Schurtz&Ties
Schurtz and Ties: A podcast about education and culture
Inspired by the classroom, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller wrestle with how to become better teachers, leaders, and people. Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivePD.com and is a proud member of the TeachBetter Podcast Network. You can find out more about Brian and Kasey, discover resources, and enjoy more content on their website, SchurtzandTies.com.
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Jun 21, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 51. AI and education's obligation. 13.11.2023 53:10
Education failed to prepare students for the Internet. With AI, we can't make the same mistake. In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss ways in which educators can safely and holistically incorporate AI, which includes diving deeper into humanity. Plans that include: - Inviting local experts - Build career pathways with AI - Create a group of dedicated educators who will help develop guiding...
Ep. 50: "A cat won't follow a lemming off a cliff" and other educational sayings that don't exist. 05.11.2023 52:13
To celebrate 50 episodes, we check in and acknowledge the high and lows of the school year, reflect on what we've learned, and try our best to sound smarter than we are. Educational sayings that don't exist, but could: If you only top off your coffee with creamer, eventually all you have is a cup of creamer and no coffee. Even God needed a New Testament You can’t find a light switch in the...
Ep. 49: Can Education be a System of Profound Knowledge? 29.10.2023 55:25
Should schools be systems-based or people-based? Can it be both? Based on the profound insight of William Denning, Kasey and Brian wrestle with the limitations and opportunities of systems in education. Do we manage failure or investigate its causes? Are our systems failing or our people struggling? Whose seat is missing at the table? Do numbers really matter? Let us know what you think! We're...
Ep. 48: Get your hands dirty. Engage in the mess. Find solutions. 22.10.2023 47:58
“People without dirty hands are wrong. Doing something makes you right.” In this episode, Brian and Kasey dive into the fears and realities of diving into the lives of the people around us, they acknowledge the difficulties and fears of doing so, and wrestle with real solutions that provide us with real outcomes. "Find the beauty in others. If all you see is the ugly, you're not looking c...
Ep. 47: The Cult of Done. Is it worth throwing away? 15.10.2023 48:26
Are we truly done, or merely exhausted? Are we ready to throw it away, or simply fearful of getting our hands dirty? In this episode, Brian and Kasey wrestle with what it truly means to be done with systems, processes, even people. References: The Cult of Done. Show Sponsors: Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivenPD, a teacher training platform that brings "candid conversations from some...
Ep. 46: Safe, secure, and stable. A reflection of over 40 years. 08.10.2023 52:19
Mr. Moore has served in the education world for over 40 years as a teacher, principal , and superintendent. In this episode, he reflects on his time, this profession, and the foundational purpose of education. Thank you, Mr Moore, for your years of dedication, and for sharing your journey and wisdom with us. Show Sponsors: Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivenPD, a teacher training platform...
Ep. 45: The destructive and constructive nature of comparison. 01.10.2023 55:04
As educators, we often feel isolated. Sometimes its because we feel less then others and are fearful we will be discovered as a fraud. Other times, we feel isolated because we are successful and we are afraid the spotlight will only isolate us more. Both are unfair. Both are destructive. In this episode, Brian and Kasey talk about the pitfalls of comparisons, the manifestations of its destructive...
Ep. 44: The Future of Schools, Now 24.09.2023 47:09
Are schools broken? Or do they simply need some change? In this episode, Kasey and Brian discuss the current condition of schools, what the future of schools could look like, and how we can cause a ruckus right now. Show Sponsors: Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivenPD, a teacher training platform that brings "candid conversations from some of the best classroom educators in the countr...
Ep. 43: Be a Ruckus Maker, with Danny Bauer 17.09.2023 49:00
"Ideas are great but not the greatest." In this episode, Danny Bauer explains why Ruckus Makers have a bias for action and a passion for change. And they do so by telling stories. Mr. Danny Bauer is a principal development & retention expert, 2x best selling author , host of two of the world's most downloaded podcasts , and Chief Ruckus Maker. He founded Better Leaders Better Sch...
Ep 42: Safe vs Brave Schools. 11.09.2023 51:05
Are safe spaces coddling the young mind? Are brave spaces empowering the fringe? And is there a healthy marriage of the two? In this episode, Brian and Kasey wrestle through the history of safe spaces, discuss its flaws, and consider a better, braver, and more appropriate way to raise up the current and future generations. References: - The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Ba...
Ep 41. "Localize your message" and how best to embrace the hard, with Jenn Ford 02.09.2023 45:54
Graduate of Georgetown and the University of Colorado, President and founder of the Frederick Mountain Group, and a wilderness guide for seven years, Jennifer Ford brings the good and powerful word! Speaking truth into public school marketing strategies and how best to engage in difficult conversations with passionate or politically charged parents, Jenn Ford breaks down how public educators can p...
Ep. 40: "Sharpen Your Ax" : Spend time focusing on humans 27.08.2023 45:39
Education is an exhausting profession. It is a service profession. And if we're not careful, it can get the best of us and steal our ability to give our best. In this episode, Kasey and Brian talk about how we can stay healthy, be mindful, and "sharpen our ax." What dulls the ax? Physical Exhaustion Emotional Suppression Social Demands Mental Performance How can we sharpen the ax? Ph...
Ep. 39: "You. Belong. Here." Three intentional ways to create a culture of belonging 20.08.2023 39:10
Being a member of a community, a tribe, is a basic human need. In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss how to build a culture of belonging by emphasizing the key components of healthy community, namely: acknowledging the unique selves, providing an opportunity to serve, and emphasizing the importance of now. References: Building Belonging with Superintendent Kristi Dominguez, Outliars in Educatio...
Ep. 38: Start the Year off Strong. Lean into who you are 18.08.2023 37:30
How we start the year will set the tone for the year. In this episode, Brian and Kasey share some of their strategies for starting the year of strong with intentionality and authenticity. Light up the room: Be optimistic, lean into who you are, and shape the narrative. Make the intangible, tangible: Help staff and students remember Why we are here and what we're about. Make people feel at home...
Ep. 37: What are you hankerin' for? 06.08.2023 45:55
Welcome back! Hopefully you have found ways to disconnect and recharge for the coming year. We also hope (and anticipate) that you are getting excited for the coming year! In this episode, Kasey and Brian share what they are "hankerin' for" this coming year. From eliminating "friction points," working on student behaviors, to engaging in the Six Working Geniuses, we are rea...
Ep. 36: Favorite fictional teachers and what they teach us about being human. 02.07.2023 51:33
From Mr. Feeny to Mr. Holland and Mrs Johnson, Kasey and Brian discuss a variety of fictional (and nonfictional) teachers who have inspired them to be better teachers, educators, and people. Let us know who we missed and what you think of our list! Teachers Mentioned: Mr. Feeny (Boy Meets World) Mr Rogers ( The Good Neighbor: The Life and Work of Fred Rogers ) Mr Keeting (Dead Poets Society) Mr Ho...
Ep. 35: Chatbot, the psychology of free, and the discomfort of leadership. A barstool conversation 25.06.2023 35:12
Continuing our summer theme of lighter and quicker topics, in this episode, Brian and Kasey cover a range of "under cooked topics" from an update on ChatGPT, should public education be free?, whether teachers be held accountable for posting grievances on TikTok, and more. Episodes Referenced: Ep. 15: ChatGPT is going to disrupt education. Here's how we can (and should) embrace it. Ep...
Ep. 34: Summer Soundtrack (APPLE PODCAST RELEASE w/o music) 18.06.2023 21:26
As educators, summer is an important time for us to refresh, renew, and regroup. This summer playlist can help! Whether you're on a road trip, hanging out by the pool, or enjoying an evening with family and friends, check out these songs and allow them to inspire your summer, relax your mind, and renew your spirit. Happy Summer! Enjoy. And happy birthday to Kasey! He turns 45 today. Songs: I L...
Ep. 33: #KeepKnocking : The Art of Never Giving Up on People 11.06.2023 45:03
It's okay to give up on systems - even healthy. It's never okay to give up on people - keep knocking! In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss the complexity of being persistent, why it matters, and how it plays out in difficult situations. Sadly, Kasey doesn't have an acronym. What Persistence Looks Like: - Be visible and available - Be friendly - it can't always feel like you nee...
Ep 32: Educational Leadershi* : It's messy, and fully worth it. 04.06.2023 58:59
*Warning, there are curse words that are unbleeped in this episode Remove ants and bees from the planet and the whole system will collapse. Remove humans and the world improves. Why is that? And how does it relate to leadership? In this episode, Brian and Kasey work through the unique difficulties of educational leadershi* and why - at times - it is the most difficult form of leadership. From frus...
Ep 31: Education is a Wicked Problem, which means it is impossible to solve. We tried anyway. 28.05.2023 42:25
In 1973, design theorists Horst Rittel and Melvin Webber introduced the term "wicked problem" in order to draw attention to the complexities and challenges of addressing planning and social policy problems. Education is such a problem. In this episode, Brian and Kasey work through the complexities of education as a Wicked Problem. They provide potential solutions for both teachers and sc...
Ep. 30: Bridging the Recognition Gap and Strengthening Your School Culture 21.05.2023 49:15
"More than 80 percent of supervisors claim they frequently express appreciation to their subordinates," The Power of Moments claims, "while less than 20 percent of the employees report that their supervisors express appreciation more than occasionally. Call it the recognition gap." In this episode, Brian and Kasey discover WHY this gap exists and wrestle through ways in which l...
Ep. 29: Finish Strong! Be Mr. May. 14.05.2023 51:37
Reggie Jackson was nicknamed "Mr. October" because of his clutch hitting in the postseason. He finished the year strong! And so should we. In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss ways teachers and administrators can finish the year with clarity and purpose. From roundtable discussions, award ceremonies, and renewing educational vows, how we end the year not only impacts how we remember...
Ep. 28: "What about the boring kids?" 07.05.2023 57:55
Does education have a problem with ignoring the "boring child?" And is being "boring" even bad - as a student or as a teacher? In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss the idea of education focusing too much on the fringe, why it's important to "grow the boring group," and why we should work hard to always separate the person from the idea. Solutions: - Autonomy W...
Ep. 27: Ted Lasso is flawed. And that's why we love him! And it's why we can learn from him. 30.04.2023 46:12
Even if you've never seen the show, Ted Lasso, this episode is still relatable to anyone interested in leadership or building culture in the workplace. Brian and Kasey both love Ted Lasso, but not because he is perfect. In fact, he is far from it! In this episode, Brian and Kasey acknowledge the faults and weaknesses of Ted, draw out their impacts on building culture, and highlight his many gi...
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