Ben and Bon
Sacred Shenanigans
Two ministers discussing current events and topics.
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Ben and Bon
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Jul 2, 2026
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Episodes
July 1st - Al Mohler and the SBC return to slavery. 02.07.2026 1:02:00
In this free-wheeling uncut episode, Ben and Bon talk about the recent passing of Al Mohler's resolution to silence women in the SBC, the hypocrisy in the resolution, and what the future looks like for those with their necks under the boots of Mohler's ilk.
June 12th, 2026 - The Destruction of Health Care in America 12.06.2026 1:12:00
Ben and Bon discuss the state of health care in America, using rural problems in North Carolina as an example, and what the American Evangelicalism's professed ethos demands in light of the issue.
June 1st - Paul Presslar, Evangelicalisms next years, and the SBC with Robert Downen 03.06.2026 1:07:00
Ben and Bon talk with Texas Monthly journalist Robert Downen about his recent expose on Paul Presslar and the SBC, and talk about the culture of protection and the future of the American Evangelical church.
May 12th - Ellul, Propaganda, Mammon-shaped Evangelicalism, and funding Christian Nationalism. 14.05.2026 57:43
Ben and Bon talk Ellul, propaganda, how the Iran war is effecting people on the ground, the K shaped economy, why Kevin de Young went full Wilson, how pastors show their true colors, Mammon-shaped Evangelicalism, and the money that props up Christian Nationalism.
Being Saved from Other People, Instead of Our Sin. 15.04.2026 1:06:31
Ben and Bon talk Iran, Pro-War Christians, the coming economic damage, Trump's return to demonizing immigrants, the homogenization of the Evangelical Church, and what happens when the Gospel we preach doesn't focus on saving us from our sins ... but instead is about saving us from people we hate.
February 5th - "Toxic" Empathy vs Sacrificial Christian Praxis, Pastor Joe Rigney, and Meg Basham's history. 06.02.2026 2:37:00
In this double-length episode Bon and Ben interview Pastor Joe Rigney about "toxic" empathy. Afterwards, Ben and Bon hold a postmortem discussion on Rigney's words and discuss what can happen when we gate-keep sacrificial Christian love for others. Bonus: Bon and Ben take some time to discuss new revelations about Meg Basham.
January 12th - Authority 13.01.2026 1:18:46
Ben and Bon are joined by veteran and academic Jay Mallow to discuss democratic transactional authority.
Nov 18th - Epstein, Identity, Formation, and the Church 19.11.2025 1:00:42
Ben and Bon talk about Epstein and how deep the tendrils of evil go, along with why evil is often excused within the Church due to a lack of an identity centered on Christ, and they talk about how better formation can keep the Church/Believer from being complicit in evil.
October 30th - SNAP and Allie Beth Stuckey 30.10.2025 1:12:56
Bon and Ben talk about the war on the poor, Allie Stuckey's Islamophobia, the practice of Christian witness, and the best Presbyterian joke, ever.
October 18th - Josh Howerton and the redefinition the image of the Church and the Gospel. 19.10.2025 1:16:00
In this episode Bon and Ben talk about Josh Howerton's dive into critical theory, church growth, what the Gospel DOESN'T depend on, how "Biblical" can be a weapon, the national drop in church attendance. Plus, Ben offers his sincere Billy Graham impersonation, and shows off his Sociology and PoliSci skills.
October 9th - The Missionary Kids 13.10.2025 1:18:56
Bon and Ben talk again with historian Dr. Holly Fletcher about her just released book "The Missionary Kids" and discuss the cost of personal discipleship, what happens when discipleship costs something of others, and how to navigate the divide hurt can cause in families, countries, and congregations.
October 1st - The Myth of Christian Parenting 02.10.2025 1:35:00
Bon and Ben sit down with Marissa Burt to talk about her new book The Myth of Christian Parenting and how we often make false idols that we call the Gospel.
Sept 6th - Bonus Episode - The Local Church Cult 07.09.2025 1:29:00
Ben and Bon sit down with Sarah Stiltner to talk about her time in the Local Church movement/cult and discuss what a high-control structure looks like and what it does to those within it.
August 22 - Dobson's Death, Genocide, Trump eyes the Pearly-Gates, Shame Culture, and the "Good" Christian. 26.08.2025 1:24:00
In this episode, Bon and Ben talk Dobson's legacy, Gaza, Trump's afterlife, the "Good Christian," the value of a person, and Ben teaches us about shame culture.
August 7th - Dr. Beth Allison Barr on Becoming the Pastor's Wife. 10.08.2025 1:05:00
Ben and Bon sit down with Dr. Barr as she discusses her latest book "Becoming the Pastor's Wife" and how a specific role has been used to hold women back, and what we can do to change the role, free the bound, and make communities of faith better.
July 18th - Trump/Epstein, Ryan Walters, PepFar, Deportation, and the Paxton divorce. 21.07.2025 1:15:00
In this episode Ben and Bon talk the Trump/Epstein Pedophile Ring, Ryan Walters, the ending of PEPFAR, deporting non-criminals, and the Paxton divorce.
July 3rd - The Big Bad Bill and Alligator Alcatraz. 04.07.2025 1:23:23
In this episode, Bon and Ben talk about the Big Bad Bill, the newly built Alligator Alcatraz, and what we as believers can do to lessen the effects of both.
June 26th - Michael Tait, Evangelical causes, and how we can be examples of Christ. 28.06.2025 1:05:00
In this episode Bon and Ben talk about Bishop Pham and immigration courts, the exposure of Michael Tait and complicit ministers, the problem of Evangelical causes, and Ben gives us some great examples on how we can be practical emulators of Christ.
June 15th - Sean Feucht, Josh Howerton, Meg Basham and the culture of control and grift. 17.06.2025 1:04:54
In this episode, Bon is joined by guest host Johnna Harris of Bodies Behind the Bus, as Ben enjoys vacation! Johnna and Bon discuss the current culture of grift and the conspiracies of control within the Evangelical church. Johnna brings her unique voice and knowledge of the ecosystem and its abuses to the discussion.
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