Olya Grovel

Scale Room with Olya Grovel

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What if you could sit in on a high-stakes scaling consultation — for free? Every week on The Scale Room, a product founder brings a live challenge to Olya Grovel (ex-PayPal, angel investor, SLS Labs founder) & they work through it together on the mic. No preparation. No hindsight polish. You hear the real-time diagnosis: what's actually broken, what to fix first, and why the obvious answer is usually wrong. It's pattern recognition you can steal, decision-making you can study, and the closest thing to having a Scale SWAT operator in your corner. For founders scaling past their first million $.

Author

Olya Grovel

Category

Business

Podcast website

olyagrovel.com

Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

[S4] #47 Closing 1 in 3 Calls — and Still Starving at Top of Funnel with Bailey Darling 10.07.2026

Bailey Darling built GIA to be the ultimate Go-To-Market co-pilot for consultancies and boutique agencies, boasting an incredible 1-in-3 closing rate once an ideal prospect gets on a sales call. The conversion strategy works. So why does Olya tell him his top-of-funnel is hitting a ceiling? In this live Scale Room session , she breaks down why trying to sell a complex, multi-feature platform upfro...

[S4] #46 The Influencer Growth Trap: Why Your Best Channel Dies in 12 Months with Adrian Søbyskogen 27.06.2026

Adrian runs Akka , a platform opening access to private market investing through influencer-led distribution. The strategy works. So why does Olya tell him it's a trap? In this live Scale Room session, she breaks down why creator marketing isn't a sustainable acquisition channel—it's a launch event with a built-in lifespan. From there, the discussion dives into one of the hardest probl...

[S4] #45 He Built a €0-Marketing Brand. The Problem Is Getting People to Return with Hector Hughes 18.06.2026

Hector Hughes thought he was building his dream career. Instead, he found himself overwhelmed, disconnected, and increasingly dissatisfied with the life he had created. Everything changed after a 10-day silent retreat in the Himalayas where his phone was taken away and he spent ten days alone with his thoughts. One week later, he quit his job. Soon after, he launched Unplugged, a startup helping p...

[S4] #44 Your SaaS Is Shrinking and You're Avoiding the Money with Foti Panagiotakopoulos 28.04.2026

The Scale Room Ep. 2 — Foti Panagiotakopoulos on AI, Mentorship, Burnout & Building Human-Centered Companies In this deeply personal and unexpectedly emotional episode of The Scale Room , Olya sits down with Foti Panagiotakopoulos, founder of GrowthMentor for a raw conversation about entrepreneurship, AI disruption, mentorship, founder psychology, burnout, and the human need for connection. Wh...

[S4] #43 Your Competitors Own ChatGPT Search. Now What? with Frank Sondors 27.03.2026

Frank Sondors scaled Salesforge to €3M ARR in year one and now he's making a bet most founders haven't even considered: generative engine optimization. He comes to The Scale Room with a question that's about to matter for every B2B company — how do you win when your buyers stop Googling and start asking ChatGPT instead? Olya digs into his GEO playbook, his Wikipedia hack, why mentions are the new...

[S3] #42 Micro-Decisions That Shape Your Life: Mindset, Money & Leadership - with Maria Reid 30.01.2026

Most decisions that change our lives don’t look dramatic from the outside. They happen quietly in our thoughts, our beliefs, and the stories we tell ourselves. In this episode of Decision Factory , Maria shares the most pivotal decision she ever made and it had nothing to do with her career, business, or external success. It was the moment she chose to change her perspective. We talk about: Feelin...

[S3] #41 He Turned Down a $30M Valuation and Built a Profitable Startup Anyway - with Adam Fard 27.01.2026

Everyone tells founders the same story: Raise money. Move fast. Figure it out later. Adam Fard chose a different path. In this episode of Decision Factory , Olya Grovel sits down with Adam Fard , founder of UX Pilot , to unpack why he turned down a VC term sheet at a $30M valuation and how bootstrapping gave him something far more valuable than capital: clarity and control . Adam shares how UX Pil...

[S3] #40 Why AI Makes Smart People Worse at Decision-Making (And How to Think Clearly Again) - with Dan Sanchez 23.01.2026

We don’t have an AI problem. We have a decision-making problem . In this episode of Decision Factory , Olya sits down with AI-driven marketer and podcaster Danchez to unpack what it actually takes to think clearly in a world flooded with tools, trends, and “one-click solutions.” Dan shares how he filters signal from noise when new AI products drop daily, why most tools are just well-disguised proc...

[S3] #39 The Founder Work Myth Nobody Wants to Question - with Kiran Mehta 16.01.2026

We’ve been sold a lie about what it takes to build something meaningful. That working harder is always the answer. That extreme hustle is a badge of honor. That betting the house is courage — not laziness. In this episode, former VC turned operator Kiran Mehta dismantles some of the most dangerous myths in startup culture and replaces them with something far more uncomfortable: clear thinking . We...

[S3] # 38 How Losing Control Made Me a Better Leader - with Gabs Hayes 13.01.2026

After losing her son, nearly losing her daughter, and hitting rock bottom with her mental health, Gabs Hayes decided to stop chasing “success” and start chasing peace. In this powerful conversation, host Olya Grovel sits down with Gabs — an entrepreneurial mom, business strategist, and self-proclaimed “stay-at-home mom who runs a business” — to unpack what it really means to build a life that feel...

[S3] #37 Stop Chasing Followers, Start Building Offers - with with Jon Brosio 19.11.2025

Most founders and creators are chasing the wrong metric. They’re optimizing for followers, impressions, and vanity engagement — then wondering why they can’t convert attention into actual revenue. In this episode of Decision Factory , Jon Brosio breaks down the mindset shift that took him from restaurant shifts and dead-end freelance work to running a multi-six-figure solo business. The turning po...

[S3] # 36 From Developer to CEO: Why You Need To Fire Yourself to Grow - with Milan Savov 12.11.2025

What does it actually take to scale a service business without burning out or micromanaging every task? In this episode of Decision Factory , Olya sits down with Milan Savov , founder of SmartClick , to unpack how he went from solo developer to CEO — and built an SEO agency that thrives on systems, not hustle. Milan breaks down what most founders get wrong about SEO, how to delegate without losing...

[S3] #35 Why 90% of Podcasts Fail — and How to Build One That Scales — with Ana Xavier 10.11.2025

Everyone says starting a podcast is easy. They’re right — it’s easy to start . It’s brutally hard to sustain . In this episode, Ana Xavier , founder of The Podcast Space , breaks down what it actually takes to build a show that grows your brand and your business. From why most creators quit before episode 50, to how founders can turn a podcast into a lead engine, Ana shares hard-earned lessons on...

My Journey from Business Savages to Decision Factory 17.10.2025

After a three-month pause, host Olya Grovel returns with a raw five-minute reflection on how the show evolved—from Business Savages , a pilot celebrating the wild side of entrepreneurship, to Decision Factory , a space for decoding how high-stakes decisions really get made. In this short solo episode, Olya opens up about: Hitting her own “ugly phase” and what it taught her about direction and burn...

#34 Why Startups Burn Through CMOs So Fast 30.05.2025

Why are marketers always the first to go in a startup shakeup? In this raw and revealing conversation, marketing advisor Oren Greenberg breaks down the harsh realities behind why growth leaders get scapegoated—and what’s actually broken under the hood of most early-stage companies. With 20+ years in digital marketing and experience advising both scale-ups and global brands like Canon and BT, Oren...

#33 0 to $5M ARR: The GTM Playbook Behind HeyReach 16.05.2025

What does it really take to scale a B2B SaaS startup from 0 to $5M ARR—and keep your team aligned, your users happy, and your ego in check? In this episode of The Ugly Phase, I sit down with Vuk, CMO of HeyReach, to unpack the tactical and leadership decisions that drove HeyReach’s breakout LinkedIn-led growth. From chaotic early-stage pivots to building a decentralized marketing org, Vuk shares a...

#32 Top UK LinkedIn Creator On What Most Founders Get Wrong About It 07.05.2025

What if your next business breakthrough isn’t another funnel, ad, or hustle tactic—but showing up more clearly on LinkedIn? In this episode, I sit down with Fatima Khan—LinkedIn coach and top UK creator—to break down the truth behind personal branding, visibility, and growth on LinkedIn. From launching with zero audience to ranking in the top 5 UK creators, Fatima shares how she scaled her brand (...

#31 Why Psychological Safety Is Your Secret to Surviving Startup Chaos — with Cynthia de Jager 25.04.2025

If your startup feels stuck, chaotic, or like it's silently crumbling from within, the solution might not be another strategy session—it might be psychological safety. In this episode of The Ugly Phase , I’m joined by Cynthia de Jager, expert in psychological safety and intercultural collaboration, to unpack the invisible forces quietly shaping (or breaking) your team’s culture, productivity,...

#30 Forget Hacks: Why You Need to Think for Yourself to Win with Louis Grenier 11.04.2025

If you’re feeling burned out by performative marketing, endless “hacks,” and business advice that sounds more like gaslighting than guidance — you’re not alone. And you’re not broken. You’re just tired of bullshit. In this episode of The Ugly Phase, Olya Grovel sits down with Louis Grenier — contrarian marketer, founder of Stand the F*ck Out, and author of the same brutally honest book — to talk a...

#29 Startups Aren’t for Everyone—And That’s OK: Building Culture Without Compromise with Nader Safinya 03.04.2025

If you’ve ever felt like you’re trying to build a team or culture that’s constantly letting you down—or if you’re a founder stuck hiring people who "look good on paper" but crumble under pressure—this episode is for you. In this episode of The Ugly Phase, I sit down with Nader Safinya, founder of Blackribbit and expert in employer and customer brand alignment, to unpack one of the hardest truths a...

#28 Tired of Forcing It? Here’s What Happens When You Finally Lead Like Yourself with Elisa Canali 28.03.2025

If you’re burned out from trying to force your business to work—even when you're doing all the “right” things—this episode is your permission slip to stop pushing and start aligning. In this episode of The Ugly Phase , I sit down with Elisa Canali , a 7-figure entrepreneur, spiritual business coach, and human design expert, to talk about what really shifts when you stop building from pressure and...

#27 Building a Business Without Burning Out with Nicole Gueorguieva 21.03.2025

What if everything you’ve been told about success is actually holding you back? In this episode of The Ugly Phase , I sit down with Nicole Gueorguieva , a holistic well-being and productivity coach, to talk about breaking free from hustle culture , redefining success, and building a career that doesn’t come at the cost of your mental health. Nicole’s journey—from corporate climbing to startup burn...

#26 Reinventing Yourself After Rejection: How to Build a Freedom-Based Life with Jarrod Evanyshyn 07.03.2025

What if the career, routine, and comfort zone you thought defined you were actually holding you back? In this episode of The Ugly Phase (Business Savages), I sit down with Jarrod Evanyshyn, aka The Next Day Nomad, to discuss reinvention, resilience, and creating a freedom-based life. Jarrod walked away from the film industry, faced constant rejection, and realized he needed more control over his f...

#25 Why Confidence Isn’t About Fitting In—It’s About Owning Yourself with J2 20.02.2025

What happens when the career you thought defined you gets taken away? Do you shrink back—or do you reinvent yourself? In this episode of Business Savages, I sit down with J2—artist, speaker, coach, and videographer—who turned his biggest loss into his greatest opportunity. After getting fired from a job people would kill to have, J2 found himself at a crossroads. Instead of letting it break him, h...

#24 The Power of Being the Outsider: Thriving When You Don’t Fit In with Niamh Donnelly 11.02.2025

In this episode of Business Savages , I sit down with Niamh Donnelly, co-founder of Akara Robotics, to talk about her journey as a woman in mechanical engineering and robotics—two of the most male-dominated industries out there. From being one of only two women in her college class to pioneering robotic disinfection technology for hospitals, Niamh shares the challenges, wins, and lessons she’s lea...

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