Neha Balamurugan, Elsa Bismuth

Second Order

Business EN ↓ 6 episodes

Hosted by two Stanford graduate students, Neha and Elsa, Second Order explores the mental models and skills that make us better entrepreneurs. Through deep conversations with experts who’ve built, led, or studied what actually works, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the habits, frameworks, and decisions that drive meaningful impact. If you're building something (or thinking about it) this is your space to think a layer deeper.

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Neha Balamurugan, Elsa Bismuth

Episodes

From Scrubs to Startups: Why Doctors Choose to Build 10.11.2025 30:38

In this episode, Dr. Derek Paul , physician-turned-founder and CEO of Glass Health , joins Elsa to discuss the mindset shift from medicine to entrepreneurship—and how clinical reasoning can shape the way we build AI. Backed by Y Combinator and Breyer Capital , Glass Health began as a digital notebook for doctors and evolved into a leading platform for AI-powered clinical decision support. Derek ex...

From Code to Care: How AI Is Transforming Modern Medicine 27.10.2025 26:48

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Matt Lungren , Chief Scientific Officer at Microsoft Health & Life Sciences and former Stanford radiologist, to explore how AI is truly reshaping healthcare—beyond the buzzwords . We discuss how Microsoft’s new multi-agent orchestration frameworks could change the game for hospitals—turning tools like Teams into intelligent ecosystems where agents collabor...

Building in Clusters: Elad Gil on Career Strategy, the role of a CEO, and AI's Next Frontier 14.10.2025 36:18

What separates careers that plateau from those that keep accelerating? Elad Gil has some surprising answers. Today's guest is Elad Gil, serial entrepreneur, investor, and author who's been at the center of Silicon Valley's biggest shifts for over two decades. We explore why location and industry clusters matter more than most people realize, how the best CEOs adapt their leadership as...

Sketching Your Tomorrow with James Landay 23.06.2025 40:50

What does Stanford’s James Landay believe will be the next paradigm of computing ? You’ll have to listen in to find out 👀 Today’s guest is Professor James Landay, Stanford Computer Science faculty and co-director of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI. In this episode, we explore how sharp UX and smart data drive entrepreneurial wins. From early-stage validation to spatial computing, sto...

How To Train Your Founder: Keegan Cooke on Systems Frameworks 09.06.2025 46:47

What do mud-powered science kits, Stanford's Startup Garage, and systems thinking have in common? Keegan Cooke. In this episode, we sit down with the Director of Stanford Ecopreneurship to unpack what it really takes to train future founders. From turning microbial fuel cells into an educational startup to mentoring students through the chaos of early-stage ventures, Keegan shares the mental model...

Talk Data To Me: Christina Wodtke on Storytelling 28.05.2025 45:20

Why do some stories stick and others vanish the moment they’re told? In this episode of Second Order , we dive into the art and utility of storytelling with Christina Wodtke, Stanford lecturer, startup veteran, and author of Radical Focus and Present Yourself . Christina has spent her career helping people and teams find clarity through OKRs, better communication, and yes, sharper stories. We expl...