Vanda Pokecz & Björn Darko

SEO Product Unveiled - Rank and Rethink

Welcome to SEO Product Unveiled—where SEO meets Product Management. As the SEO industry shifts toward product-led strategies, many lack clarity on how Product Management works. This podcast bridges the gap, exploring proven frameworks, workflows, and techniques from Product Management that align perfectly with SEO. Whether you’re an SEO aiming to collaborate better or a Product Manager curious about SEO’s potential, you’ll find actionable tips, insights, and strategies to drive impactful results and create exceptional digital experiences.

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Vanda Pokecz & Björn Darko

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Technology

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Latest episode

Feb 9, 2026

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Episodes

Navigating SEO Tooling: Internal vs. External Strategies | Ep. 14 09.02.2026

In this episode of the SEO-Produkt Unvieled Podcast, hosts Björn Darko and Vanda Pokecz delve into the critical topic of tooling in SEO, contrasting internal and external tools. They discuss the limitations of external tools, such as Google Analytics, and the importance of developing internal tools tailored to specific business needs. The conversation highlights the necessity for SEO teams to have...

Risk Registers, Rollbacks & Resilient Migrations — How to Manage Product + SEO Risk at Scale | Ep.13 14.01.2026

Shipping product changes without a risk framework is how “small” decisions turn into big traffic, revenue, legal, or technical incidents. In this episode, we break down practical risk management for product-led SEO and platform work: how to define risk categories (market, financial, technical, legal, management), build a lightweight risk register, score impact and blast radius, set leading indicat...

Mastering Sprint Planning for SEOs — with Gus Pelogia | Ep.12 24.11.2025

In this episode of  SEO Product Unveiled , Björn and Vanda welcome  Gus Pelogia , Senior SEO Product Manager at Indeed, to unpack one of the most misunderstood yet critical product ceremonies:  Sprint Planning . They discuss how SEOs can collaborate effectively with engineering and product teams, what makes a good sprint-ready ticket, and why understanding technical complexity is essential to avoi...

AI in Action: Driving Business Value Beyond the Buzz | Ep. 11 01.09.2025

In this episode, Björn Darko and Vanda Pokecz delve into the real business applications of AI beyond the Chat-GPT hype. They discuss concrete use cases that create efficiency and new value, highlighting how companies leverage AI to generate genuine business impact. From automating product descriptions to integrating AI into SEO strategies, this episode offers valuable insights for anyone looking t...

Measure What Matters: SEO KPIs for Product-Led Growth | Ep. 10 09.07.2025

🎧  Episode Summary In this episode,  Vanda Pokecz  and  Björn Darko  explore the critical role of KPIs in SEO. They break down the  KPI Pyramid , covering strategic, product-level, and operational metrics. With real-world examples—like how internal linking can significantly boost organic traffic—they provide insights into how to align SEO with business goals. The conversation also highlights comm...

Cracking the Code: Estimating SEO Impact with Confidence | #9 23.06.2025

🧠  Episode Summary In this episode of  SEO Product Unveiled , hosts  Björn Darko  and  Vanda Pokecz  dive deep into the complex world of  SEO impact estimation and prioritisation frameworks . From ICE and RICE to hybrid approaches, they explore why forecasting SEO outcomes is so difficult, how to deal with uncertainty, and how to keep stakeholders aligned through transparency and structured commu...

Roadmapping in SEO - A tool for planning & communication | #8 26.05.2025

Summary In this episode of  SEO Product Unveiled , Vanda Pokecz and Björn Darko discuss the importance of roadmapping in product strategy. They explore various aspects of roadmapping, including its definition, proactive and reactive planning, communication with other teams, and the role of storytelling. The discussion also covers common roadmapping mistakes and the need to manage expectations and...

Scaling in SEO: Strategies & Challenges | #7 12.05.2025

🎙️ Episode Summary In this episode,  Björn Darko  and  Vanda Pokecz  dive into the challenges and strategies of scaling in SEO. They highlight the importance of hypotheses and testing, automation in content creation, internal linking, site migrations, and cultural differences in SEO strategy. The conversation also includes practical examples and emphasizes the critical role of processes and teamwo...

Product Delivery in SEO | #6 31.03.2025

Summary In this episode of the  SEO Product Unveiled  podcast, Björn Darko and Vanda Pokecz dive into the essential aspects of SEO product discovery, including planning, sprint management, ticket creation, and quality assurance. They highlight the importance of clear communication between SEO specialists, product managers, and developers in order to build effective solutions and successfully imple...

Product Discovery in SEO | #5 17.03.2025

Summary In this episode of the podcast, Björn Darko and Vanda Pokecz discuss the significance and process of product discovery in the context of SEO and product management. They share personal experiences and practical examples to illustrate how product discovery serves as a strategic tool for identifying problems and developing innovative solutions. The discussion also highlights the challenges a...

The SEO Canvas – Creating Real Value for Your Users | #4 24.02.2025

In this episode, Björn and Vanda discuss various aspects of product management, focusing on the integration of SEO strategies and customer journey frameworks. They highlight the importance of intent in content creation and explore how to effectively shape the customer journey to increase conversion rates. Additionally, the SEO Canvas is introduced as a tool for value creation and improved team com...

SEO & Stakeholders: Navigating Common Pitfalls for Better Collaboration | #3 10.02.2025

Summary In this episode of the  SEO Product Unveiled  podcast, Björn Darko and Vanda Pókecz discuss the challenges and strategies of stakeholder management for SEOs. They emphasize the importance of building strong relationships with stakeholders, prioritizing SEO initiatives, and ensuring clear communication between SEO teams and technical departments. The episode also highlights the role of data...

Putting your customer into perspective in SEO | #2 27.01.2025

The podcast episode discusses the use of frameworks in product management and SEO, focusing on three key frameworks:  Jobs-to-be-Done (JTBD) ,  Opportunity Solution Tree (OST) , and  Customer Journey Mapping (CJM) . The hosts, Björn and Vanda, explore how these frameworks help SEOs and product teams align their strategies with user needs, business goals, and technical feasibility. The conversation...

SEO Product Unveiled - Rank & Rethink Trailer 13.01.2025

Welcome to  SEO Product Unveiled —where SEO meets Product Management. As the SEO industry shifts toward product-led strategies, many lack clarity on how Product Management works. This podcast bridges the gap, exploring proven frameworks, workflows, and techniques from Product Management that align perfectly with SEO. Whether you’re an SEO aiming to collaborate better or a Product Manager curious a...

How agile frameworks can help SEO | #1 13.01.2025

In this episode, Björn and Vanda discuss how Agile frameworks, specifically Scrum and Kanban, can be incredibly helpful for SEOs. They explain that Agile is all about flexibility, iterative progress, and good collaboration. They dive into the Agile manifesto, which consists of four core values: individuals and interactions over processes and tools, working software over comprehensive documentation...

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