Schurtz&Ties

Schurtz and Ties: A podcast about education and culture

Inspired by the classroom, Kasey Schurtz and Brian T. Miller wrestle with how to become better teachers, leaders, and people. Schurtz and Ties is sponsored by PeerDrivePD.com and is a proud member of the TeachBetter Podcast Network. You can find out more about Brian and Kasey, discover resources, and enjoy more content on their website, SchurtzandTies.com.

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www.schurtzandties.com

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Jun 21, 2026

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Episodes

Ep. 100: The boxes we carry 13.03.2025

We've been together now for just under three years, and we are excited to celebrate this milestone with you! In this episode, Brian and Kasey spend a short time celebrating the moment but then spend the hour chatting about teachers, teacher struggles, and the well-being of educators. Throughout our educational career, we will carry three boxes, in and out of our schools and classrooms: Box 1:...

Ep. 99: Design Thinking and "Feeling the toe pinch" with Julie Schell 07.03.2025

Get your mind and pen ready! In this episode, Julie Schell takes us on a journey full of depth, purpose, and insight—walking us through how we think, encouraging us to feel the pinch of empathy, and clarifying the powers of purposeful AI use. Julie Schell is the Assistant Vice Provost of Academic Technology, Director of the Office of Academic Technology, Executive Director for Instructional Contin...

Ep. 98: Teachers Deserve It, with Rae Hughart. 25.02.2025

Educators are burning out. Quickly. But we don't have to! Nor do we have to overhaul our entire teaching practice. In fact, with a few minor changes, we can thrive! And so can our students. In this episode, Rae Hughart pulls back the curtain a bit, revealing a few simple truths about why teachers are struggling and, more importantly, what they can do about it. Rae Hughart is the   CEO and Founder...

Ep. 97: Ideas and Quotes worth (re)Considering 20.02.2025

Did Maslow get it wrong? Does writing poetry make us brave? Are we needlessly nailing ourselves to the cross? Maybe. In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss educational phrases and mindsets, work through a few powerful quotes, and discuss if Maslow should consider giving up the title of GOAT. If you have any that you'd like us to (re)consider, let us know! Ideas and Quotes worth (re)Consideri...

Ep. 96: What we do when the lights go out, with Chris Gonsalvez 13.02.2025

We don't have to travel far to find someone who is struggling. Be it a student, fellow teacher, neighbor, or friend, at some point, in some way, everyone will be asked to endure hard times. Often, we try and do it alone. In this episode, Kasey and Brian chat with Chris Gonsalvez - a teacher, administrator, and PD leader who is passionate about working with schools to create cultures where 100%...

Ep. 95: Range of Knowledge and solving Impossible Problems 04.02.2025

"No savant has ever changed the world," David Epstein writes in Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World. Generalists, however, have. And do. Yet, in our classrooms and schools - in our quest to raise children as best we can - we strive for greatness, hustle towards the 10,000 hours, and applaud those who reach the podium. We celebrate the savant and overlook the jack who ha...

Ep. 94: We're in the dark ages of behavior management. Scott Ervin brings the light. 27.01.2025

Scott Irvin is widely known as The Kid Whisperer, He is also the author of the Classroom Behavior Manual⁠ and strongly believes we are in the dark ages of behavior management. Fortunately, he has a plan. - Use your Argument Shield. - Make an ESPN Greeting (Eye Contact, Smile, Physical contact, call them by Name) habit. - Establish your role as the Friendly Loving Alpha. - Calmly hold kids accounta...

Ep. 93: The Truth About Reading. An honest conversation. 20.12.2024

The Truth About Reading is an "eye-opening documentary film from Emmy-winning director Nick Nanton" that attempts to reveal the truth about reading and the failure of public schools to teach it. In this episode, Brian and Kasey ask the two stars of the film, David Chalk and John Corcoran share their story, explain the journey of The Truth About Reading, and seek a solution for struggling parents a...

Ep 92: Smart Thinking, with Dr. Art Markman 12.12.2024

Are our habits smart? Are they truly helpful? Are we acquiring high-quality knowledge or simple knowledge? And how do we know? Then, and most importantly, are we able to use it? The answers may not be as easy as we think. In this episode, Brian and Kasey chat with Dr. Markman and discuss his new book, Smart Thinking: Three Essential Keys to Solve Problems, Innovate, and Get Things Done.⁠ Smart Thi...

Ep. 91: A Threat to the Model, with John Hattie 03.12.2024

Few people have made a dent in the academic universe like John Hattie. In our brief conversation, it is easy to see why. In this episode, Kasey and Brian chat with John Hattie about sports, Visible Learning , what it means to be a threat to the academic model, and much much more. - Schools have data but struggle to see it. - Educators give feedback, but is it received, heard, and actionable? - Are...

Ep 90: Overcoming Education: A conversation with Dr. Brad Gustafson 29.11.2024

Dr. Brad Gustafson is a celebrated and award winning elementary principal, speaker, and author. He recently published his latest work, Overcoming Education: Complex Challenges, Difficult People, and the Art of Making a Difference. In this episode, Kasey and Brian walk with Brad through the complex challenges of education through the lens of the question, "Who do I want to be?" Episodes Referenced:...

Ep. 89: Beware the wolves! A conversation with Amy Berry's Continuum of Engagement 20.11.2024

Entertainment and manipulation, although low-hanging fruit that can easily change behaviors, are not true engagement. They're wolves. In this episode, using Amy Berry's Continuum of Engagement , Kasey and Brian work through the disguises of engagement, discuss their pros and cons to learning, and offer tangible solutions for educators to lead students into higher levels of engagement. Continuum of...

Ep. 88: Ask questions. Listen well. Be interested. A conversation about Personal Engagement. 08.11.2024

Before learners learn, they need to feel safe and sound. Before teachers teach, they need create a space that IS safe and sound. And we do so by building personal connections. - Enter with empathy. Say, "This isn't going to be easy, but we can get through this together." - Avoid sarcasm. It's destructive and unkind, disguised with a smile. - Respect the imbalance of power. You are the teacher. - S...

Ep. 87: Forget the students (not really), its all about the teachers! (no, really). 01.11.2024

Being a teacher is unique. The struggles are real and the weight of responsibility overwhelming. Especially when tasked with doing "whatever it takes" for our students and schools. In this episode, Brian and Kasey discuss the unintentional manipulation of such phrases, play out their implications, and provide alternative perspectives that can provide educators a more healthy balance of life, work,...

Ep. 86: "Who before the do." Intellectual Engagement with John Almarode 24.10.2024

Grab your notes, sharpen you pen, and buckle up! In this episode, we take off quick and cover a TON of beautiful ground. John Almarode is an associate professor of education and the Executive Director of Teaching and Learning in the College of Education at James Madison University, and in this episode, he brings the intellectual boom. In just over an hour, Mr Almarode walks us through the land of...

Ep. 85: Be cautious, be free, be curious. The importance of Cultural Engagement 17.10.2024

Cultural Engagement is essential to creating a safe and sound environment, and a safe and sound environment is essential to learning. In this episode, Kasey and Brian provide strategies for teachers and educational leaders that encourage students to bring in their culture, engage with the culture, and create a holistically safe, secure, and diversly strong culture. Episodes Referenced: - Ep. 73: L...

Ep 84: "Put me on hold, please" and the smell of milk: A Barstool Episode 11.10.2024

From deschooling to the average age shifting to 32 and everywhere in-between. In this episode, Brian and Kasey take a break from the deep-dive of engagement and check in, share their current thoughts and convictions, and wrestle through - as always - how we can best support teachers, encourage students, and improve education. - Opus Number 1: You can download the song or listen to the This America...

Ep. 83: "Its all about security." Emotional Engagement with Charle Peck 03.10.2024

"How can I lead you through this?" This week, we welcome back school mental health expert Charle Peck to discuss Emotional Engagement and how we can best serve, protect, and teach our students in an emotionally secure environment. In this episode, we wrestle through a variety of questions such as, "How do we create an emotionally secure space?" and "What are some strategies teachers can use to hel...

Ep. 82: Social Engagement: A reflection of who We are and want to be. 24.09.2024

Social Media is NOT true engagement. It has skewed our perception of connection and continually ignores the rules of social engagement. It has not only changed us all, it has directly impacted our schools and classrooms. In this episode, Kasey and Brian break down Social Engagement - what it is and what it isn't - and provide tangible ways educators can instantly and intentionally provide a sp...

Ep. 81: "Stay a teacher." Wisdom on Behavioral Engagement with Jedd Hafer 20.09.2024

Understanding and guiding student behavior is a crucial component to any classroom. Unfortunately, our traditional discipline and behavior management strategies are also primarily based on reaction rather than proactive and purposeful teaching . In this episode, Brian and Kasey invite Jedd Hafer on the show to discuss Behavioral Engagement and why we need to stop drilling holes in our students&#39...

Ep. 80: Physical Engagement 08.09.2024

Welcome to the 80s!!! It's hard to believe we've made it this far, but here we are, and what an episode to usher us in! In this episode, Brian and Kasey define "Physical Engagement," and discuss the importance of classroom And school environment. Although we disagree, the following are temporary definitions. Let us know what you think in the survey! Physical Environment: It is the built and natura...

Ep 79: The Red Threads of Engagement 05.09.2024

In a variety of European countries, the expression “red thread” refers to the core idea or theme of something. It is as the “throughline” that allows everything else to make sense. In this episode, Kasey and Brian discuss some "red threads" that weave through all types of engagement and hold them together - that allow them to make sense. The "6+1 Types of Engagement" come from...

Ep. 78: Lessons from the summer, and more! 27.08.2024

We are back for season three! And we are thrilled to deep dive into new and purposeful topics. But for now, a summer recap of lessons learned and a conversation of convictions for the coming year, such as: - Have a plan. Be intentional - Shed the need to be perfect ( Hi Ren ) - Empower the individual; increase responsibility - Be reliable. Just like Atticus - Be the best. Just like Shohai Ohtani -...

Ep. 77: Supporting teachers, Reaching students. A conversation with Jim Knight 04.07.2024

Dr. Jim Knight, is the "Founder and Senior Partner of Instructional Coaching Group (ICG)" and "a research associate at the University of Kansas Center for Research on Learning. He has spent more than two decades studying professional learning and instructional coaching" ( via ). And in this episode, Kasey has the opportunity to sit down and chat with the mind who created the po...

Ep. 76: Teacher perceptions vs Principal perceptions: A conversation about educator wellbeing, with Dr. Humphrys and Dr Syson 14.06.2024

What truly makes a difference in a school? Is it the little trinkets in the staff lounge? The thank you notes throughout the year? What? And more importantly, how do we know? In this episode, Brian and Kasey have the opportunity to speak with Dr. Sheri Humphrys and Dr. Kate Syson and talk about practical practices that actually impact school culture and teacher wellbeing. As Kasey honestly proclai...

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