Schurtz&Ties
Schurtz and Ties: A podcast about education and culture
Inspired by the classroom, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller wrestle with how to become better teachers, leaders, and people. Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivePD.com and is a proud member of the TeachBetter Podcast Network. You can find out more about Brian and Kasey, discover resources, and enjoy more content on their website, SchurtzandTies.com.
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Jun 21, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 142: Why Are We Building a Bike Shed? with Mr. Rupp 21.06.2026 49:47
In Episode 142, Kasey and Brian sit down with Mr. Rupp, a high school English teacher and creator known for his sharp, funny, and thoughtful videos about rhetoric, fallacies, and how we think. The conversation moves from logical fallacies to grading, leadership, parent communication, and the complicated realities of teaching. Mr. Rupp breaks down ideas like the bike shed effect , the Nirvana falla...
Episode 141: Hunting in a Farmer’s World with John Dini 31.05.2026 46:54
In Episode 141, Kasey and Brian sit down with John Dini, author of Hunting in a Farmer’s World , for a conversation about entrepreneurs, systems, leadership, education, and the students who do not always fit neatly into the routines of school. Together, they explore the difference between “hunters” and “farmers,” what happens when visionary people are placed inside highly managed systems, and how...
🎙️ Episode 140: Casey Watts on Clarity, Complexity, and the Work That Actually Moves Us Forward 26.05.2026 25:26
Why do smart leaders make things more complicated than they need to be? In Episode 140, Kasey and Brian sit down with Casey Watts , author of The Craft of Clarity , for a conversation about leadership, initiative fatigue, and the kind of clarity that goes beyond simply communicating more. Casey reminds us that hard work cannot overcome a lack of clarity. Sometimes the work that creates the most cl...
Episode 139: Celebrity Principal or Real Principal with Jedd Hefer 10.05.2026 44:50
What happens when educational leadership starts looking more like social media performance than authentic service? In this episode of the Schurtz & Ties podcast, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller are joined once again by educator and consultant Jed Hafer for a candid, funny, and deeply honest conversation about the rise of the “celebrity principal.” Together, they wrestle with an important que...
Episode 138: Cordelia Fine on Gender, Schools, and the Stories We Tell About Boys and Girls 01.05.2026 43:09
Psychologist, researcher, and author known for her work on gender, social norms, and the myths that shape how we understand boys, girls, men, and women. In this conversation, Cordelia Fine joins Schurtz & Ties for a careful discussion about gender in schools, the assumptions educators make about boys and girls, and why treating students as individuals matters more than leaning on stereotypes....
Episode 137: Alfie Kohn on Compliance, Control, and What Schools Reward 07.04.2026 39:16
Show Notes Educator, author, and speaker known for challenging traditional thinking about motivation, rewards, punishment, homework, grading, and the role of power in schools. In this conversation, Alfie Kohn pushes on some of education’s most familiar assumptions: why control often replaces trust, how compliance can diminish curiosity, why democratic classrooms matter, and what it means for educa...
Episode 136: Why Humans Took 300,000 Years to Invent the Toilet with Adam Mastroianni 30.03.2026 53:41
In this episode, we sit down with psychologist and writer Adam Mastroianni to explore why so much of what feels obviously true about people often turns out to be wrong. We talk about why people across generations believe society is in moral decline, even when evidence suggests otherwise, why schools often rely on interventions that sound right but fail in practice, and how human beings are wired t...
Schurtz & Ties Presents: Behavioral Leadership with Tony DeRose | Guest Appearance on Collab Lab Live 18.03.2026 37:46
What happens when behavioral leadership is not treated as a program, but as part of a school’s culture? In this special Schurtz & Ties Presents conversation, Kasey Schurtz joins Tony DeRose on Collab Lab Live for a deep discussion about what behavioral leadership looks like inside a junior high school, why secondary educators sometimes hesitate to embrace it, and why simple practices like noti...
Episode 135: The Literacy Knowledge Teachers Need with Mary Jo Fresch 09.03.2026 55:05
In Episode 140 of Schurtz & Ties , we welcome back literacy expert Mary Jo Fresch to talk about what teachers really need to understand about reading, vocabulary, and language. Mary Jo has spent decades helping educators make sense of the English language and build the background knowledge needed to confidently teach literacy. In this conversation, we explore the realities of the Science of Re...
Episode 134: The Wisdom of Being Unsure with Maggie Jackson 01.03.2026 55:21
What if uncertainty isn’t weakness—but the doorway to deeper thinking? In this episode of Schurtz & Ties , we sit down with journalist and author Maggie Jackson, whose books Uncertain: The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure and Distracted: Reclaiming Our Focus in a World of Lost Attention challenge some of our deepest assumptions about attention, expertise, and learning. Schools often reward sp...
Episode 133 (Part 1): Teaching Through Fear — Inside a School During a Political Firestorm 22.02.2026 43:53
Teachers carry more than lesson plans. They carry fear that isn’t theirs. They carry responsibility no one trained them for. They carry the weight of holding stability when everything else feels uncertain. In this first episode of a two-part series on the unseen burdens teachers carry, we speak with Minnesota educator and Teacher of the Year finalist Sean Padden about what happens when national po...
Episode 133 (Part 2): The Fear Teachers Carry — When One Decision Can End a Career 22.02.2026 32:55
Teachers carry more than lesson plans. They carry the knowledge that one moment—one decision, one sentence, one misunderstood action—can change everything. They carry the quiet awareness that the work they love can also make them vulnerable. In Part 2 of this special two-episode series on the unseen burdens teachers carry, we speak with educator and former principal Toby Price, whose career was ab...
Episode 132: Brain Myths, Learning Science, and What Teachers Actually Need to Know — with Tracey Tokuhama-Espinosa 15.02.2026 1:04:29
In Episode 132, we are joined by Tracey Tokuhama-Espinosa , an internationally recognized researcher and author whose work sits at the intersection of mind, brain, and education science . This conversation explores what neuroscience actually tells us about learning — and just as importantly, what it doesn’t. We dig into how research is often misapplied in classrooms, how teacher actions shape lear...
Episode 131: No-Nonsense Brewing No-Nonsense Education 09.02.2026 52:20
A true barstool conversation with brewer Jeremiah Johnson In this episode, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller step outside the education silo and sit down with Jeremiah Johnson , founder and owner of Jeremiah Johnson Brewing Company. What starts as a light “barstool episode” quickly turns into a deeply relevant conversation about leadership, clarity, iteration, trust, and what it actually takes to...
Episode 130: Choice, Structure, and the Cost of Getting Education Wrong with Barry Schwartz 01.02.2026 51:49
🎙️ Episode 130: Barry Schwartz Choice, Structure, and the Cost of Getting Education Wrong In Episode 130 of Schurtz & Ties , we are joined by Barry Schwartz , renowned psychologist and author whose work has shaped how we think about motivation, choice, and meaning for decades. This conversation moves well beyond soundbites. We dig into why incentives often undermine learning, how too much choi...
Schurtz Shorts: What’s Our Guiding Light? 28.01.2026 25:02
Schurtz Short: What’s Our Guiding Light? In this Schurtz Short, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller wrestle with a deceptively simple question schools often rush past: What is our guiding light when we make decisions? As schools begin planning for the next year—staffing, policies, handbooks—this short conversation pushes beyond slogans and into something more concrete. If intellectual engagement is...
Episode 129: When Inclusion Stops Working — A Conversation with Dr. Douglas Fuchs 25.01.2026 39:29
🎙️ Schurtz & Ties Dr. Douglas Fuchs on Inclusion, IDEA, and the Limits of the General Classroom In this episode of Schurtz & Ties , Kasey Schurtz sits down with Dr. Douglas Fuchs , one of the most influential scholars in special education, to explore one of the most pressing and emotionally charged questions in schools today: When is inclusion truly least restrictive—and when does it stop...
Episode 128: Feed the Cats: Coaching Classrooms, Competition, and Joy with Tony Holler 18.01.2026 50:43
What if the key to better classrooms isn’t more compliance—but more fire ? In this episode of Schurtz & Ties , Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller sit down with Coach Tony Holler —creator of the Feed the Cats philosophy, longtime chemistry teacher, and nationally recognized coach—to explore what schools can learn from athletics, competition, and joy. Tony brings decades of experience from both t...
Episode 127: Anxious Kids, Anxious Adults: Communication, Accountability, and the Work Beneath Behavior with Peck 11.01.2026 51:26
In this episode of Schurtz & Ties , Kasey Schurtz and Brian Miller welcome back therapist, former educator, and author Charle Peck, LCSW, M.Ed. for a candid conversation about student anxiety, adult stress, and the communication breakdowns happening in schools right now. Together, they unpack why anxiety is genuinely increasing—not just being labeled more often—how social media, rapid societal...
Episode 126: Brain Science, Trauma, and Rethinking School Behavior with Dr. Katie Lohmiller and Halley Gruber 05.01.2026 53:32
In this conversation, Kasey and Brian sit down with Dr. Katie Lohmiller and Halley Gruber, co-founders of the Educational Access Group, to explore what it really means to build trauma-responsive, brain-based schools. They unpack how stress and adversity shape student behavior, why many traditional discipline systems miss the mark. Grounded in the work of Dr. Bruce D. Perry, the discussion highligh...
Episode 125: Clear Expectations, Reflective Questions, and Raising Good Humans. A conversation with Pete Hall 27.12.2025 58:21
Summary In this conversation, Pete Hall discusses the importance of leadership in education, emphasizing the need for courage to both lead and be led. He shares insights on engaging with resistant individuals, the significance of reflective questioning, and the challenges of addressing behavioral issues in schools. The discussion also touches on the balance between systems and people, drawing para...
Schurtz Shorts: Christmas Special 24.12.2025 26:11
n this Christmas Special episode of Schurtz and Ties, hosts Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller engage in a lively discussion with their friends and fellow educators, Matt and Eric. They reflect on their shared experiences in education, the importance of community, and the impact of having supportive colleagues. The conversation touches on the challenges and joys of teaching, the significance of mai...
Ep. 124: Beyond Punishment: The Case for Accountability 17.12.2025 53:53
American educators are in urgent need of meaningful behavioral support. Too often, punishment and consequences are conflated, while accountability gets lost in the noise. In this episode, Brian and Kasey unpack what accountability really means: doing what is reasonably expected and ensuring behaviors and expectations are met. They explore how true accountability places responsibility on both stude...
Schurtz Shorts: The Balance Between Punishment and Accountability 14.12.2025 19:10
In this Schurtz Short, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller unpack the difference between accountability, punishment, and consequences, and why conflating them creates confusion for both students and staff. They explore how clarity, consistency, and patience build a culture where accountability supports learning instead of shutting it down. The conversation highlights the importance of modeling expec...
Ep. 123: Beyond the Gap: Grade-Level Access, Scaffolding, and What Today’s Learners Need, with John Almarode 10.12.2025 52:46
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. John Almarode , an internationally recognized expert in student engagement, visible learning, and the science of how the brain learns best. With years of research, countless publications, and extensive work alongside districts across the globe, John brings a grounded, evidence-based perspective to the challenges schools are facing today. Few people are more qu...
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