CJ Gustafson
Run the Numbers
Run the Numbers is a business podcast about financial metrics and business models for CFOs, aspiring CFOs, finance leaders, and ambitious people operating tech startups. Hosted by CJ Gustafson, CFO and writer of Mostly Metrics, the show shares lessons, frameworks, and operator insights from the trenches as a tech exec. Think of it as a playbook for the things CJ wishes he knew earlier in his career, covering SaaS metrics, annual budgeting, forecasting, headcount, equity, dilution, fundraising, and the decisions that drive performance and growth.
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Episodes
Jersey Mike’s S-1 Breakdown: How a $4.2B Sandwich Machine Works 09.07.2026 28:26
On this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ breaks down Jersey Mike’s S-1 and the franchise machine behind more than $4 billion in sandwich sales. He explains how an asset-light royalty model works, why franchise economics can be so powerful, what Blackstone saw in the business, and what the filing reveals about growth, margins, and the real money behind the subs. — SPONSORS: RightRev is an automated r...
The CFO Who Was “Ill Equipped” to Save Lehman Brothers 06.07.2026 46:14
What actually prepares someone to become a CFO? CJ revisits Erin Callan’s short, brutal run as Lehman Brothers CFO and pulls lessons from past guests on operational reps, simple communication, fast-moving bad news, budget mistakes, and why great finance leaders can’t just report the numbers, they have to shape them. — SPONSORS: Anrok is the sales tax platform that watches your exposure everywhere,...
How Finance Teams Are Actually Using AI | Opendoor, Datadog, PwC 02.07.2026 39:37
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ goes live from Rillet Recon with Dana Decker (VP of Finance at Opendoor), AJ Ljubich (SVP, FP&A at Datadog), and Micah Richard (Principal, AI at PwC) to unpack how finance teams are actually using AI. — SPONSORS: Brex is an intelligent finance platform with AI-powered agents that capture expenses automatically, enforce policy before the spend happens, and...
Lime’s S-1 Breakdown: The $1.8B Scooter IPO 25.06.2026 43:17
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ breaks down Lime’s S-1 as the scooter company heads toward the public markets. He gets into the $1.8B valuation, Wayne Ting’s turnaround playbook, Lime’s unit economics, the post-Covid recovery, and the debt wall that may be forcing the IPO window open. — SPONSORS: SpendHound cuts your SaaS and AI spend by up to 30% using real pricing benchmarks across 10,000...
How Confluent’s CFO Runs Planning, Pricing, and Prioritization 22.06.2026 44:14
On this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Confluent CFO Rohan Sivaram to talk goal setting, prioritization, consumption-based pricing, hybrid zero-based budgeting, and the frameworks finance leaders use to scale companies. Rohan shares why he carries his 12-month goals with him, how he evaluates opportunities through TAM, technology, and team, and why usage-based pricing changes the en...
Salesforce Paid $2.1 Billion for His Company: Meet the CFO Who Made it Happen 18.06.2026 38:51
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Jake Kornreich, CFO of CoLab and former CFO of Own, live from the New York Stock Exchange. Jake breaks down the six-part framework behind Own’s $2.1B sale to Salesforce, why “control your destiny” matters, how CFOs should think about IPO readiness, board communication, share price theater, and why great finance leaders operate beyond the spread...
SoundCloud CFO Dan Bettes on Marketplace Liquidity, Music, and Forecasting 15.06.2026 40:47
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Dan Bettes, CFO of SoundCloud, at the New York Stock Exchange. Dan breaks down how SoundCloud operates as a two-sided music marketplace, how he thinks about liquidity between fans and creators, and why great finance leaders need to make forecasting feel owned by the business — SPONSORS: Aleph is a modern FP&A platform built for teams that w...
Bending Spoons S1: How Italy's Software Acquirer Built a $20B Empire From the Discount Rack 11.06.2026 35:55
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ breaks down Bending Spoons’ F-1 filing and the acquisition machine behind AOL, Evernote, Vimeo, Eventbrite, and more. He unpacks the company’s playbook: buy under-optimized digital businesses, transform operations, raise prices, reinvest earnings, and repeat — while asking the core question: how much was built, and how much was bought? — SPONSORS: RightRev is...
Vercel's CFO Marten Abrahamsen: Move Fast or Fall Behind 08.06.2026 53:42
CJ Gustafson sits down with Marten Abrahamsen, CFO of Vercel, at the NYSE to talk about running finance inside a hypergrowth AI company. They cover AI use cases in finance, rev rec, forecasting, KPI dashboards, PLG, consumption pricing, and Marten’s “speeding tickets vs. parking tickets” framework for moving fast without losing control. — SPONSORS: Brex is an intelligent finance platform with AI-p...
A CFO Explains Stock Exchanges 04.06.2026 37:18
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ breaks down how stock exchanges became the operating system of modern capitalism. From ship captains raising voyage money, to the Dutch East India Company’s first tradable shares, to coffee house traders, the Buttonwood Agreement, market crashes, Robinhood, and GameStop, this is the story of how markets turned ownership into something liquid, global, and very...
Zapier's CFO on Closing the Books in 5 Days, AI Hiring Bars, and M&A Discipline 01.06.2026 49:48
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Ryan Roccon, CFO of Zapier, to cover AI hiring standards, automating month-end close, measuring ROI on AI spend, and why determinism still beats agents most of the time. — SPONSORS: EY has been part of Silicon Valley since it was just a valley, helping the most successful names in tech go from startup to exit to megacap. With teams across strat...
Navan CFO Aurélien Nolf on Resource Allocation, IR, and AI in Finance 28.05.2026 49:47
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Aurélien Nolf, CFO of Navan, to unpack how to pre-align before budgeting, how to think about portfolio construction inside a company, when to fund or kill internal bets, how IR is becoming more connected to FP&A, and where AI actually works inside finance teams. — SPONSORS: Rillet is an AI-native ERP built for modern finance teams that want...
SpaceX Is Going Public: Here's Everything You Need to Know 25.05.2026 42:27
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ breaks down SpaceX’s S-1, unpacking what the filing reveals about Starlink, xAI, X, common control accounting, revenue, losses, CapEx, and Elon Musk’s Mars-linked compensation structure. — SPONSORS: RightRev is an automated revenue recognition platform built for teams that have outgrown spreadsheets and billing tool workarounds. It handles high-volume subscri...
5 Ways CFOs Can Build a Better Sales Engine with Paul Stansik 21.05.2026 42:41
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with ParkerGale Operating Partner Paul Stansik to break down five ways CFOs can help build a better sales engine: making the budget mean something, improving forecasting, sharpening metrics, getting involved in key RevOps moments, and building real trust with sales. — SPONSORS: Aleph is a modern FP&A platform built for teams that want more than...
Figure CFO Macrina Kgil on Blockchain Lending, Stablecoins, and IPOs 18.05.2026 52:49
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Figure Technologies CFO Macrina Kgil to break down how Figure’s business model works, why traditional lending remains so bloated, and how speed in origination and funding flows through financial performance. They also cover stablecoins, blockchain as invisible infrastructure, AI in accounting, and scaling finance with fewer than 35 people. — SP...
Cerebras IPO: S1 Breakdown - The Giant Chip, the OpenAI Deal, and the $24B Backlog 14.05.2026 46:40
Cerebras is going public with the largest commercial chip ever built, $510M in 2025 revenue, and a $24.6B backlog mostly tied to OpenAI. CJ breaks down the company’s wafer-scale AI bet, why inference changed the story, the strange customer-investor-lender relationships behind the IPO, and the big question: is Cerebras the next NVIDIA-style infrastructure winner, or a concentrated hardware company...
The Investor Behind Warby Parker, Harry’s, and the Psychology of Consumer Growth | David Bell 11.05.2026 1:00:56
David Bell, co-founder of Idea Farm Ventures and early investor behind Warby Parker, Harry’s, and Diapers.com, and CJ break down how consumer investing works. They cover why durable consumer companies require more than clean unit economics, how to apply SaaS-style thinking to businesses without contracts, and why the best opportunities often live in boring gray space. — SPONSORS: EY works with hig...
Inside Mostly Media: The Team Behind Run the Numbers 07.05.2026 53:10
CJ turns the mic on the people behind Mostly Media for a special behind-the-scenes episode of Run the Numbers. Michelle, Callie, Sarah, Matthew, Ben, and Steve share what it’s like building the company, scaling media, talent, sales, production, and operations, and dealing with CJ’s scooter lore, calendar quirks, and chaos along the way. — SPONSORS: Rillet is an AI-native ERP built for modern finan...
Diamonds, De Beers, and the Death of Artificial Scarcity | A CFO Explains Diamonds 04.05.2026 26:59
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ Gustafson breaks down the diamond industry as a business model: how De Beers controlled supply, engineered demand, and built one of the most powerful pricing machines in history. From the Central Selling Organization to “A Diamond Is Forever” to the rise of lab-grown diamonds, this episode unpacks monopolies, scarcity, pricing power, and what happens when tec...
The North Face Former CFO: How Finance Builds Iconic Brands 27.04.2026 51:20
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ Gustafson sits down with Angela Chen, former CFO of The North Face and Mars Veterinary Health, to unpack how finance leaders build and scale iconic consumer brands. Angela shares how to measure brand equity, why the CFO should act as an architect of growth, and how capital, talent, and strategy connect inside a scaling business. They also get into humanistic...
How Great Deals Are Found, Evaluated, and Won | PSG’s Chris Nesbitt 23.04.2026 54:34
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with PSG Managing Director Chris Nesbitt to unpack how great deals are actually found, how investment decisions are really made, and why narrative often matters more than most investors admit. They also dig into forecasting, boardroom authenticity, simple vs. complex models, and the roles of market, product, and leadership in driving outcomes. — SPO...
Why Health Tech Doesn’t Operate Like SaaS | Manu Diwakar, CFO of Virta Health 20.04.2026 54:17
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Manu Diwakar, CFO of Virta Health, to unpack why health tech breaks traditional SaaS thinking. They get into the realities of running a business where outcomes matter, half the company are medical professionals, and efficiency can’t come at the expense of care. It’s a conversation about sustainable scaling, smarter reinvestment, and building fo...
Inside Figma’s Financial Playbook with CFO Praveer Melwani 16.04.2026 46:29
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Praveer Melwani, CFO of Figma, to unpack the financial model behind one of tech’s most iconic product-led companies. They cover viral growth, forecasting without a traditional sales pipeline, AI credit pricing, margin tradeoffs, and the metric Praveer believes matters most in the long run: free cash flow per share. — SPONSORS: EY works with hig...
Wealthfront’s CFO on Automation, Compounding Growth, and Going Public 13.04.2026 53:42
In this episode of Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Wealthfront CFO Alan Imberman to unpack automation as a strategy, the compounding power of retention and trust, and how to balance elite profitability with continued investment. They also discuss why Wealthfront went public earlier than many peers and what’s really happening in fintech right now. — SPONSORS: Rillet is an AI-native ERP built for...
How Strategic CFOs Get It Wrong 09.04.2026 52:45
On this week’s Run the Numbers, CJ sits down with Steve Isom of Bloomerang to break down what a “strategic CFO” really is. They cover the shift from reporting to operating, why customer orgs drive SaaS value, and how AI is reshaping the finance role. — SPONSORS: RightRev is an automated revenue recognition platform built for teams that have outgrown spreadsheets and billing tool workarounds. It h...
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