode? *** Sources - Grisel, Judith. Never Enough: The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction . Anchor Books, 2019. -W. Bryant, Charles & Clark, Josh, hosts. “The Duality of Caffeine.” Stuff You Should Know , iHeartPodcasts, 16 Jan. 2016. https://podc...

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